Inserting Special Characters

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Bill

Is it possible to insert a special character such as the Latin Small
Letter N with Tilde except with a BAR over the letter, like a Macron,
instead of the Tilde? If so, how? Maybe by overstriking?

Tried using insert a Field, then to Equations & Formulas, then EQ,
then Options, then putting in a \s with and underscore (Times Roman
font) to be printed as a superscript WITHIN the \O overstrike function
but the resulting bar is to close to the character and I cannot find a
better symbol in the default installed fonts. Using Word X Service
Release 1 with OS 10.2.8 and the fonts that came with Word X.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Bill
 
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JE McGimpsey

Is it possible to insert a special character such as the Latin Small
Letter N with Tilde except with a BAR over the letter, like a Macron,
instead of the Tilde? If so, how? Maybe by overstriking?

Tried using insert a Field, then to Equations & Formulas, then EQ,
then Options, then putting in a \s with and underscore (Times Roman
font) to be printed as a superscript WITHIN the \O overstrike function
but the resulting bar is to close to the character and I cannot find a
better symbol in the default installed fonts. Using Word X Service
Release 1 with OS 10.2.8 and the fonts that came with Word X.

One way is to obtain a font that includes that character.

Another:

http://www.mcgimpsey.com/macoffice/word/macron
 
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Bob Mathews

Is it possible to insert a special character such as the Latin
Small Letter N with Tilde except with a BAR over the letter,
like a Macron, instead of the Tilde? If so, how?

Bill, there is an equation editor that comes with Word, but it's
not installed by default. First, check to see if it's installed.
Open Word, and in the Insert menu, click on Object. If "Microsoft
Equation" is listed there, Equation Editor is installed. If it's
not listed, follow these steps to install it...

Close Word. Put the Office X CD in your drive and double-click on
Value Pack. Double-click on Value Pack Installer, check the box
next to Equation Editor, and click Continue.

Instructions for using Equation Editor are in the Equation Editor
Help file, but here's how to get the n-bar you asked about...

With the cursor at the point in your document where you want the
n-bar to appear, click Insert > Object > Microsoft Equation. With
Equation Editor open, the first thing to do is set the fonts and
sizes to be the same as they are in your Word document. In
Equation Editor's Style menu, choose Define. Set these styles to
the same font as your Word doc: Text, Functions, Variables,
Matrix-Vector, and Numbers. Make sure the others are set to
Symbol font (L.C. Greek, U.C. Greek, and Symbols). Click OK.
Click on Size > Define and set the Full size to the same as your
text size in your Word document. (If you don't type a unit --
like pt, px, in, etc. -- the default is pt.) I recommend setting
the other sizes to percentage values. That way if you ever need
to change your Equation Editor sizes, all you'll need to change
will be the Full size. Set the other sizes to 58%, 42%, 150%, and
100%, in that order. (Be sure to type the % symbol.) Click OK.

Now we're ready to type the n-bar. In the Equation Editor
workspace, type an n. To get the bar, go to the "Primes, dots,
hats, and other accents" palette, which is the third from the
left on the top row. (Notice when you point to something in
Equation Editor's palette bar, its description is shown in
Equation Editor's "Status Bar", which is the bottom of the EE
window.) Click the Primes, dots, hats, and other accents palette
so that it expands. You'll see several "embellishments" shown
applied to vertical gray rectangles. These rectangles represent a
character that's already been typed -- in this case, your "n".
The bar embellishment is the fourth from the top in the first
column. Click it and the bar will be applied to the n. If you
need additional embellishments (like if you needed n-prime-bar),
just click another one. Note that none of these embellishments
will apply to more than one character. If you need a bar over
more than one character (to represent, for example, "line segment
AB"), those are in the "Underbar and overbar templates" palette,
which is the sixth from the left on the second row. These work a
little differently from the embellishments. You first click the
template, then type whatever you want inside, then press the Tab
key to exit the template and continue your expression.

The best way to learn how to use EE is to use the Help file to
get started, then use it to create a few equations. You'll learn
by doing.

This was long, but I'm sure it'll help. If not you, then someone
else.
--
Bob Mathews (e-mail address removed)
Director of Training 830-990-9699
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B

Bob Mathews

Bill,

I even proofread my last message, but after I posted it and read
the posted copy, I realized I left out one important piece of
information...

After you create your n-bar (or whatever expression you're
working on) in Equation Editor, all you need to do to get it into
the Word document is to close the EE window by clicking the Red
ball on the left (on the stoplight). If you like keyboard
shortcuts, it's Cmd-W.
--
Bob Mathews (e-mail address removed)
Director of Training 830-990-9699
http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news
FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType 5
Design Science, Inc. -- "How Science Communicates"
MathType, WebEQ, MathPlayer, MathFlow, Equation Editor, TeXaide
 
B

Bill

Another: Word 2004, the whole point of which (for me) is that it does
Unicode. m.

I am sorely tempted to upgrade but am determined to get a little more
mileage from X first. Thank you.

Bill
 
B

Bill

Looks like there is more than one way to skin this cat. Many thanks
to JE McGimpsey, Matt Neuburg, and Bob Mathews.

Bill
 
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Phillip M. Jones, CE.T.

Bob said:
Bill,

I even proofread my last message, but after I posted it and read
the posted copy, I realized I left out one important piece of
information...

After you create your n-bar (or whatever expression you're
working on) in Equation Editor, all you need to do to get it into
the Word document is to close the EE window by clicking the Red
ball on the left (on the stoplight). If you like keyboard
shortcuts, it's Cmd-W.

Ahh! glad to find someone else that has problems proofreading.

I can proofread an item 20 times and after it sent out, given out, or posted to
newsgroup, email, or even websites. I, or someone else will always something wrong.

Welcome to the club.

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Bob Mathews

Ahh! glad to find someone else that has problems proofreading.

I can proofread an item 20 times and after it sent out, given
out, or posted to newsgroup, email, or even websites. I, or
someone else will always something wrong.

Welcome to the club.

Oh I'm in several clubs -- like the club where people forget to
attach things when they've said in the e-mail "I've attached the
file...". I'm a charter member of that one.
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Bob Mathews (e-mail address removed)
Director of Training 830-990-9699
http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news
FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType 5
Design Science, Inc. -- "How Science Communicates"
MathType, WebEQ, MathPlayer, MathFlow, Equation Editor, TeXaide
 
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Phillip M. Jones, CE.T.

JE said:
See what I told you!

Supposed to be:

I, or someone else will always find something wrong
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