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inush
I'm a recent MAC owner and am used to using a PC. There is an "INSERT" button that allows one to type over already written text without having to delete everything first. Where is this on the MAC?
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CyberTaz
Ah, there's one in every crowd 
Although I personally don't miss it -
haven't used it since DOS died - I guess there are some who still find it
useful, but it's been tucked away on the Mac for a long time. If you're one
of the skilled craftsmen who have the keen insight into when to toggle it
on/off you can revive it in several ways...
The main control is through Word> Preferences> Edit where you'll find a
checkbox for Overtype, but it's an obvious PITA to keep jumping in & out of
the prefs - there is no keyboard or status bar toggle for it in Word 2008.
What you might want to do is assign a keystroke of your own - Go into Tools>
Customize Menus & Toolbars, click the Keyboard button & choose All from the
Categories list. Select Overtype from the list of Commands, put whatever
keystroke you want to use as a toggle into the box labeled for the purpose
then click Assign & OK out.
If you prefer you can add a custom button to a toolbar through the same
Customize... dialog instead of or in addition to the keystroke.
FWIW, I find it far more efficient to simply select the content to be
replaced & start typing the new stuff - there's no need to delete first, let
alone having to switch between editing modes. If you aren't familiar with
them you might want to have a look in Word Help - Word Keyboard Shortcuts
for the various keyboard as well as mousing techniques for selecting text -
if you're still *dragging* you're wasting a lot of time & effort
HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
Although I personally don't miss it -haven't used it since DOS died - I guess there are some who still find it
useful, but it's been tucked away on the Mac for a long time. If you're one
of the skilled craftsmen who have the keen insight into when to toggle it
on/off you can revive it in several ways...
The main control is through Word> Preferences> Edit where you'll find a
checkbox for Overtype, but it's an obvious PITA to keep jumping in & out of
the prefs - there is no keyboard or status bar toggle for it in Word 2008.
What you might want to do is assign a keystroke of your own - Go into Tools>
Customize Menus & Toolbars, click the Keyboard button & choose All from the
Categories list. Select Overtype from the list of Commands, put whatever
keystroke you want to use as a toggle into the box labeled for the purpose
then click Assign & OK out.
If you prefer you can add a custom button to a toolbar through the same
Customize... dialog instead of or in addition to the keystroke.
FWIW, I find it far more efficient to simply select the content to be
replaced & start typing the new stuff - there's no need to delete first, let
alone having to switch between editing modes. If you aren't familiar with
them you might want to have a look in Word Help - Word Keyboard Shortcuts
for the various keyboard as well as mousing techniques for selecting text -
if you're still *dragging* you're wasting a lot of time & effort
HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
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Elliott Roper
Is there? Gaack! You mean just like pressing "Start" for "Stop"?
There is nothing system-wide, but Word 2004 has such a button for the
nostalgic few. (It might be in a different spot on 2008)
Preferences È View È Status bar
With that polluting the bottom of your Word window, click on OVR to get
the overstrike behaviour you crave.
Like any snotty elitist Mac owner, I can't imagine why you would ever
want to use overstrike. Usually, starting to type when the text you
want to lose is selected is so much more efficient. There is less
fiddling about at the end. Once you get happy with all the keyboard
shortcuts for selecting text, in Word and on the Mac generally, you
will find yourself overstriking less and less. One day you will wake up
and realise you have become another snotty elitist Mac owner. <grin>
Welcome to Mac. Come back here often. We mellow over time.
E
Elliott Roper
Hiya Bob!CyberTaz said:Ah, there's one in every crowd
haven't used it since DOS died - I guess there are some who still find it
useful, but it's been tucked away on the Mac for a long time. If you're one
of the skilled craftsmen who have the keen insight into when to toggle it
on/off you can revive it in several ways...
We sure ganged up on that poor person!
I should really check you are not beating me to it before I press send.
P
Phillip Jones
Elliott said:
If OVR is truly missing on 2008 I haven't noticed because I never turned
it on in 2004; all you have to do is if you misspell a word or need
another word. Just mouseover the word and double-click (left mouse
button and that highlight the word. it almost as easy as trying to find
OVR, Then start typing about the same will happen as using overstrike
set feature.
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CyberTaz
Geez Elliott - "ganged up"?... That has such a pejorative connotation.
I prefer to think we simply concurred on highly efficient alternatives in a
coincidentally joint effort to educate, enlighten & elevate. And when you
and I agree on something in a manner so similar in content *and* emphasis
there must be at least a shred of validity to what we've proffered
)Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
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Daiya Mitchell
Just by the way:Elliott said:
2008 removed Overtype, Line Numbers, Section Numbers and the TRK button
for tracking changes from the status bar. Me, I'd like Section Numbers
back--but I also keep the Status Bar off. I have a toggle icon for when
I need to turn it on.
And yeah, Inush, Welcome to the Mac!
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Elliott Roper
Daiya Mitchell said:
It does eh? It ain't just me an' Bob trying to talk Inush outta using
overstrike, it's the whole MacBU!!
I too, leave all that stuff off. Minimal? My Word windows look like a
polar bear in a snowstorm. No rulers, no scroll bars, no toolbars,
nothin! Nothin' but the text ma'am. In page view. My fingers are so
used to the keystrokes I assigned to recorded macros for just about
everything, including TRK, I'm not moving to 2008 any time soon.
They weren't thinking of outlier cases like me when they did their
product research. That's for sure.
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CyberTaz
Yeah, but you & Elliott demand all the vertical real estate you can get.
Being of a younger generation you were spoiled by having cut your computer
eye teeth on13/15" monitors while Elliott is talented enough [not
suggesting you aren't
] to command the where-with-all to possess thelargest displays on the planet.
I, OTOH, spent so many hours riveted to the 128/512K Mac's 9" screen that
even my current MBP's 15.4" display challenges my peripheral vision...
Giving up that one itty-bitty line is no sacrifice whatsoever when compared
to the convenience of having functional info & controls situated there
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
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Elliott Roper
Bob. When you in a hole. STOP DIGGING!CyberTaz said:
Yeah, but you & Elliott demand all the vertical real estate you can get.
Being of a younger generation you were spoiled by having cut your computer
eye teeth on13/15" monitors while Elliott is talented enough [not
suggesting you aren't
largest displays on the planet.
Whippersnapper! I'd been hacking code for 15 years before I became oneI, OTOH, spent so many hours riveted to the 128/512K Mac's 9" screen that
even my current MBP's 15.4" display challenges my peripheral vision...
Giving up that one itty-bitty line is no sacrifice whatsoever when compared
to the convenience of having functional info & controls situated there
of the first ever to get a Mac in Australia. God knows what it cost in
today's money, but I haven't had much wherewithal ever since. OK I got
plenty of screen on my Pro (2*20") but I love this little 12"
Powerbook.
Before I chucked Office 2008 out I measured how much of the PB's
precious screen space was eaten with grayness and gratuitous eyecandy
that could not be preferenced away. I forget how many of the lonely 768
pixels were thrown away, I think it was 15 or 20%.
That and no recordable macros. 2008 went straight to Room 101
(You gotta have a 1984 joke when talkin' 128K Macs)
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CyberTaz
Now, now - don't go getting defensive on me
My intended inference wasdeference to exactly that... But without an implication that you're as long
in the tooth as I.
Nor did I make any mention of deep pockets
"Wherewithall" [hyphenated ornot] is a rather sweeping term encompassing far more than cash condition.
Apparently the remark isn't too far off the bulls-eye as you readily confess
to ownership of not 1, but 2 20-inchers - the proof is in the pudding (or
perhaps on the wall of the barn in this case)
No contradiction to anything here, it's just that *if* the Status Bar is
going to be made available it should better serve its intended purpose.
You're positively correct - the Status Bar in Word 2008 is an abject waste
of screen space providing virtually no *status* info at all. I've already
flown in the face of MacBU on that point - very closely emulating the style
of one John McGhie ;-)
.... And did you ever play Dark Castle?
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
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Elliott Roper
I confess! I had to google for it to find out what it was. Apart from
brief lamentable excursions into dungeon (On a PDP-10 already!),
minesweeper and tetris, I have not bothered with computer games. Seemed
a waste when programming computers was more fun and there were people
out there willing to pay me to have fun.
P
Phillip Jones
CyberTaz said:
Yeah, but you & Elliott demand all the vertical real estate you can get.
Being of a younger generation you were spoiled by having cut your computer
eye teeth on13/15" monitors while Elliott is talented enough [not
suggesting you aren't
largest displays on the planet.
I, OTOH, spent so many hours riveted to the 128/512K Mac's 9" screen that
even my current MBP's 15.4" display challenges my peripheral vision...
Giving up that one itty-bitty line is no sacrifice whatsoever when compared
to the convenience of having functional info & controls situated there
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
Yep I had an SE/30 as my first machine. Then I bought an Apple monitor
when I got my 7100/66.
Now I have a Mitsubishi DiamondPoint NX86LCD 17 by 17" screen. compared
to what I had been using its Ginormous. Looks Like a Wall mounted LCD Tv
to me. So I have tons of Room and the little items on status bar didn't
bother me I enjoyed the word count.
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