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drwrighty
Hi! I am wondering if this will be an issue. I have heard that installing Office 200 with only 1GB makes it incredibly slow. Any one with this experience before I mess my whole system up??? Thanks....
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CyberTaz
Although important, RAM is not the only thing that affects performance.
There are a number of other variables that factor into the equation, such
as:
microprocessor speed
available HD free space
speed of the HD
Not to mention whether you're attempting to run more than one program at a
time, the size of the files you're working with, graphic content, background
processes, ad infinitum.
The only reasonable thing to say is that many people are reporting Office
2008 to be a slower performer than previous versions in several respects,
but mostly with regard to startup time. I would hope that operating speed
will be improved over time, but "if" & "when" are questions that cannot be
honestly answered by anyone - including those who develop the software.
What I'd suggest you do is wait a bit for the free trial version to hit the
streets - I'm assuming there will be one along shortly. Once it's available
you can d/l it, try it out & see for yourself whether you like it from the
standpoint of operating speed as well as any other considerations. If not,
you're out nothing
There are a number of other variables that factor into the equation, such
as:
microprocessor speed
available HD free space
speed of the HD
Not to mention whether you're attempting to run more than one program at a
time, the size of the files you're working with, graphic content, background
processes, ad infinitum.
The only reasonable thing to say is that many people are reporting Office
2008 to be a slower performer than previous versions in several respects,
but mostly with regard to startup time. I would hope that operating speed
will be improved over time, but "if" & "when" are questions that cannot be
honestly answered by anyone - including those who develop the software.
What I'd suggest you do is wait a bit for the free trial version to hit the
streets - I'm assuming there will be one along shortly. Once it's available
you can d/l it, try it out & see for yourself whether you like it from the
standpoint of operating speed as well as any other considerations. If not,
you're out nothing
J
John McGhie
What you have heard is correct: Don't try it
It will run "OK" if you have only one application running. But as soon as
you want to fire up a few applications together, things will start to slow
down.
If you ever want to work on anything complex or a long document, things will
drag badly.
If all you need is short "office memo" kinds of documents, you may be OK.
But I would save yourself a bit of grief by snapping in another gig of
memory.
Certainly don't be quick to try it: watch the Mactopia website until the
service pack appears. Office 2008 is currently woefully slow in a G4. On a
Mac Mini.... It will be an exercise in frustration.
There are some performance patches and fixes on the way: wait for them at
least
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It will run "OK" if you have only one application running. But as soon as
you want to fire up a few applications together, things will start to slow
down.
If you ever want to work on anything complex or a long document, things will
drag badly.
If all you need is short "office memo" kinds of documents, you may be OK.
But I would save yourself a bit of grief by snapping in another gig of
memory.
Certainly don't be quick to try it: watch the Mactopia website until the
service pack appears. Office 2008 is currently woefully slow in a G4. On a
Mac Mini.... It will be an exercise in frustration.
There are some performance patches and fixes on the way: wait for them at
least
Cheers
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C
CyberTaz
<snip>
That's the biggest problem John - it's a G4 Mini (Original) which maxes out
at 1 GB It wasn't until they started shipping the Intel Minis that they
went to 2 GB.
<snip>John McGhie said:
That's the biggest problem John - it's a G4 Mini (Original) which maxes out
at 1 GB
It wasn't until they started shipping the Intel Minis that theywent to 2 GB.
J
John McGhie
Thanks Bob:
I wondered about that.
In which case, I repeat my original advice: "Don't try it."
Sorry: the machine just won't pull Office 2008 ‹ it will always run like
molasses in winter.
That said, I have a friend who tries to run Office 2007 in VPC7 on a G4
iMac. He can make a cup of tea between keystrokes...
Cheers
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I wondered about that.
In which case, I repeat my original advice: "Don't try it."
Sorry: the machine just won't pull Office 2008 ‹ it will always run like
molasses in winter.
That said, I have a friend who tries to run Office 2007 in VPC7 on a G4
iMac. He can make a cup of tea between keystrokes...
Cheers
<snip>
<snip>
That's the biggest problem John - it's a G4 Mini (Original) which maxes out
at 1 GB
went to 2 GB.
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B
Barkley Bees
That's quite discouraging. Surely, it must perform well on the latest
revision of the Mac Mini (2.0 Ghz Core 2 Duo) with the memory maxed out at
2GB?
I have an inkling that Apple will likely be refreshing the Mini line with a
CPU shrink (45nm), more memory support (4GB), larger hard drive (hopefully
faster rotational speed to go with it) and updated graphics (hopefully
Nvidia this time around and not integrated Intel graphics).
revision of the Mac Mini (2.0 Ghz Core 2 Duo) with the memory maxed out at
2GB?
I have an inkling that Apple will likely be refreshing the Mini line with a
CPU shrink (45nm), more memory support (4GB), larger hard drive (hopefully
faster rotational speed to go with it) and updated graphics (hopefully
Nvidia this time around and not integrated Intel graphics).
J
John McGhie
Yeah. The biggest hit you take is trying to run it in PowerPC. There are
huge performance issues with PPC currently. These will be fixed very soon.
However, it will still be struggling in only 1GB of memory. If I run all of
MS Office 2008, just sitting in the background doing nothing, it uses 1.78
GB of RAM.
As soon as I start to load the applications up by opening documents and
working on them, the memory shoots up
Obviously, this memory allocation will come down a little as they refine the
tuning. Office 2008 was rushed out the door in a fairly raw state: there's
a lot of tuning and fixing to be done yet.
But I would never expect them to be able to get all four applications to run
comfortably in one gig of memory on a PPC. Recall that PPC requires twice
the memory of an Intel box, because there are twice as many instructions in
the code. (That's not strictly true, scientifically. The reality is not
"quite" that bad, but it's a useful rule of thumb...)
Stick to Office 2004 ‹ it was DESIGNED to run on a G4 in 1 GB of memory
Cheers
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huge performance issues with PPC currently. These will be fixed very soon.
However, it will still be struggling in only 1GB of memory. If I run all of
MS Office 2008, just sitting in the background doing nothing, it uses 1.78
GB of RAM.
As soon as I start to load the applications up by opening documents and
working on them, the memory shoots up
Obviously, this memory allocation will come down a little as they refine the
tuning. Office 2008 was rushed out the door in a fairly raw state: there's
a lot of tuning and fixing to be done yet.
But I would never expect them to be able to get all four applications to run
comfortably in one gig of memory on a PPC. Recall that PPC requires twice
the memory of an Intel box, because there are twice as many instructions in
the code. (That's not strictly true, scientifically. The reality is not
"quite" that bad, but it's a useful rule of thumb...)
Stick to Office 2004 ‹ it was DESIGNED to run on a G4 in 1 GB of memory
Cheers
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John McGhie, Consultant Technical Writer
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McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
http://jgmcghie.fastmail.com.au/
Sydney, Australia. S33°53'34.20 E151°14'54.50
C
CyberTaz
Although I appreciate your "eager anticipation" of such a dream machine,
keep in mind the 2 things that make the Mini a Mini - compact size *&* low
price I'm not so sure that a $1500-$2000 Mini would fit into Apple's
marketing strategies.
keep in mind the 2 things that make the Mini a Mini - compact size *&* low
price
I'm not so sure that a $1500-$2000 Mini would fit into Apple'smarketing strategies.