installing on more than one machine?

[mkf112]

Version: 2008
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Processor: intel

We recently purchased Microsoft Word for Mac 2008 and have yet to install it. I use a laptop as my primary computer. I need to install Word on my laptop, but I would also like to install it on my desktop, which I would use as my backup computer. Does anyone know if this is allowable? Does Microsoft restrict you to installing the program on one computer? If I install it on one, will it not allow me to install it on another? Do I have to purchase two copies in order to install it on two computers? Can anyone point to a web site with guidelines or instructions about this?

Thank you!

 

[CyberTaz]

The info you seek is contained in the End User License Agreement to which
you agree & have the opportunity to print when you install the software. The
specifics vary a bit depending on which specific version of office but
basically you're permitted to do as you suggest...

Office may be installed on one "stationary" & one "portable" computer for
the use of the licensee. However, you're not permitted to run both
installations concurrently. If you're running an Office app on one system
while the computers are active on the same network the attempt to launch any
Office app on the second system will be blocked.

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

 

[John McGhie]

The best source of information is the licence information that came with the
product.

Its on a pamphlet inside the box. It is also on the Readme file that will
be displayed before you install.

The answer is: You need one licence for each copy you want to have running
concurrently.

If you are running the thing in only one place at once, you can install a
Desktop and a Laptop on the same licence.

If you want someone else using the other computer while you use the laptop,
then you need two licences.

Hope this helps

Version: 2008
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Processor: intel

We recently purchased Microsoft Word for Mac 2008 and have yet to install it.
I use a laptop as my primary computer. I need to install Word on my laptop,
but I would also like to install it on my desktop, which I would use as my
backup computer. Does anyone know if this is allowable? Does Microsoft
restrict you to installing the program on one computer? If I install it on
one, will it not allow me to install it on another? Do I have to purchase two
copies in order to install it on two computers? Can anyone point to a web site
with guidelines or instructions about this?

Thank you!

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[MC]

What happens if you disconnect from the network, launch, then reconnect
to the network?

article <C3FFC8D8.35D67%[email protected]>,

 

[mkf112]

Thank you for your reply. This definitely helps!

 

[mkf112]

Thanks very much for replying! This helps a lot.

 

[John McGhie]

You waste time getting the network plug back in
It still won't work

What happens if you disconnect from the network, launch, then reconnect
to the network?

article <C3FFC8D8.35D67%[email protected]>,

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[Matt Centurión [MSFT]]

Actually, if you read the License Agreement for Standard edition @
http://download.microsoft.com/documents/useterms/Office for Mac Standa
rd_2008_English_18400ddc-1ac0-4782-a486-33b8e212b64d.pdf

You¹ll see that there¹s nothing in there to prevent you from running both
copies at the same time:

2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS.

The only limitation is that the copy in use on the laptop is only used by
the single primary user (yourself). So if you have a desktop at home and a
portable device. And you bought the software. A family member could be using
Office on the desktop computer while you are using it on the laptop
computer.

However the same is not true vice-versa. You can¹t be using it on the
desktop while someone else is using it on the laptop.

Hope this helps.

Matt
MacOffice Testing
Microsoft

 

[MC]

The only limitation is that the copy in use on the laptop is only used by
the single primary user (yourself). So if you have a desktop at home and a
portable device. And you bought the software. A family member could be using
Office on the desktop computer while you are using it on the laptop
computer.

However the same is not true vice-versa. You can¹t be using it on the
desktop while someone else is using it on the laptop.

Hope this helps.

Matt
MacOffice Testing
Microsoft

Um, how does Microsoft know who's using what?

 

[CyberTaz]

Where's Phillip when you need him? - I'm sure he'd be glad to explain about
the remotely controlled spyware included in every MS app that constantly
transmits user ID info (including fingerprints, hair & eye color , etc.)
back to the MS agents via their Eye in the Sky;-)

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

 

[MC]

Well exactly! Then there are all those CCTV cameras everywhere.

And people call you and me"weird" just because we wear aluminum foil
hats.

 

[Phillip Jones]

If you own a PC that's very likely!! ;-)

Being on a Mac that haven't quite figured that out how to do it yet. So
if you have a laptop with a camera built in and its a PC, don't use it
in the bathroom. ;-)

Where's Phillip when you need him? - I'm sure he'd be glad to explain about
the remotely controlled spyware included in every MS app that constantly
transmits user ID info (including fingerprints, hair & eye color , etc.)
back to the MS agents via their Eye in the Sky;-)

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

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[CyberTaz]

I thought you were lurking about out there somewhere, Phillip - It's about
time you got out of bed;-)

Regards |:>)
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[Phillip Jones]

Actually, if you read the License Agreement for Standard edition @
http://download.microsoft.com/docum...lish_18400ddc-1ac0-4782-a486-33b8e212b64d.pdf

You’ll see that there’s nothing in there to prevent you from running
both copies at the same time:

2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS.

a. Licensed Device. The licensed device is the device on which
you use the software. You may install and use one
copy of the software on the licensed device.
b. Portable Device. You may install another copy on a portable
device for use by the single primary user of the
licensed device.


The only limitation is that the copy in use on the laptop is only used
by the single primary user (yourself). So if you have a desktop at home
and a portable device. And you bought the software. A family member
could be using Office on the desktop computer while you are using it on
the laptop computer.

However the same is not true vice-versa. You can’t be using it on the
desktop while someone else is using it on the laptop.

Hope this helps.

Matt
MacOffice Testing
Microsoft

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uh! run that by us again. I'm dense.

If both pieces of equipment are in your possession, in your home, and a
family member wants to use one or the other. what difference does it
make whether you are on the desktop or Laptop and the family member is
on the other, so long as they are not attached to a working network.

Now I am not questioning if one is taken off site (away from your home)
that would be obvious violation. Why is it legal if one is using the
desktop and the other is the laptop, but the reverse is illegal.

Seems like regardless of who is using what, so long as its not on a
network, or taken out of the premises in which it was installed It
wouldn't make a difference.

How does the software know who is operating what. May a silly previous
comment in a another thread to which I answered , is not as silly
sounding after all. :-/

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[MC]

Being on a Mac that haven't quite figured that out how to do it yet. So
if you have a laptop with a camera built in and its a PC, don't use it
in the bathroom. ;-)

So *that*'s where all those photos on the internet come from.

 

[Beth Rosengard]

The software doesn't actually know who is *using* what, but it does know
which user is logged in. So I guess if you log in to both your desktop and
laptop, then anyone could actually be *using* the machines ­ but of course
then they'd have access to all your files unless you'd otherwise protected
them!

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[Matt Centurión [MSFT]]

Your questions are not about licensing but about enforcement. Just as one
cannot verify that you've only made 1 backup copy (allowable by the license)
the software doesn't check who is using what machine.

But by using the software (and having clicked "Accept" to the license) you
have agreed to follow the terms of that license.

Matt
MacOffice Testing
Microsoft

 

[Phillip Jones]

I'm not questioning enforcement. I don't intend to break the law or
agreement.

what I question is your saying:

you installed on a Desktop and Laptop per the EULA.

and If your son or daughter or wife uses the tower (desktop) unit and
you use the Laptop everything is Legal.

But if you use the Tower and your wife, daughter, or son use the Laptop
its illegal.

If both are in your possession, and neither are being used on a network.
And neither has been moved out of the place you normally use it.

How is one set of circumstances legal and the other not. That is what I
am questioning.

I'm not posting on this thread to be a Thorn in anyones side. I just
trying to wrap head around the idea that one set of circumstances are
legal and the reverse is not?

Also suppose I allow some one to use my computer while I am looking over
their shoulder. Its still in my possession, just someone other than me
is using it. Is That illegal? I don't plan on doing it, just asking a
question.

Your questions are not about licensing but about enforcement. Just as one
cannot verify that you've only made 1 backup copy (allowable by the license)
the software doesn't check who is using what machine.

But by using the software (and having clicked "Accept" to the license) you
have agreed to follow the terms of that license.

Matt
MacOffice Testing
Microsoft

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[Matt Centurión [MSFT]]

Phillip, you don't want to do your homework and read the EULA yourself and
just want me to explain it to you. I get it

Maybe if I give you an example from a different product this might help.
Consider this statement from Adobe Macromedia license (
http://www.adobe.com/products/eulas/):

HOME USE OF MACROMEDIA BRANDED PRODUCTS

Notwithstanding the terms of the product license agreement included within a
Macromedia branded product, when such a product is licensed through Adobe¹s
Open Options licensing program (not including Student Licensing, Site
Licensing, and Term Licensing), the primary user of the computer on which such
software is lawfully installed may install a second copy of such software for
his or her exclusive use on either a portable computer or a computer located
at his or her home, provided that the software on the portable or home
computer is not used at the same time as the software on the primary computer.

Notice that it specifies ³primary user² and ³his or her exclusive use on ..
a portable computer². Which means you need to identify who the primary user
of the computer is, and then that person can install it on a portable for
only THEIR use, not the use of any secondary, tertiary, etc.. users.

From the way I read the Office license, we are similar to this Adobe license
except that
a) We don¹t allow 2nd install on a desktop, just a portable.
b) We allow them to be used at the same time.

In other companies¹ more restrictive licenses, you need to buy additional
licenses for every person that will be using the software. Yikes! And in
fact, the Home & Student Edition comes with 3 licenses, which means up to 3
family members are considered ³primary users² which means all 3 of them can
also install onto laptops if they have them. Which then means 3 other
non-primary users can use the desktop copies. Wow! 6 copies of Office
running at the same time.. Even if the machines are all networked! What a
bargain!

So that¹s what I read from this. Again, it¹s up to you to decide who the
³primary user² is and abide by the license agreement.

And remember, just because you use 2 copies with the same license on
non-networked computers and you don¹t get the ³this license is in use²
dialog, doesn¹t mean you are following the terms of the license agreement.

I hope this answers all your questions as this is the extent of my
knowledge. If you have additional questions I sincerely suggest you contact
a lawyer as they eat these types of documents for lunch and can explain
every detail better than I.

Matt
MacOffice Testing
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[Clive Huggan]

Hello Matt,

I¹d like to clarify one aspect so that it might replace my previous
understanding.

Without going to the EULA either (I¹d, umm, like to, but don¹t have the time
‹ it¹s Monday in Australia): I had interpreted the fact that Office would
not open on a network if it found an existing installation with the same
serial number already at work as reinforcing what I understood to be a
prohibition of two running at the same time (albeit if the two computers
were not on a network they would be capable of operating undetected at the
same time). That¹s not so, in your view?

(If you don¹t want to get further involved, I¹ll just keep my ³underlying
theory² to myself; I have 5 licences myself...)

(And in that event, please ignore my theory, Phillip ‹ it might be a bit
dangerous. ;-)

Cheers,

Clive
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