Is it possible to detect...

[indiana]

Dear Sir/Mam

Is it possible to detect that "the text in a MS-Word 2003 document has not
been typed manually" or copied from other sources like notepad or clipboard,
etc.,

Could it be possible to find, actually what i mean to say is when someone
copied some text in notepad it will be stored in clipboard temporarily right?
and now if they pasted that text into a MS-Word 2003 document, actually they
didn't typed it manually right. At this situation is there any process to
find that the text they just pasted into the word doc has not been typed
manually rather it is brought from a notepad or clipboard.

Is it possible to find it using MS-word code behind files?

Please help if any body knows about it it's urgent please....

Thank you.

 

[Terry Farrell]

Most unlikely, especially if it was plain, unformatted text from Notepad.

 

[Luc]

Indiana,
Don't think there is a way to detect that.

 

[Tony Jollans]

There is no way to test this directly in Word but if I was your teacher I
might recognise that the text was not written in your normal style and be a
little suspicious - there is software available that can analyse text for
this purpose as well. My advice to you would be to not try to cheat - if you
have copied something, or are quoting somebody else, say so.

 

[Jay Freedman]

Adding one more bit to what the other replies said, there is no such
thing as "MS-word code behind files". Code-behind is a concept from
ASP.NET, MXML, XAML and similar technologies. It doesn't exist in
Word.

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[indiana via OfficeKB.com]

Dear sir/Madam,
Actually i am not trying to cheat any body, i am trying to be fair with my
client.

First of all thanks for your needful reply, if it is not possible for me to
detect, is it possible to any software or programmed servers to find that?
Actually why i am asking more specifically because, i am a freelancer and two
boys works for me from remote place and they the will have to perform some
manual typing tasks given by me, in which they will have to type text on any
jpg file into word doc manually, this is the strict requirement of my client
too. So i have a doubt weather they are typing manually or using any
conversion s/w. Anyways finally they will send content filled word docs to me
through mails and i will have to send these docs to my client, if anyway my
client recognizes that those doc files have not been typed manually, he will
cut my deal.This is the problem actually i am facing. So will it be possible
for my client to find that those files have not been typed manually, using
any software or would any information be available behind the word codes
which are not seen by common mans like me.
Thanks.

 

[indiana via OfficeKB.com]

Indiana,
Don't think there is a way to detect that.

Dear Sir/Mam

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Thank you.

Dear Sir/Madam,
First of all thanks for your needful reply, if it is not possible for me to
detect, is it possible to any software or programmed servers to find that?
Actually why i am asking more specifically because, i am a freelancer and two
boys works for me from remote place and they the will have to perform some
manual typing tasks given by me, in which they will have to type text on any
jpg file into word doc manually, this is the strict requirement of my client
too. So i have a doubt weather they are typing manually or using any
conversion s/w. Anyways finally they will send content filled word docs to me
through mails and i will have to send these docs to my client, if anyway my
client recognizes that those doc files have not been typed manually, he will
cut my deal.This is the problem actually i am facing. So will it be possible
for my client to find that those files have not been typed manually, using
any software or would any information be available behind the word codes
which are not seen by common mans like me.
Thanks.

 

[indiana via OfficeKB.com]

Dear Sir/Madam,
First of all thanks for your needful reply, if it is not possible for me to
detect, is it possible to any software or programmed servers to find that?
Actually why i am asking more specifically because, i am a freelancer and two
boys works for me from remote place and they the will have to perform some
manual typing tasks given by me, in which they will have to type text on any
jpg file into word doc manually, this is the strict requirement of my client
too. So i have a doubt weather they are typing manually or using any
conversion s/w. Anyways finally they will send content filled word docs to me
through mails and i will have to send these docs to my client, if anyway my
client recognizes that those doc files have not been typed manually, he will
cut my deal.This is the problem actually i am facing. So will it be possible
for my client to find that those files have not been typed manually, using
any software or would any information be available behind the word codes
which are not seen by common mans like me.
Thanks.

Most unlikely, especially if it was plain, unformatted text from Notepad.

Dear Sir/Mam

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Thank you.

 

[Terry Farrell]

If the copy and pasting is done from a web page or from a heavily formatted
Word document and no effort is made to remove the styles and formatting of
the originals, then it would be suspicious by still not proven. But if they
do this but paste into Notepad first or the use Paste Special, Text Only
feature, there is no way to know.

What you could do is to install Key Loggers onto their computers which
silently log EVERY keystroke they make on their computer. However, you MUST
explain to them that it is a requirement of the contract to type everything
and that the Key Loggers are a mandatory part of the contract.

Terry

Dear Sir/Madam,
First of all thanks for your needful reply, if it is not possible for me
to
detect, is it possible to any software or programmed servers to find that?
Actually why i am asking more specifically because, i am a freelancer and
two
boys works for me from remote place and they the will have to perform some
manual typing tasks given by me, in which they will have to type text on
any
jpg file into word doc manually, this is the strict requirement of my
client
too. So i have a doubt weather they are typing manually or using any
conversion s/w. Anyways finally they will send content filled word docs to
me
through mails and i will have to send these docs to my client, if anyway
my
client recognizes that those doc files have not been typed manually, he
will
cut my deal.This is the problem actually i am facing. So will it be
possible
for my client to find that those files have not been typed manually, using
any software or would any information be available behind the word codes
which are not seen by common mans like me.
Thanks.

Most unlikely, especially if it was plain, unformatted text from Notepad.

Dear Sir/Mam

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Thank you.

 

[Tony Jollans]

I hesitate to reply, but in the bizarre circumstances you describe, where
specific text must be entered in a document, it is possible that there are
non-display characters in the original text that could get copied across,
although they should all be visible if you set Word to display everything.
That said, I don't believe you can copy text from a jpeg, so it is all moot.

 

[Graham Mayor]

No but you could (probably) extract it with OCR.

I am however having difficulty understanding why this matters. It shouldn't
matter a jot whether the text is type, pasted or whatever as long as the end
result is the same. *Anything* can be copied. The (often minor) difficulty
is in reproducing the copy to match the original. In the case of Word, paste
special as unformatted text, should give results identical to typed text,
and there is no way of determining whether it was typed or pasted.

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I hesitate to reply, but in the bizarre circumstances you describe, where
specific text must be entered in a document, it is possible that there are
non-display characters in the original text that could get copied across,
although they should all be visible if you set Word to display everything.
That said, I don't believe you can copy text from a jpeg, so it is all
moot.

 

[indiana via OfficeKB.com]

Thanks for your needful advice.

If the copy and pasting is done from a web page or from a heavily formatted
Word document and no effort is made to remove the styles and formatting of
the originals, then it would be suspicious by still not proven. But if they
do this but paste into Notepad first or the use Paste Special, Text Only
feature, there is no way to know.

What you could do is to install Key Loggers onto their computers which
silently log EVERY keystroke they make on their computer. However, you MUST
explain to them that it is a requirement of the contract to type everything
and that the Key Loggers are a mandatory part of the contract.

Terry

Dear Sir/Madam,
First of all thanks for your needful reply, if it is not possible for me

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[indiana via OfficeKB.com]

Thanks for your needful reply.

I hesitate to reply, but in the bizarre circumstances you describe, where
specific text must be entered in a document, it is possible that there are
non-display characters in the original text that could get copied across,
although they should all be visible if you set Word to display everything.
That said, I don't believe you can copy text from a jpeg, so it is all moot.

Dear sir/Madam,
Actually i am not trying to cheat any body, i am trying to be fair with my

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which are not seen by common mans like me.
Thanks.

 

[Flip]

Hello,
Many schools use software for this. And not only teachers, it can be very
heplfull for students as well.
Example:
http://www.icto.tudelft.nl/en/icto-showcase/anti-plagiarism-software/
Or just search the Web on plagiarism-scanners/checkers

Flip

 

[Terry Farrell]

I don't think that this is appropriate. These people have jpegs (scans) of
documents that must be turned into editable text by typing in what they see
and not by pasting in the text as pictures. I don't think they are trying to
stop plagiarisms.

Terry