Is it possible to tell if message is deleted without being read?

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veredev

I am aware that I can get a "recieved" and "read" notice
however, I would like to see if there is any way to have a message sent an
the
tell me if it was deleted by the recipient WITHOUT being read??
 
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VanguardLH

veredev said:
I am aware that I can get a "recieved" and "read" notice,
however, I would like to see if there is any way to have a message sent and
then
tell me if it was deleted by the recipient WITHOUT being read??

You don't get to invade the privacy of others. What they do with their
e-mails is their business. All you can hope is that they CHOOSE to read
your e-mails. You cannot force them to read your e-mails. You also
don't get to monitor what they are doing on their computers - unless
your question is to degenerate into how to install keyloggers or event
loggers on someone else's property.

If you want to monitor if someone read your message then you need to
operate your own web site that tracks access and actions on your
messages. You would then send a URL in your e-mail to the recipient to
tell them that your message is available on the server to which you get
statistics. Of course, they could just delete your e-mail with the URL
and never bother to visit your site.

You could read up on Microsoft's Rights Management (RM) server that is
used in tandem with their Outlook and Exchange products. RM might have
an option to monitor actions taken on messages that come from the
Exchange server (i.e., dropped into the recipient's mailbox) and RM
might monitor what you did with it, or maybe Exchange has its own
monitoring of events, like a DELete command on a message, but then you
would need to convince the Exchange admin to configure it to log that
info. You need to ask in the Exchange newsgroup if what you want is
available in that mail server or via an RM server. Of course, Exchange
and RM are used in corporate environments so this would only let one
company employee, like a boss or manager, check if another employee
deleted a message without being read. Since all the content and
resources are their property, they might want to monitor all of it.

If you are asking on how to spy on recipients when using SMTP or webmail
that is outside your control and not your property then you need to
visit newsgroups that discuss how to proliferate spyware to infect the
hosts of the property of others.
 
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Evan Platt

I am aware that I can get a "recieved" and "read" notice,

No, you can REQUEST a received and read notice.

However my mail program is configured to ASK me.

Received means it was received by the server - nothing more. A read
receipt is up to the receiver. I generally decline them.

however, I would like to see if there is any way to have a message sent and
then tell me if it was deleted by the recipient WITHOUT being read??

No. Not reliably.
 

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