Thank you for expressing what I have thought for many years...
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After furious head scratching, Yves Dhondt asked:
| || I totally agree with Old Hand. I went from being a confident power
|| user of
|
| No, you never were a power user. A real power user hardly cares about
| the user interface. A real power user would stick to shortcuts (which
| haven't changed). Having to move your hand from the keyboard to your
| mouse and then having to navigate a menu or ribbon to select
| something trivial which you could have achieved by pressing
| CTRL+<some letter> for example, is a pure waste of time. You're an
| average user, just like most of us. There is no shame in that. Just
| don't pretend to be better than you are.
|
|| Office 2003 to a frustrated novice of 2007. I can't even format
|| basic spreadsheets or documents. It is not intuitive to me. I
|| simply avoid using
|| this product, and this has greatly damaged my productivity and
|| self-esteem.
|| The MVP's somewhat snippy reply perhaps shows that the developers at
|| Microsoft are so taken by their own desires and attitudes that they
|| lost touch with their customer. I have not seen any other product
|| using ribbons,
|| and just because Microsoft declares it the wave of the future does
|| not make
|
| WinZip, PowerArchiver, SnagIt, NitroPDF, AutoCAD, SolSuite, several
| Windows 7 applications, ... There are already hundreds of programs
| with a ribbon interface. Even OpenOffice is prototyping with a ribbon
| interface.
|
|| it so. In fact, I purchased a cheapie Office suite from a
|| competitor for $25
|
| Why did you pay $25? If you wanted classic menus, you could have
| either installed OpenOffice, which is free, or downloaded one of the
| dozen free addons which add a tab with classic menus to your Office
| user interface. For example, see
|
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Ribbon_Menu_Controls.htm (last image on
| that page)
|
|| just to regain some productivity. Sorry Milly, but "New" does not
|| equate with "Better." The ribbons are visual clutter taking up huge
|| amounts of space displaying functions I rarely use. Your focus
|| groups obviously include
|
| Double click a tab and the ribbon takes up as much space as an
| ordinary menu. Displaying the ribbon again is then done by simply
| clicking a tab ... just like ordinary menus.
|
|| people eager to please Microsoft but who are unconcerned about real
|| users in
|| the real world. This is not a problem with Old Hand's attitude nor
|| mine and I
|| resent your flippant comments. I have an MBA and a rather high IQ
|| and I am
|| quite comfortable with constructive change. This was a radical
|| change that was completely unnecessary. Look within and stop
|| insulting people who take
|| the time to write to you. Perhaps you need a vacation and that
|| explains your
|| inappropriately condescending tone. Anyway, thanks very much for
|| listening
|| to me whine, rant and ramble. I appreciate the opportunity (and
|| hope I posted this correctly--it is 3 am and I don't have my
|| glasses!). Best wishes
|| to both Old Hand and Milly...
||
|| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
||
|||
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archive/2008/03/12/the-story-of-the-ribbon.aspx
||| for the history of the ribbon.
|||
||| The ribbon is NOT going away and many more non-Microsoft
||| applications are adapting the ribbon interface. As with going from
||| command line to GUI, there is a learning curve. And I say it is
||| about time for a change - it has
||| me me more productive in the applications I use... and my attitude
||| has a lot
||| to do with it.
|||
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||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
|||
||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.
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|||
||| After furious head scratching, OldHand asked:
|||
|||| I'm sure numerous victims of this software do hope the ribbon will
|||| go away. If it doesn't, M$ office will go away, sooner or later.
||||
|||| Did anyone try using these applications before releasing them, and
|||| if they did, did they produce a report we can read?
||||
|||| These days we no longer expect routine software to be quite so
|||| irritating. For example, if you want to insert a footnote or a
|||| legend in Word, you have to remember that those sorts of insertion
|||| are not under Insertion, but they go under 'References' (French
|||| term). A legend is not a reference, so you tend to click around
|||| for a while till you find it.
||||
|||| Font characteristics are under 'Acceuil', but subscripts and
|||| superscripts (which even schoolkids need) are nowhere easy to find.
|||| You can add them only to the top menu, which is quite ridiculous.
||||
|||| Why can't we configure the menus ourselves?
||||
|||| It takes time to learn new habits with new software. This is a
|||| total waste of time if the new software does nothing you need that
|||| you didn't have already. Nobody is going to develop good plugins
|||| for an application that is likely to be replaced quite soon by
|||| something else completely different.
||||
||||
||||
||||
|||| "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" <
[email protected]> a écrit dans le
|||| message de ||||| There are third party add-ins available. Not sure if any are free
||||| tho. I wouldn't count on them being completely what you want. My
||||| personal suggestion would be to get used to the ribbon. It's not
||||| going to go away and you may not always be able to rely on an
||||| add-in being available.
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||||| JoAnn Paules
||||| MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
||||| Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"
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||||| |||||| I greatly prefer the look and feel of Office 2003 when using Word
|||||| and Excel;
|||||| I am just curious if there is an "upgrade" or something similar
|||||| that can cause Office 2007 to act like Office 2003. Thanks for
|||||| any input.
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