Is there any way to insert a "double accent" (as in Hungarian) mark ABOVE a letter?

G

Gary Goldberg

I want to insert a common accent mark used in Hungarian in a Word98
document. I see
how to insert various other single-stroke accent marks, a tilde, and umlaut
but not the double accent
mark for a long vowel in Hungarian (close to a quote mark or a double ').
Is there any way
to do this?
 
B

Beth Rosengard


Hi Gary & Fredrik,

Gary is in Word 98 ­ and presumably OS 9 or earlier? ­ which means this
article won't help him. I suspect the character Gary is looking for is
available only in an application (like Word 2004) which supports Unicode
fonts (time to upgrade, Gary?).

John McGimpsey has a workaround that allows you to type a vowel with a
macron: <http://www.mcgimpsey.com/macoffice/word/macron.html>. Perhaps
you'll be able to adapt it to your needs. You may also be able to display
special characters by using a Central European (CE) font, but see the caveat
in John's article.

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A

Andreas Prilop

I want to insert a common accent mark used in Hungarian in a Word98
document.

On which operating system? Mac OS 8? Mac OS 9?
I see
how to insert various other single-stroke accent marks, a tilde, and umlaut
but not the double accent
mark for a long vowel in Hungarian (close to a quote mark or a double ').

You need Central European (CE) fonts for Hungarian letters:
http://www.unics.uni-hannover.de/nhtcapri/central-european.html
http://www.unics.uni-hannover.de/nhtcapri/central-european.mac
 
G

Gary Goldberg

Beth Rosengard said:
http://iraszl.brinkster.net/creativebits/2004/12/os-x-typing-special-charact
er

Hi Gary & Fredrik,

Gary is in Word 98 ­ and presumably OS 9 or earlier? ­ which means this
article won't help him. I suspect the character Gary is looking for is
available only in an application (like Word 2004) which supports Unicode
fonts (time to upgrade, Gary?).

Nah, Word98 suits my needs fine, and I used various flavors of Unix at work
for over a decade before OS X and have no desire to use it on a personal
computer.
John McGimpsey has a workaround that allows you to type a vowel with a
macron: <http://www.mcgimpsey.com/macoffice/word/macron.html>. Perhaps
you'll be able to adapt it to your needs. You may also be able to display
special characters by using a Central European (CE) font, but see the caveat
in John's article.

Thanks for the URL. I'll check it out!
 
P

Paul Berkowitz

Nah, Word98 suits my needs fine, and I used various flavors of Unix at work
for over a decade before OS X and have no desire to use it on a personal
computer.

1) You want to use a Unicode character.

2) Unicode is available only in Word 2004, not earlier.

3) Word 2004 runs only on OS 10.2.8 and later.

4) You say Word 98 suits your needs.

If your needs include Unicode characters, then Word 98 does not suit your
needs. Notice the inconsistency? I hope the workaround works for you.

If you weren't aware of it until now (sort of unbelievable), OS X does not
present a Unix _interface_ (unless you want it to). It's got an extremely
elegant and attractive graphical user interface.

--
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MVP MacOffice
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A

Andreas Prilop

1) You want to use a Unicode character.
2) Unicode is available only in Word 2004, not earlier.
3) Word 2004 runs only on OS 10.2.8 and later.
4) You say Word 98 suits your needs.
If your needs include Unicode characters, then Word 98 does not suit your
needs. Notice the inconsistency?

He wants Hungarian letters. Such can be written with Central European
fonts and Word 5.1 on System 7.
http://www.unics.uni-hannover.de/nhtcapri/central-european.html
 
G

Gary Goldberg

Paul Berkowitz said:
1) You want to use a Unicode character.

2) Unicode is available only in Word 2004, not earlier.

3) Word 2004 runs only on OS 10.2.8 and later.

4) You say Word 98 suits your needs.

If your needs include Unicode characters, then Word 98 does not suit your
needs. Notice the inconsistency? I hope the workaround works for you.

Well, it did for years until now. It's taken years for me to acquire a need to
find a need for this diacritical, as I don't routinely deal with Hungarian
names. Hardly a reason to change OS's.
If you weren't aware of it until now (sort of unbelievable), OS X does not
present a Unix _interface_ (unless you want it to). It's got an extremely
elegant and attractive graphical user interface.

Well, so does the Amiga...and the classic OS.
 
P

Paul Berkowitz

Well, it did for years until now. It's taken years for me to acquire a need to
find a need for this diacritical, as I don't routinely deal with Hungarian
names. Hardly a reason to change OS's.

Not really, As Andreas said (and I hadn't noticed), you didn't necessarily
need Unicode characters, you needed Hungarian characters. Those were
available for classic OS using a font with the Central European character
set, as provided in OS 9 with the Central European language kit. (In OS 9
Language Kits came on the CD; in earlier versions of OS 8, you'd have to buy
it separately, or obtain individual fonts from somewhere else.) Depending
which font you used you might find that non-Latin characters would not
appear if you used them in a Word doc which you then passed to a Windows
user, since they used Mac versions of "international text". I think you
would have been fine with Central European characters though, which are part
of a standard extended Latin set. This is not true for many other languages,
where real Unicode is needed.
Well, so does the Amiga...and the classic OS.

That's beside the point, if arguable. You had said you didn't want to use a
Unix-based system on a home computer, presumably meaning you didn't want to
have to deal with a Unix command line. If that's not what you meant, what
reason would you have against a Unix-based computer at home? And of course
no one except super-geeks access the command line in OS X. We use a
beautiful GUI largely derived from Classic Mac OS but nicer, as long as you
have a modern computer that can cope with the need for more power and RAM.
If you have an older computer I can understand why you might want to stay in
OS 9.

--
Paul Berkowitz
MVP MacOffice
Entourage FAQ Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq/index.html>
AppleScripts for Entourage: <http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/>

Please "Reply To Newsgroup" to reply to this message. Emails will be
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PLEASE always state which version of Microsoft Office you are using -
**2004**, X or 2001. It's often impossible to answer your questions
otherwise.
 

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