Issue with Page Titles in Quick Notes

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ricochet

I capture info in Quick Notes all day long. But I don't have the title
display in Quick Notes (quite frankly, I don't know if you can...) and
I'm getting a problem when I get into the main application when I view
a page created originally as a Quick Note. I can't rename the Title
just using the tab (ideally, just clicking on it twice, like changing
icon names, or right-clicking and choosing the Rename option) so i have
to use the View Titles Option in the Format Menu.

Why, by the way, is the View Titles Option not in the VIEW MENU??????

Anyway, the Title Section shows up as an overlay on the stuff I'd
copied into the Quick Note. Very annoying. I have to manually move
the container with the original data in it so I can view the Title
correctly. Please help! Thanks.
 
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ricochet

ricochet said:
I capture info in Quick Notes all day long. But I don't have the title
display in Quick Notes (quite frankly, I don't know if you can...) and
I'm getting a problem when I get into the main application when I view
a page created originally as a Quick Note. I can't rename the Title
just using the tab (ideally, just clicking on it twice, like changing
icon names, or right-clicking and choosing the Rename option) so i have
to use the View Titles Option in the Format Menu.

Why, by the way, is the View Titles Option not in the VIEW MENU??????

Anyway, the Title Section shows up as an overlay on the stuff I'd
copied into the Quick Note. Very annoying. I have to manually move
the container with the original data in it so I can view the Title
correctly. Please help! Thanks.

A quick addendum: if you type in a Page Title, and then come back to it
later and take off the Show Page Title Option, it loses the title
permanently. The title of the page goes back to Untitled. :(
 
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Grant Robertson

I capture info in Quick Notes all day long. But I don't have the title
display in Quick Notes (quite frankly, I don't know if you can...)

It's for taking quick notes, get it? They wanted to save as much room as
possible for the note itself because the quicknote window is small. If
they had made the title display by default then people would be
complaining that there wasn't enough room to write in.
I'm getting a problem when I get into the main application when I view
a page created originally as a Quick Note. I can't rename the Title
just using the tab (ideally, just clicking on it twice, like changing
icon names, or right-clicking and choosing the Rename option) so i have
to use the View Titles Option in the Format Menu.

Lots of people have asked to be able to rename the pages by clicking on
the tab. I don't think it will ever happen.

Why, by the way, is the View Titles Option not in the VIEW MENU??????

Because Microsoft rarely does things that make sense. Actually, I am
learning that they do things the way that 99% of the population would
expect them to be done. Unfortunately, 99% of the population are idiots
and have no concern for consistency. They just want things to be in the
first place they look. It is probably considered a format change to have
or not to have the title there.

Anyway, the Title Section shows up as an overlay on the stuff I'd
copied into the Quick Note. Very annoying. I have to manually move
the container with the original data in it so I can view the Title
correctly. Please help! Thanks.

If you know the title is going to plop itself down on top of the text
when you turn it on then you just need to get into the habit of using the
Insert Extra Writing Space tool before you turn on the titles. It's
called a work-around. You gotta figure them out and get used to using
them in almost any software you use in this world. Yeah, it would be nice
if they automatically looked to see if there was stuff there, then
automatically inserted the extra writing space as needed. But don't hold
your breath. Actually, I wouldn't even expect it in the next version
after this 2007 version. They rarely fix little things like this. They
always focus on the Next Big Thing and ignore the little things that just
bug us. There are still some bugs in Windows XP that I remember
complaining about in DOS 3.2.
 
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Andrew Watt [MVP]

I capture info in Quick Notes all day long. But I don't have the title
display in Quick Notes (quite frankly, I don't know if you can...) and
I'm getting a problem when I get into the main application when I view
a page created originally as a Quick Note. I can't rename the Title
just using the tab (ideally, just clicking on it twice, like changing
icon names, or right-clicking and choosing the Rename option) so i have
to use the View Titles Option in the Format Menu.

I assume that you are using OneNote 2007. I don't think you can
display the title in a Side Note in Beta 2 except if you move to
Untitled Notes and work from there. I reported the change in Side Note
behaviour as a bug / undesirable change when Beta 2 came out. I
preferred the OneNote 2003 norms.

If you don't like the change, report a bug.
Why, by the way, is the View Titles Option not in the VIEW MENU??????

I don't know. It was on the View menu in OneNote 2003 (although not
called Show Title). I can't see how it is viewed as "formatting".
Anyway, the Title Section shows up as an overlay on the stuff I'd
copied into the Quick Note. Very annoying. I have to manually move
the container with the original data in it so I can view the Title
correctly. Please help! Thanks.

I agree. The Page Header is no longer a separate area in a Side Note
so if you paste or type at the top of the page in a new Side Note and
later create a title for the page the title overlays the other
material. Not good.

I suggest you sign up on http://connect.microsoft.com, join the
OneNote program and report the features you don't like as bugs.

Andrew Watt MVP
 
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ricochet

Andrew,

Thanks for the sane response.

I don't actually want to type in a page title in the Quick Note. I
just want the text/data container to move down automatically when I
choose to view the Page Title / Header, and KEEP the title I type in,
whether it's displayed on the page or not.

I have signed up for connect, and I will submit these as bugs, but I
started this thread b/c I thought there was a chance I was doing
something wrong with the Page Titles that gave it this behavior.
Thanks.
 
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Grant Robertson

Grant Robertson

Anything specific in mind?

One that still gets to me:

If you read anything off of a floppy disk - in any program whatsoever, or
even just to list the files - then you must leave that floppy disk in the
drive till you shut down the computer or it will take forever to get a
file listing for any other drive in any other program. Windows will want
to re-read the FAT on the floppy before it will do anything else, even if
you are just trying to read a file off of the hard drive and the floppy
is not the default or have any other reason to be read at all.

Granted, this doesn't come up very often now but it does rear its head
every once in a while. This is how I know Microsoft is lying when they
say there is no DOS in Windows XP. If they didn't just re-use that code
then why does it have the exact same bug?

Don't even waste your breath Patrick and all you Most Vocal
Proselytizers...
Let me guess... It's a feature and the customers demanded to get the
benefit of it even in Windows XP.
 
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Rainald Taesler

Grant Robertson in (e-mail address removed) shared these
words of wisdom:
One that still gets to me:

If you read anything off of a floppy disk - in any program
whatsoever, or even just to list the files - then you must leave
that
floppy disk in the drive till you shut down the computer or it will
take forever to get a file listing for any other drive in any other
program. Windows will want to re-read the FAT on the floppy before
it
will do anything else, even if you are just trying to read a file
off
of the hard drive and the floppy is not the default or have any
other
reason to be read at all.

Interesting.
I cannot remember to have ever been bitten by that since days of DOS
2.x
And I checked it in my desktop as well as my notebook right now.
Could not reproduce what you report.
Let me guess... It's a feature and the customers demanded to get the
benefit of it even in Windows XP.

ROFLMAO

Rainald
P.S. In the SPAM basket I found your mail with your paper on
hanwriting. Really nice. Many thanks. Unfortunately I lost the mail so
that I could not reply :-( :-(
 

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