Jagged presentation of text/fonts in Powerpoint

[Werner Mueller]

Dear Newsgroup,

I have a big problem with MS-Word-objects (in fact it are word-tables), that
I embedd in a Powerpoint-presantation.
I use Powerpoint (V10.6804 SP3) and W2K (but also XP).
During development of the slides the writing inside the table looks OK,
but when I start the presentation(1024x768 pixel), the writings in Arial 10
(bold) inside of the word-object are strongly jagged and some distances
between single letters are bigger than anticipated. Some of the letters are
not readable.
You may argue, that Arial 10 is to small for presentation; BUT
if I write the same text in Arial 10 (bold) for example in the header
(text-area) of the slide,
the writing is clear (not jagged) during presentation.

Any helping idea (without telling me,
- not to use so small fonts and
- not to use embedded word-objects)?

Kind regards
Werner

 

[Echo S]

Make sure the Word object is set to an equal aspect ratio.

To do so, right-click the Word object on the slide, choose Format Object. On
the Size tab, set to 100% x 100% (or some other equal proportion).

Does that fix it?

If not, then copy the Word object, pull the original off the edge of the
slide so it won't show in slide show view, right-click, Format Object, and
in the Size tab, set to 5% x 5% so it won't throw off the view when you
scroll from slide to slide while editing.

Now, back to the copy on the slide -- select it and ungroup it until you
can't ungroup any more. Does that resolve the problem?

 

[TAJ Simmons]

Werner

What Echo said ... but also...

If you 'un-group' the word table... then the jaggies will go away

Cheers
TAJ Simmons
microsoft powerpoint mvp

awesome - powerpoint backgrounds,
http://www.awesomebackgrounds.com
free powerpoint templates, tutorials, hints, tips and more...

Make sure the Word object is set to an equal aspect ratio.

To do so, right-click the Word object on the slide, choose Format Object.
On the Size tab, set to 100% x 100% (or some other equal proportion).

Does that fix it?

If not, then copy the Word object, pull the original off the edge of the
slide so it won't show in slide show view, right-click, Format Object, and
in the Size tab, set to 5% x 5% so it won't throw off the view when you
scroll from slide to slide while editing.

Now, back to the copy on the slide -- select it and ungroup it until you
can't ungroup any more. Does that resolve the problem?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Dear Newsgroup,

I have a big problem with MS-Word-objects (in fact it are word-tables),
that
I embedd in a Powerpoint-presantation.
I use Powerpoint (V10.6804 SP3) and W2K (but also XP).
During development of the slides the writing inside the table looks OK,
but when I start the presentation(1024x768 pixel), the writings in Arial
10
(bold) inside of the word-object are strongly jagged and some distances
between single letters are bigger than anticipated. Some of the letters
are
not readable.
You may argue, that Arial 10 is to small for presentation; BUT
if I write the same text in Arial 10 (bold) for example in the header
(text-area) of the slide,
the writing is clear (not jagged) during presentation.

Any helping idea (without telling me,
- not to use so small fonts and
- not to use embedded word-objects)?

Kind regards
Werner

 

[Werner Mueller]

Dear Echo, dear TAJ Simmons,

thank you for your ideas.
I am sorry, but both procedures made the look of the Word-objects even
worse!
As far as I understand, the 'ungrouping' makes a kind of a picture of the
word-table.
With this font size the developing-screen AND the presentatin - screen
(both) look even more jagged.

Sorry!

Werner

Werner

What Echo said ... but also...

If you 'un-group' the word table... then the jaggies will go away

Cheers
TAJ Simmons
microsoft powerpoint mvp

awesome - powerpoint backgrounds,
http://www.awesomebackgrounds.com
free powerpoint templates, tutorials, hints, tips and more...

Make sure the Word object is set to an equal aspect ratio.

To do so, right-click the Word object on the slide, choose Format Object.
On the Size tab, set to 100% x 100% (or some other equal proportion).

Does that fix it?

If not, then copy the Word object, pull the original off the edge of the
slide so it won't show in slide show view, right-click, Format Object, and
in the Size tab, set to 5% x 5% so it won't throw off the view when you
scroll from slide to slide while editing.

Now, back to the copy on the slide -- select it and ungroup it until you
can't ungroup any more. Does that resolve the problem?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Dear Newsgroup,

I have a big problem with MS-Word-objects (in fact it are word-tables),
that
I embedd in a Powerpoint-presantation.
I use Powerpoint (V10.6804 SP3) and W2K (but also XP).
During development of the slides the writing inside the table looks OK,
but when I start the presentation(1024x768 pixel), the writings in Arial
10
(bold) inside of the word-object are strongly jagged and some distances
between single letters are bigger than anticipated. Some of the letters
are
not readable.
You may argue, that Arial 10 is to small for presentation; BUT
if I write the same text in Arial 10 (bold) for example in the header
(text-area) of the slide,
the writing is clear (not jagged) during presentation.

Any helping idea (without telling me,
- not to use so small fonts and
- not to use embedded word-objects)?

Kind regards
Werner

 

[Echo S]

Hmmmm.

You might try copying the Word table on the slide and Edit | Paste Special,
choose PNG.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Dear Echo, dear TAJ Simmons,

thank you for your ideas.
I am sorry, but both procedures made the look of the Word-objects even
worse!
As far as I understand, the 'ungrouping' makes a kind of a picture of the
word-table.
With this font size the developing-screen AND the presentatin - screen
(both) look even more jagged.

Sorry!

Werner

Newsbeitrag

Werner

What Echo said ... but also...

If you 'un-group' the word table... then the jaggies will go away

Cheers
TAJ Simmons
microsoft powerpoint mvp

awesome - powerpoint backgrounds,
http://www.awesomebackgrounds.com
free powerpoint templates, tutorials, hints, tips and more...

Make sure the Word object is set to an equal aspect ratio.

To do so, right-click the Word object on the slide, choose Format Object.
On the Size tab, set to 100% x 100% (or some other equal proportion).

Does that fix it?

If not, then copy the Word object, pull the original off the edge of
the
slide so it won't show in slide show view, right-click, Format Object, and
in the Size tab, set to 5% x 5% so it won't throw off the view when you
scroll from slide to slide while editing.

Now, back to the copy on the slide -- select it and ungroup it until
you
can't ungroup any more. Does that resolve the problem?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Dear Newsgroup,

I have a big problem with MS-Word-objects (in fact it are
word-tables),
that
I embedd in a Powerpoint-presantation.
I use Powerpoint (V10.6804 SP3) and W2K (but also XP).
During development of the slides the writing inside the table looks
OK,
but when I start the presentation(1024x768 pixel), the writings in Arial
10
(bold) inside of the word-object are strongly jagged and some
distances
between single letters are bigger than anticipated. Some of the
letters
are
not readable.
You may argue, that Arial 10 is to small for presentation; BUT
if I write the same text in Arial 10 (bold) for example in the header
(text-area) of the slide,
the writing is clear (not jagged) during presentation.

Any helping idea (without telling me,
- not to use so small fonts and
- not to use embedded word-objects)?

Kind regards
Werner

 

[Werner Mueller]

Dear Newsgroup,

I found an additional problem with respect to the presentation of slides
and jagged text.
- If you create a diagram with labeled columns and labeled rows and you just
present the produced diagram (not ungrouped or touched in any way), the
presentation looks good.
- BUT, if you simply copy the whole slide and add a user defined animation
that way, that you simply show the diagram on mouse-click,
the text (fonts) look jagged. Taking away (deleting) the animation, and the
fonts look good again.

Do you have any idea, how this can happen??

Kind regards
Werner

Dear Echo, dear TAJ Simmons,

thank you for your ideas.
I am sorry, but both procedures made the look of the Word-objects even
worse!
As far as I understand, the 'ungrouping' makes a kind of a picture of the
word-table.
With this font size the developing-screen AND the presentatin - screen
(both) look even more jagged.

Sorry!

Werner

Werner

What Echo said ... but also...

If you 'un-group' the word table... then the jaggies will go away

Cheers
TAJ Simmons
microsoft powerpoint mvp

awesome - powerpoint backgrounds,
http://www.awesomebackgrounds.com
free powerpoint templates, tutorials, hints, tips and more...

Make sure the Word object is set to an equal aspect ratio.

To do so, right-click the Word object on the slide, choose Format Object.
On the Size tab, set to 100% x 100% (or some other equal proportion).

Does that fix it?

If not, then copy the Word object, pull the original off the edge of the
slide so it won't show in slide show view, right-click, Format Object, and
in the Size tab, set to 5% x 5% so it won't throw off the view when you
scroll from slide to slide while editing.

Now, back to the copy on the slide -- select it and ungroup it until you
can't ungroup any more. Does that resolve the problem?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Dear Newsgroup,

I have a big problem with MS-Word-objects (in fact it are word-tables),
that
I embedd in a Powerpoint-presantation.
I use Powerpoint (V10.6804 SP3) and W2K (but also XP).
During development of the slides the writing inside the table looks OK,
but when I start the presentation(1024x768 pixel), the writings in Arial
10
(bold) inside of the word-object are strongly jagged and some distances
between single letters are bigger than anticipated. Some of the letters
are
not readable.
You may argue, that Arial 10 is to small for presentation; BUT
if I write the same text in Arial 10 (bold) for example in the header
(text-area) of the slide,
the writing is clear (not jagged) during presentation.

Any helping idea (without telling me,
- not to use so small fonts and
- not to use embedded word-objects)?

Kind regards
Werner

 

[Echo S]

This is actually a known issue -- animated text often gets the jaggies where
static text doesn't. The only real resolution is not to use animation.

Alternatively, you can often create an image out of the text (or, in your
case, the diagram) and animate that. Text in images doesn't usually get
jagged.

To create an image, use the Paste Special technique I mentioned in my
previous post in this thread.
--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Dear Newsgroup,

I found an additional problem with respect to the presentation of slides
and jagged text.
- If you create a diagram with labeled columns and labeled rows and you
just
present the produced diagram (not ungrouped or touched in any way), the
presentation looks good.
- BUT, if you simply copy the whole slide and add a user defined animation
that way, that you simply show the diagram on mouse-click,
the text (fonts) look jagged. Taking away (deleting) the animation, and
the
fonts look good again.

Do you have any idea, how this can happen??

Kind regards
Werner

Newsbeitrag

Dear Echo, dear TAJ Simmons,

thank you for your ideas.
I am sorry, but both procedures made the look of the Word-objects even
worse!
As far as I understand, the 'ungrouping' makes a kind of a picture of the
word-table.
With this font size the developing-screen AND the presentatin - screen
(both) look even more jagged.

Sorry!

Werner

Werner

What Echo said ... but also...

If you 'un-group' the word table... then the jaggies will go away

Cheers
TAJ Simmons
microsoft powerpoint mvp

awesome - powerpoint backgrounds,
http://www.awesomebackgrounds.com
free powerpoint templates, tutorials, hints, tips and more...


Make sure the Word object is set to an equal aspect ratio.

To do so, right-click the Word object on the slide, choose Format Object.
On the Size tab, set to 100% x 100% (or some other equal proportion).

Does that fix it?

If not, then copy the Word object, pull the original off the edge of the
slide so it won't show in slide show view, right-click, Format
Object, and
in the Size tab, set to 5% x 5% so it won't throw off the view when you
scroll from slide to slide while editing.

Now, back to the copy on the slide -- select it and ungroup it until you
can't ungroup any more. Does that resolve the problem?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Dear Newsgroup,

I have a big problem with MS-Word-objects (in fact it are word-tables),
that
I embedd in a Powerpoint-presantation.
I use Powerpoint (V10.6804 SP3) and W2K (but also XP).
During development of the slides the writing inside the table looks OK,
but when I start the presentation(1024x768 pixel), the writings in Arial
10
(bold) inside of the word-object are strongly jagged and some distances
between single letters are bigger than anticipated. Some of the letters
are
not readable.
You may argue, that Arial 10 is to small for presentation; BUT
if I write the same text in Arial 10 (bold) for example in the
header
(text-area) of the slide,
the writing is clear (not jagged) during presentation.

Any helping idea (without telling me,
- not to use so small fonts and
- not to use embedded word-objects)?

Kind regards
Werner