Japanese language and Word

F

Fred

Can Japanese be used sucessfully in the Mac version of Word 2004 (the
US version)?
Do I need a certain version of word for this capability (student,
standard, professional)?
Most importantly, does it have the capability for inputting Ruby text,
or furigana?

Thanks.
 
J

John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]

Hi Fred:

Furigana is only available with the Japanese version of Office.

Left-to-right Kanzi will work in the American version, but good luck typing
it :)

Word will handle double-byte characters (all characters internally in Word
are "double byte") but typing them without the Japanese user interface would
be the pits, and you don't get vertical text.

Cheers


Can Japanese be used sucessfully in the Mac version of Word 2004 (the
US version)?
Do I need a certain version of word for this capability (student,
standard, professional)?
Most importantly, does it have the capability for inputting Ruby text,
or furigana?

Thanks.

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me unless I ask you to.

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Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410
 
F

Fred

I'm kinda confused. You mentioned the "Japanese user interface" and
trouble typing Kanji. In Mac OS X I am not familiar with a special
Japanese user interface and typing Kanji is very easy. Is there
something with the US version of Word for Mac that makes it difficult?

As for furigana, my work computer has the US version of Win XP and the
US version of Word 2003. Not only can I enter Kanji into Word ok
(Japanese language is set up on my computer), I can input furigana
(called ruby in Word).

If I opt for the Japanese version of Word, will the menus be in
Japanese only, or can they be switched back and forth between English
and Japanese like the other menus in OS X?

Thanks.
 
J

John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]

Sorry Fred:

My knowledge of Japanese is not sufficient to go any further.

You may want to check here:
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/resources/resources.aspx?pid=resourcekits&rk=of
ficex&article=/mac/officex/ork/International_Configuration.xml

And here:
http://www.microsoft.com/japan/office/default.mspx

I have cross-posted this message to a couple of Japanese groups. Check back
in a couple of days: if anyone knows, they will.

Cheers


I'm kinda confused. You mentioned the "Japanese user interface" and
trouble typing Kanji. In Mac OS X I am not familiar with a special
Japanese user interface and typing Kanji is very easy. Is there
something with the US version of Word for Mac that makes it difficult?

As for furigana, my work computer has the US version of Win XP and the
US version of Word 2003. Not only can I enter Kanji into Word ok
(Japanese language is set up on my computer), I can input furigana
(called ruby in Word).

If I opt for the Japanese version of Word, will the menus be in
Japanese only, or can they be switched back and forth between English
and Japanese like the other menus in OS X?

Thanks.

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J

JR K Yoshikawa

If you want both English UI and Japanese UI.
English Version with MUI is good for you.

here is how to use furigana in US English Word 2003

Highlight Target Character,
then Format > Asian Kayout > Phonetic Guide > Enter or select budy text > the click OK



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J

John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]

Yoshikawa-san:

Thanks, but he's in Macintosh Word. We have some, but not all, of the MUI
functionality.

Is there anyone with a Japanese copy of Mac Word on the list?

Domo arigato...


If you want both English UI and Japanese UI.
English Version with MUI is good for you.

here is how to use furigana in US English Word 2003

Highlight Target Character,
then Format > Asian Kayout > Phonetic Guide > Enter or select budy text > the
click OK



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W

wayne ingalls

John said:
Is there anyone with a Japanese copy of Mac Word on the list?

How about Word vX for Mac, US version? I looked in the help
files and found a mention of Ruby input. To enable this I had to
install the Microsoft Language Register and the Japanese
Proofing Tools from the Value Pack Installer. Next step is to
find the MS Language Register app, sitting inside the Utilities
folder inside the MS Office folder. Drop Word's application icon
onto the Language Register, then switch from English to Japanese
in the dialog box that appears. You have now enabled the
additional editing features for Japanese. When you want to enter
furigana, select the text and use Format/Phonetic Guide.

I would assume that if these features are available to me in
Word X, they should remain in Word 2004.

hth,
-wayne
 
P

Paul Berkowitz

How about Word vX for Mac, US version? I looked in the help
files and found a mention of Ruby input. To enable this I had to
install the Microsoft Language Register and the Japanese
Proofing Tools from the Value Pack Installer. Next step is to
find the MS Language Register app, sitting inside the Utilities
folder inside the MS Office folder. Drop Word's application icon
onto the Language Register, then switch from English to Japanese
in the dialog box that appears. You have now enabled the
additional editing features for Japanese. When you want to enter
furigana, select the text and use Format/Phonetic Guide.

I would assume that if these features are available to me in
Word X, they should remain in Word 2004.

Yes, although the location is different. There's no Value Pack with 2004. If
you did the Easy Install of Office, you'll find the Microsoft Language
Register already in the Additional Tools folder of Microsoft Office 2004.
(If you did a Custom Install that excluded it, go back to your Office 2004
CD, click the Setup Assistant, select Custom Install, choose either Office
Tools component or just the Language Register within it.)

Enter "Language Register" then choose "Enable Japanese language features" in
Word's Help for full details.

Yes, the so-called "Microsoft Language Register" is the way to get Japanese
features in US (and, I think other European) versions of Office. It's only
for Japanese - there's no other language (such as Chinese) on offer. Very
handy for those who need it.

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F

Fred

As of now, I do not own a copy of Word for Mac. I suppose the only
version I can purchase now is the 2004 version.

I have also discovered the menus on the Japanese version of word cannot
be changed into English. What a bummer.

I just want to make sure I understood the above replies correctly.
From what Mr. Berkowitz wrote, the US version of Word 2004 does have
the capabilities to do Rubys, right? All I need to do is enable
Japanese language features when I install word.

Now, which version of Word 2004 do I need? Will this work with all
versions? Student, standard, and professional?

Thanks.
 
W

wayne ingalls

Fred said:
Now, which version of Word 2004 do I need? Will this work with all
versions? Student, standard, and professional?

All versions will include the same functionality for working
with Japanese text. The student version is discounted for
students, the professional version includes Virtual PC (at least
it did last time I looked).

hth
-wayne
 

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