Landscape Orientation not oriented properly

[CEIBoneLady]

Version: 2008
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Processor: Intel

I have a document that includes both text and images. Some of these images must be oriented in the Landscape format, which is not a problem. Using section breaks, I can accomplish this quite easily.

My problem arises in the formatting when I print my document. The top of an image is on the right edge of the paper and the cutline falls on the left edge. For binding and simple read-ability the top of the image should be on the left side or the binding edge. The page setup section has two orientations: portrait and landscape (the image depicts the image as I described above).

Now in older versions there are three options: portrait; landscape oriented to the right: and landscape oriented to the left. As a matter of fact, in the Formatting Palette, under Orientation, there ARE three options. But the third one is grayed out and, as of yet, I have not been able to unlock it.

If anyone can help me, I'd greatly appreciate it!

 

[CyberTaz]

My first guess would be that your printer driver doesn't support both
options. You might check the mfr's site for an updated driver or try a
different printer if you have one available. You might also try the OS X or
Office PDF option, although that's going to produce separate PDF files for
each section that changes orientation. Combining the PDFs in Preview or any
number of other utilities, however is a simple enough process -- it's just
an extra step in the workflow which might be avoided with a full-featured
PDF generator.

 

[CEIBoneLady]

The driver suggestion is quite valid, however we have other computers that print to the same printer and they use the same driver that I have. And they have the three options. (We downloaded the driver again, just to be thorough and it didn't change anything.) The only difference between my machine and the others is the version of Word and OSX 10.5.8. I have the newest 2008 Word and they all have 2004. It would seem that this is a quirk with the new version of Word.

In the past, I've used a pdf program to do exactly what you suggested. I usually don't mind the extra step, but we're on a time crunch for this report and we need to save as much time as possible. I was hoping to get a solution that allows me to print a finished product directly from Word. It doesn't seem like that's going to be possible.

Thanks for the reply! Much appreciated.

 

[CyberTaz]

Well, this is interesting :>\

I hadn't noticed this before because I rarely print from my MBP which is
running Leopard 10.5.8, but I now see that in Word (12.2.0) there are only
the single Portrait & Landscape icons in Page Setup. However, on my G5
running Tiger (10.4.11) with the exact same version of Office & the exact
same printer drivers there are the *2* Landscape icons.

I'll check into this & see if I can come up with an explanation.

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

 

[CyberTaz]

OK ‹ This is what I've been told but even MacBU doesn't have an *absolute*
explanation, so don't take this as a "who-struck-John" response

Office 2008 apps are Carbon-based & employ a custom page setup routine
utilizing options provided by the printer driver as passed along by the OS.
It "appears" that Apple has dropped support for the reverse landscape option
in Carbon-based custom print dialog extensions. The net result is that even
though the printer has the capability it isn't being included in the options
available to some programs ‹ Office apps are among those.

This explanation seems to make sense because both Word 2004 & 2008 have the
option available when running on Tiger (10.4.11) but the exact same versions
of Office do not have the option when running on Leopard (10.5.8).

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

 

[Phillip Jones, C.E.T.]

I've always wondered what was the benefit, with the exception of
printing envelopes, the necessity of having both. if you need for it to
be pointed the other direction in a document just turn it around.

Now it is needed in printing envelopes, because you always want the flap
open and opposite the edge two which the envelope is inserted.

 

[CyberTaz]

....and you're good with your headers at the bottom, your footers at the top
& both appearing to be printed upside down? And with inside margins of
facing pages on the outside or vice versa?

Envelopes, OTOH can be fed either direction so there's no need to be able to
reverse the print orientation.

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

 

[CEIBoneLady]

Thanks for the explanation. I don't suppose there's a work-around for this dilema? (Well, other than switching operating systems or printing off someone else's computer) My immediate need for the right-side-up printing has passed, but will there be a way to correctly orient horizontal pages the next time I need to print a draft? I've always been a huge fan of Word (and my company uses it for everything), I would hate to think that there will never be a solution to such a simple issue (at least what seems like a simple issue).

 

[CEIBoneLady]

Just thought of something else:

Have you used Word 2008 with the newest version? Would upgrading to Snow Leopard fix this?

 

[CyberTaz]

Well, "never" is a long time I don't know whether there will be changes
that will address it for Office 2008, but you can submit to MS through Help>
Send Feedback to plead the case... they're aware of it, but the more
requests the better. It wouldn't hurt to put a bug in Apple's ear, too.
That's where the breakdown "appears" to be -- Word can call for anything it
wants, but if the OS won't supply it there's nothing MS can do.

 

[CyberTaz]

That I can't say -- haven't ventured into 10.6 as yet & don't have access to
any systems running it :-}

 

[John McGhie]

No, what you are seeing is the "New" printing mechanism that is included in
Snow Leopard. Upgrading will make Office 2008 behave better in several
ways, but that's not one of them.

Just thought of something else:

Have you used Word 2008 with the newest version? Would upgrading to Snow
Leopard fix this?

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