Layering like Illustrator

[tencargarage]

I am frustrated trying to make my own stationery. I designed the
page in Illustrator. Logo upper right - Company data next to the logo
at the bottom address etc and a watermark of the logo in the center.
When I paste it into Word and save as a template or stationery the
images can still be moved or editted.

How can i take this image or create a similar image document in Word -
Save it as a template, stationery or layer what ever it is called and
when I open up a new document all those images are not able to be
moved or editted.

I want to treat this as "layer 0" and all the text on the next layer.

Can I and How can I do this without doing multiple print passes?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Sol Apache]

Hello

All Word has is headers and footers into which you can put logos and
watermarks you do not want to change.

You can also choose your template to have "Different first page" so that the
address and logo does not show up on subsequent pages. You may want the
watermark to show on following pages, so copy that into the header or footer
of page 2.

To see the header or footer of page 2, put a hard page break (shift+enter),
edit the header and/or footer (for example with a page number) then remove
the hard page break. When any of your letters need more than one page then
they will have the header and footer you created, though it will be hidden
until then.

Anything in a header or footer will not move about or be edited accidentally
as they would in the main body of a Word document


Hope this helps

Sol

 

[tencargarage]

Hello

All Word has is headers and footers into which you can put logos and
watermarks you do not want to change.

You can also choose your template to have "Different first page" so that the
address and logo does not show up on subsequent pages. You may want the
watermark to show on following pages, so copy that into the header or footer
of page 2.

To see the header or footer of page 2, put a hard page break (shift+enter),
edit the header and/or footer (for example with a page number) then remove
the hard page break. When any of your letters need more than one page then
they will have the header and footer you created, though it will be hidden
until then.

Anything in a header or footer will not move about or be edited accidentally
as they would in the main body of a Word document

Hope this helps

Sol

Sol

Thanks that is exactly what I wanted to accomplish. One question.
When I pasted/dragged the .PNG images into the header and footers the
text data was dimmed even when I did the print preview. So I
darkened the images and it was OK.

Why did this happen? I saved the original .PSD image as a PNG and did
nothing else.

Rich

 

[tencargarage]

Hello

All Word has is headers and footers into which you can put logos and
watermarks you do not want to change.

You can also choose your template to have "Different first page" so that the
address and logo does not show up on subsequent pages. You may want the
watermark to show on following pages, so copy that into the header or footer
of page 2.

To see the header or footer of page 2, put a hard page break (shift+enter),
edit the header and/or footer (for example with a page number) then remove
the hard page break. When any of your letters need more than one page then
they will have the header and footer you created, though it will be hidden
until then.

Anything in a header or footer will not move about or be edited accidentally
as they would in the main body of a Word document

Hope this helps

Sol

Actually I spoke too soon. I saved the document as a template.
Opened it as a new document from the project gallery however I can
still select the header and footers. Do I have to lock these
somehow?

 

[John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]]

Add a section break to your document, then Tools>Protect Document>Section
1...

Leave section 2 unprotected so users can type in it.

Read up on Headers and footers and section breaks and document protection in
the help for more information.

Cheers

Actually I spoke too soon. I saved the document as a template.
Opened it as a new document from the project gallery however I can
still select the header and footers. Do I have to lock these
somehow?

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[Sol Apache]

You should have tried printing before darkening the images in the header and
footer because Word usually keeps the header and footer looking dimmed. When
you are in the header or footer you will notice that the main text is dimmed
while your pictures and text in the H/F are not. They should print out OK so
long as you are using RGB and if the images are .PNG then they will
definitely be RGB.

AFAIK you cannot lock the header and footer unless you turn your template
into a form. In a form you can also lock sections in the main body, and if
you use fields (and lock the document using the lock on the form toolbar)
then users can only go from one field to another and not touch any of the
other text.

However, I am not sure that you want your template to be a form, and having
unchanging data such as address and logos in a header or footer protects
them from inadvertent change while the user is working on the main body.
Most users don't know about headers and footers.

HTH

 

[Sol Apache]

Sorry, did not see John McG's answer. Take his advice. He is an MVP and
knows a lot more than I do.

 

[tencargarage]

Sorry, did not see John McG's answer. Take his advice. He is an MVP and
knows a lot more than I do.

Thanks for all of your help. It is working but I have a fine tuning
question.
I created a 3rd section for the body text . The cursor is inserted at
the point where I expect the section to start (this section is not
checked as protected).

When I click OK (document protect). The cursor drops down a couple of
lines and that becomes the start of section 3.
This leaves a lot of "white space" between the header and top of the
body section. Is there a way to specify "space above / below
sections"
as is the case with paragraphs to minimize this gap?

I did not see any place to do this. Ironically the space between the
bottom of text section and the footer is OK.

Compounding the problem the header puts a line or two at the bottom of
the header section. I can see the size of the header box is
dynamic since it scales as I drag the inserted items handles to grow
or shrink them.

So the combination of the two is leaving too much space.
Thanks again.

Rich

 

[John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]]

A section break is part of a paragraph: it takes whatever space above and
space below you have set for the style of the paragraph to which the section
break is attached.

If a paragraph (or its component section break) skips to the next page, Word
decides whether to suppress space above depending on what caused the page
break. If you cased the page break with "Page Break Before" or a page break
character, Word prints the space above. If Word threw the page break as a
result of "Keep with Next" and Keep Lines Together, it will suppress the
space above.

Generally we recommend 0 Space Above in body text styles, to prevent spacing
problems. Heading styles should have space above, with the exception of
Heading 1, which will always appear at the top of a page.

The size of the header or footer box is what you specify in
Format>Document>Margins. However, if that specification is too small, Word
dynamically expands the header or footer areas inwards towards the centre of
the sheet to allow room for the content of the header or footer.

Hope this helps

Thanks for all of your help. It is working but I have a fine tuning
question.
I created a 3rd section for the body text . The cursor is inserted at
the point where I expect the section to start (this section is not
checked as protected).

When I click OK (document protect). The cursor drops down a couple of
lines and that becomes the start of section 3.
This leaves a lot of "white space" between the header and top of the
body section. Is there a way to specify "space above / below
sections"
as is the case with paragraphs to minimize this gap?

I did not see any place to do this. Ironically the space between the
bottom of text section and the footer is OK.

Compounding the problem the header puts a line or two at the bottom of
the header section. I can see the size of the header box is
dynamic since it scales as I drag the inserted items handles to grow
or shrink them.

So the combination of the two is leaving too much space.
Thanks again.

Rich

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Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email
me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie <[email protected]>
Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant
Technical Writer.
Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410