License agreement (EULA)

[Yosemite]

Can someone please post the EULA? I need clarification on a fine point
on License Agreement. Or better yet I need "Authoritative" word on
running one license on my desktop at work and using the same license to
install on my portable, to take work home. It seems to depend on which
way the wind is blowing the day the software is purchased whether this
is allowed.

 

[JE McGimpsey]

Can someone please post the EULA? I need clarification on a fine point
on License Agreement. Or better yet I need "Authoritative" word on
running one license on my desktop at work and using the same license to
install on my portable, to take work home. It seems to depend on which
way the wind is blowing the day the software is purchased whether this
is allowed.

AFAIK there isn't a single EULA for all versions, and since you don't
say which version you're using, I wouldn't even know which one to post.

However, I *can* say definitively that the standard version EULAs for
MacOffice v.X and MacOffice 2004 do allow installation on one desktop
and one laptop as long as both are used by you, so if you have one of
those two versions, your situation is perfectly legal.

I've never seen any variation on that part of the license.

 

[mmmmark]

AFAIK there isn't a single EULA for all versions, and since you don't
say which version you're using, I wouldn't even know which one to post.

However, I *can* say definitively that the standard version EULAs for
MacOffice v.X and MacOffice 2004 do allow installation on one desktop
and one laptop as long as both are used by you, so if you have one of
those two versions, your situation is perfectly legal.

I've never seen any variation on that part of the license.

It DOES mention that they cannot both be used at the same time. Just to
clear up any loopholes that might be running through someone's mind.

-Mark

 

[JE McGimpsey]

It DOES mention that they cannot both be used at the same time. Just to
clear up any loopholes that might be running through someone's mind.

Hmm... my Office 2004 license doesn't say that. Rather it says the
second copy is for the exclusive use of the primary user of the desktop
installation.

I have frequently used Office on both my desktop and laptop at the same
time, and it certainly appears to me that the copy on my desktop can be
legally used by an employee of my company while I'm using the copy on
the laptop, as long as I'm still the primary user of the desktop copy.

 

[mmmmark]

Hmm... my Office 2004 license doesn't say that. Rather it says the
second copy is for the exclusive use of the primary user of the desktop
installation.

I have frequently used Office on both my desktop and laptop at the same
time, and it certainly appears to me that the copy on my desktop can be
legally used by an employee of my company while I'm using the copy on
the laptop, as long as I'm still the primary user of the desktop copy.

Well.....maybe I'm mixing metaphors here. I know that the student/teacher
version actually checks to see if multiple copies are running with the same
ID at the same time. If so, it gives an error and will not run.

I haven't used a non-student/teacher version for a couple of versions now,
but I _thought_ it did something to prevent multiple concurrent users as
well.

Anyone have the scoop?

-Mark

 

[JE McGimpsey]

Well.....maybe I'm mixing metaphors here. I know that the student/teacher
version actually checks to see if multiple copies are running with the same
ID at the same time. If so, it gives an error and will not run.

That's the anti-piracy mechanism, not the EULA. It only works on (some)
intranets, and when it works, seems to be more restrictive than the EULA.

I haven't used a non-student/teacher version for a couple of versions now,
but I _thought_ it did something to prevent multiple concurrent users as
well.

Both the Standard and S/T versions use the same anti-piracy scheme.

 

[mmmmark]

That's the anti-piracy mechanism, not the EULA. It only works on (some)
intranets, and when it works, seems to be more restrictive than the EULA.


Both the Standard and S/T versions use the same anti-piracy scheme.

You don't think it enforces the EULA's restrictions? Methinks that you are
probably reading the EULA too liberally. They are supposed to coincide.

 

[JE McGimpsey]

You don't think it enforces the EULA's restrictions? Methinks that you are
probably reading the EULA too liberally. They are supposed to coincide.

They are? Perhaps, but it certainly wasn't engineered that way.

However, since the EULA specifically states that it constitutes the
entire license agreement, nothing restricted or allowed by the
anti-piracy mechanism (APM) may be used to interpret the EULA (other
than that the software is provided "as-is").

I generally prefer to give MS attorneys credit for being precise and
comprehensive. Since they make a clear distinction between the licensee
and the primary user, and since they mention nothing about simultaneous
use, I interpret their language to mean that they did not contractually
restrict such use.

FWIW, I use one license for Office on a desktop and a laptop, on an
internal network, all the time, and I've never had the APM prevent me
from using them simultaneously.

 

[mmmmark]

They are? Perhaps, but it certainly wasn't engineered that way.

However, since the EULA specifically states that it constitutes the
entire license agreement, nothing restricted or allowed by the
anti-piracy mechanism (APM) may be used to interpret the EULA (other
than that the software is provided "as-is").

I generally prefer to give MS attorneys credit for being precise and
comprehensive. Since they make a clear distinction between the licensee
and the primary user, and since they mention nothing about simultaneous
use, I interpret their language to mean that they did not contractually
restrict such use.

FWIW, I use one license for Office on a desktop and a laptop, on an
internal network, all the time, and I've never had the APM prevent me
from using them simultaneously.

For the record, I'm not claiming super-human lawyer-interpreting powers.
;-)

It is interesting that the standard version does not have "an enforcement
arm" like the S/T version does.

I'm all for getting your money's worth out of an EULA.

 

[JE McGimpsey]

It is interesting that the standard version does not have "an enforcement
arm" like the S/T version does.

Oh, it does, same as S/T. It just doesn't always work...

You can Google old posts from the m.p.mac.office* groups for more
details.

 

[Clive Huggan]

They are? Perhaps, but it certainly wasn't engineered that way.

However, since the EULA specifically states that it constitutes the
entire license agreement, nothing restricted or allowed by the
anti-piracy mechanism (APM) may be used to interpret the EULA (other
than that the software is provided "as-is").

I generally prefer to give MS attorneys credit for being precise and
comprehensive. Since they make a clear distinction between the licensee
and the primary user, and since they mention nothing about simultaneous
use, I interpret their language to mean that they did not contractually
restrict such use.

FWIW, I use one license for Office on a desktop and a laptop, on an
internal network, all the time, and I've never had the APM prevent me
from using them simultaneously.

FWIW, I have PowerBooks only (no desktop Mac) on an AirPort network, and a
separate licence is required for each ­ otherwise the standard warning
message comes up (which I found when I mis-identified which one I had
reinstalled after a hard drive failure ­ I was grateful for the notes on
your website about re-assigning the serial number, JE).

Cheers,
Clive Huggan
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