Limitations on Rules?

[Vik]

Hello,
I am using Outlook 2003 with server rules enabled.
Are there limitations on how many rules can be established?

Its seems I recently had to delete a few older rules in order to create
newer ones.

We are using Exchange 2003, with default storage settings;

Please advice

Vik

 

[Roady [MVP]]

Yes, the limit is 32KB of rules. You cannot modify this limit. Disabled
rules do not count for the limit.

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[Vik]

Any third party apps which maybe can assist enlarging the 32KB limit ??

Yes, the limit is 32KB of rules. You cannot modify this limit. Disabled
rules do not count for the limit.

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
www.howto-outlook.com

Tips of the month:
-Navigation Pane Tips & Tricks
-Create an Office 2003 CD slipstreamed with Service Pack 1

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Hello,
I am using Outlook 2003 with server rules enabled.
Are there limitations on how many rules can be established?

Its seems I recently had to delete a few older rules in order to create
newer ones.

We are using Exchange 2003, with default storage settings;

Please advice

Vik

 

[Roady [MVP]]

"You cannot modify this limit"

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
www.howto-outlook.com

Tips of the month:
-Navigation Pane Tips & Tricks
-Create an Office 2003 CD slipstreamed with Service Pack 1

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Any third party apps which maybe can assist enlarging the 32KB limit ??


in
message news:[email protected]...

Yes, the limit is 32KB of rules. You cannot modify this limit. Disabled
rules do not count for the limit.

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
www.howto-outlook.com

Tips of the month:
-Navigation Pane Tips & Tricks
-Create an Office 2003 CD slipstreamed with Service Pack 1

-----

Hello,
I am using Outlook 2003 with server rules enabled.
Are there limitations on how many rules can be established?

Its seems I recently had to delete a few older rules in order to create
newer ones.

We are using Exchange 2003, with default storage settings;

Please advice

Vik

 

[John Collins]

Since this has been a problem through all versions of Exchange and Outlook
has Microsoft ever thought about increasing this limit or otherwise fix this
issue?

Regards,

John

"You cannot modify this limit"

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
www.howto-outlook.com

Tips of the month:
-Navigation Pane Tips & Tricks
-Create an Office 2003 CD slipstreamed with Service Pack 1

-----

Any third party apps which maybe can assist enlarging the 32KB limit ??


in
message news:[email protected]...

Yes, the limit is 32KB of rules. You cannot modify this limit. Disabled
rules do not count for the limit.

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
www.howto-outlook.com

Tips of the month:
-Navigation Pane Tips & Tricks
-Create an Office 2003 CD slipstreamed with Service Pack 1

-----
Hello,
I am using Outlook 2003 with server rules enabled.
Are there limitations on how many rules can be established?

Its seems I recently had to delete a few older rules in order to
create
newer ones.

We are using Exchange 2003, with default storage settings;

Please advice

Vik

 

[Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]]

Yes they have and no they won't. Backwards compatibility.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, John Collins asked:

| Since this has been a problem through all versions of Exchange and
| Outlook has Microsoft ever thought about increasing this limit or
| otherwise fix this issue?
|
| Regards,
|
| John
|
|
| "Roady [MVP]" <newsgroups_DELETE_@_DELETE_sparnaaij_NO_._SPAM_net>
| wrote in message || "You cannot modify this limit"
||
|| --
|| Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
|| www.howto-outlook.com
||
|| Tips of the month:
|| -Navigation Pane Tips & Tricks
|| -Create an Office 2003 CD slipstreamed with Service Pack 1
||
|| -----
|| ||| Any third party apps which maybe can assist enlarging the 32KB
||| limit ??
|||
|||
||| "Roady [MVP]" <newsgroups_DELETE_@_DELETE_sparnaaij_NO_._SPAM_net>
||| wrote in
||| message |||| Yes, the limit is 32KB of rules. You cannot modify this limit.
|||| Disabled rules do not count for the limit.
||||
|||| --
|||| Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
|||| www.howto-outlook.com
||||
|||| Tips of the month:
|||| -Navigation Pane Tips & Tricks
|||| -Create an Office 2003 CD slipstreamed with Service Pack 1
||||
|||| -----
|||| ||||| Hello,
||||| I am using Outlook 2003 with server rules enabled.
||||| Are there limitations on how many rules can be established?
|||||
||||| Its seems I recently had to delete a few older rules in order to
||||| create
||||| newer ones.
|||||
||||| We are using Exchange 2003, with default storage settings;
|||||
||||| Please advice
|||||
||||| Vik

 

[Confused]

What and how does increasing the 32kb limit have anything to do with
backwards compatibility?
If the limit is server side then this would have no affect on the client
other than allowing more rules.
If client side, then the server doesnt care if the client has to stop at
32kb or not.
Further more upgrading to a newer client would allow the 32kb of rules
because the newer limits are higher.

??????????

 

[Mark Arnold [MVP]]

The difference between client side and server side is that a client
side rule needs Outlook to be able to process. If they were true
client side you would need to recreate a rule if you moved to a
different PC. All rules are server side in the broad sense. It's just
that server side rules in the sense that you understand them can
process even if you are not logged on to an Outlook session.
That's why there is a 32KB limit on rules.

Does that clear it up any?

What and how does increasing the 32kb limit have anything to do with
backwards compatibility?
If the limit is server side then this would have no affect on the client
other than allowing more rules.
If client side, then the server doesnt care if the client has to stop at
32kb or not.
Further more upgrading to a newer client would allow the 32kb of rules
because the newer limits are higher.

??????????

Yes they have and no they won't. Backwards compatibility.

--?
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, John Collins asked:

| Since this has been a problem through all versions of Exchange and
| Outlook has Microsoft ever thought about increasing this limit or
| otherwise fix this issue?
|
| Regards,
|
| John
|
|
| "Roady [MVP]" <newsgroups_DELETE_@_DELETE_sparnaaij_NO_._SPAM_net>
| wrote in message || "You cannot modify this limit"
||
|| --
|| Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
|| www.howto-outlook.com
||
|| Tips of the month:
|| -Navigation Pane Tips & Tricks
|| -Create an Office 2003 CD slipstreamed with Service Pack 1
||
|| -----
|| ||| Any third party apps which maybe can assist enlarging the 32KB
||| limit ??
|||
|||
||| "Roady [MVP]" <newsgroups_DELETE_@_DELETE_sparnaaij_NO_._SPAM_net>
||| wrote in
||| message |||| Yes, the limit is 32KB of rules. You cannot modify this limit.
|||| Disabled rules do not count for the limit.
||||
|||| --
|||| Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
|||| www.howto-outlook.com
||||
|||| Tips of the month:
|||| -Navigation Pane Tips & Tricks
|||| -Create an Office 2003 CD slipstreamed with Service Pack 1
||||
|||| -----
|||| ||||| Hello,
||||| I am using Outlook 2003 with server rules enabled.
||||| Are there limitations on how many rules can be established?
|||||
||||| Its seems I recently had to delete a few older rules in order to
||||| create
||||| newer ones.
|||||
||||| We are using Exchange 2003, with default storage settings;
|||||
||||| Please advice
|||||
||||| Vik

 

[Confused]

OK.. for the sake of arguement all rules are server side, or at least we'll
assume this.

What does the 32kb limit have to do with backwards compatibilty?
Let's say.. your running EXC2k3 with a 32kb rules limit.
Let's say.. MS releases the new EXC2k what ever with a new 64kb limit and
you decide to upgrade.
All other upgrade issues aside, what would a 32kb rules limit increase do to
make the new version "not" backwards compatibile?
The new version would except the existing used 32kb of rules (which in
theory would make it backwards compatible) and allow for an addition 32kb of
rules to be created.
Still with me?.... now the only senario I can see this being an issue is if
you are running multiple versions at the same time... but wait... how does MS
handle this for AD? Its as simple as saying i don't want to run a 64kb limit
because i'm in "mixed mode" run at 32kb.

My question still remains.... What and how does increasing the 32kb limit
have anything to do with backwards compatibility?

Thanks for the response!

Still..... ??????????

The difference between client side and server side is that a client
side rule needs Outlook to be able to process. If they were true
client side you would need to recreate a rule if you moved to a
different PC. All rules are server side in the broad sense. It's just
that server side rules in the sense that you understand them can
process even if you are not logged on to an Outlook session.
That's why there is a 32KB limit on rules.

Does that clear it up any?

What and how does increasing the 32kb limit have anything to do with
backwards compatibility?
If the limit is server side then this would have no affect on the client
other than allowing more rules.
If client side, then the server doesnt care if the client has to stop at
32kb or not.
Further more upgrading to a newer client would allow the 32kb of rules
because the newer limits are higher.

??????????

Yes they have and no they won't. Backwards compatibility.

--?
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, John Collins asked:

| Since this has been a problem through all versions of Exchange and
| Outlook has Microsoft ever thought about increasing this limit or
| otherwise fix this issue?
|
| Regards,
|
| John
|
|
| "Roady [MVP]" <newsgroups_DELETE_@_DELETE_sparnaaij_NO_._SPAM_net>
| wrote in message || "You cannot modify this limit"
||
|| --
|| Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
|| www.howto-outlook.com
||
|| Tips of the month:
|| -Navigation Pane Tips & Tricks
|| -Create an Office 2003 CD slipstreamed with Service Pack 1
||
|| -----
|| ||| Any third party apps which maybe can assist enlarging the 32KB
||| limit ??
|||
|||
||| "Roady [MVP]" <newsgroups_DELETE_@_DELETE_sparnaaij_NO_._SPAM_net>
||| wrote in
||| message |||| Yes, the limit is 32KB of rules. You cannot modify this limit.
|||| Disabled rules do not count for the limit.
||||
|||| --
|||| Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
|||| www.howto-outlook.com
||||
|||| Tips of the month:
|||| -Navigation Pane Tips & Tricks
|||| -Create an Office 2003 CD slipstreamed with Service Pack 1
||||
|||| -----
|||| ||||| Hello,
||||| I am using Outlook 2003 with server rules enabled.
||||| Are there limitations on how many rules can be established?
|||||
||||| Its seems I recently had to delete a few older rules in order to
||||| create
||||| newer ones.
|||||
||||| We are using Exchange 2003, with default storage settings;
|||||
||||| Please advice
|||||
||||| Vik

 

[Mark Arnold [MVP]]

My question still remains.... What and how does increasing the 32kb limit
have anything to do with backwards compatibility?

It kinda grates but i can't say. I would if I could.

 

[Confused]

If anyone from MS can answer my question logically and reasonably, Please do.
Other wise please take this issue further up the chain. From what I can tell
there is no reason for this limit and it should be addressed. I have seen
many posts on many different boards through out the web, with many people
stating that the amount of rules needed for today’s email communications
would warrant at least some R&D work on this issue. I personally feel it has
become counter productive to have to manually run rules when my inbox becomes
full as I receive well over 1000 legitimate emails a day.

Thank you for your valiant effort Mark and I hope my simple question will
raise some eyebrows.

Still ????????? And Now Waiting

 

[Brian Tillman]

If anyone from MS can answer my question logically and reasonably,

Since Microsoft employees rarely read this group and since it is not an
official Microsoft suport channel, you may be waiting a long time. Better
to call Microsoft support and ask directly.

You can also visit http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp and
make a suggestion.