limiting search form results

[neill]

I am using FP 98 and the basic search form. I want to be
able to limit search results. In have put files that I
don't want to be accessed into a hidden folder. So now,
the pages are inaccessible, but search results will still
return that page link. The link is useless to the user

How do I limit the RESULTS so that users are not
confronted with a bunch of deadend results that will only
return an "error" page anyway?

Surely there should be a way to NOT have a result returned
if the page that contains that text is a given folder
location. I suspect I have to change the "Word list to
search" parameters from "All" to something else, but I do
not use or have discussion groups!

Sincerely,
Neill

 

[Jim Buyens]

-----Original Message-----
I am using FP 98 and the basic search form. I want to be
able to limit search results. In have put files that I
don't want to be accessed into a hidden folder. So now,
the pages are inaccessible, but search results will still
return that page link. The link is useless to the user

How do I limit the RESULTS so that users are not
confronted with a bunch of deadend results that will only
return an "error" page anyway?

Surely there should be a way to NOT have a result
returned if the page that contains that text is a given
folder location. I suspect I have to change the "Word
list to search" parameters from "All" to something else,
but I do not use or have discussion groups!

Sincerely,
Neill

Try putting the "hidden" in your _private folder.

If that doesn't do it, put them in a a different subweb
that's not a child of the web you want to search.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
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[neill]

Jim:

First of all, FP has visually hidden the folder called
_off limts (the folder containing the files that should be
inaccessible) and secondly, when I use Exploring to try to
physically move the files into the _private folder, it
simply will not allow movement of the files!

Most frustrating!

Neill

 

[neill]

Thanks Stefan:

Sorry for long pause in response (vacation).


I have done as you said. Renamed and recalulated
hyperlinks. The files that are not to be made available
are in the _private/_off_limits folder and no other copies
exist.

The problem is still this:

a search term still brings up results for files that are
now in the _private/_off_limits folder but I noticed that
the results are referencing the OLD location for the file
before it was moved into a secure folder!

It's as if the search form will not relenquish the old
file locations/paths! Of course, when you click on the
seradh results links, it brings up my custom error page
because the file is not where the search resluts page
thinks it is.

How do I get the search form results page
(http://www.hoggandmythen.com/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/search.htm
) to stop referencing irrelvant pages?

Help,
Neill

-----Original Message-----
To see _hidden folders in FP use Tools Web Settings Advanced - show hidden folders

PS
Never name any of your files / folders w/ spaces
("_off limits" should be renamed to say "_off_limits")

And do not use Explorer to move any files in a FP web
- if you have open the web and run Tools Web Settings

Advanced - Delete Files and then Tools Recalculate
Hyperlinks

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| Jim:
|
| First of all, FP has visually hidden the folder called
| _off limts (the folder containing the files that should be
| inaccessible) and secondly, when I use Exploring to try to
| physically move the files into the _private folder, it
| simply will not allow movement of the files!
|
| Most frustrating!
|
| Neill
|
| >-----Original Message-----
| >
| >>-----Original Message-----
| >>I am using FP 98 and the basic search form. I want to be
| >>able to limit search results. In have put files that I
| >>don't want to be accessed into a hidden folder. So now,
| >>the pages are inaccessible, but search results will
| still
| >>return that page link. The link is useless to the user
| >>
| >>How do I limit the RESULTS so that users are not
| >>confronted with a bunch of deadend results that will
| only
| >>return an "error" page anyway?
| >>
| >>Surely there should be a way to NOT have a result
| >>returned if the page that contains that text is a given
| >>folder location. I suspect I have to change the "Word
| >>list to search" parameters from "All" to something else,
| >>but I do not use or have discussion groups!
| >>
| >>Sincerely,
| >>Neill
| >
| >Try putting the "hidden" in your _private folder.
| >
| >If that doesn't do it, put them in a a different subweb
| >that's not a child of the web you want to search.
| >
| >Jim Buyens
| >Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| >[email protected]
| >http://www.interlacken.com
| >Author of:
| >*------------------------------------------------------ *
| >|\---------------------------------------------------- /|
| >|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out ||
| >|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out ||
| >|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition ||
| >|| Troubleshooting Microsoft FrontPage 2002 ||
| >|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming ||
| >|| (All from Microsoft Press) ||
| >|/---------------------------------------------------- \|
| >*------------------------------------------------------ *
| >
| >.
| >


.

 

[Jim Buyens]

Thanks Stefan:

Sorry for long pause in response (vacation).

I have done as you said. Renamed and recalulated
hyperlinks. The files that are not to be made available
are in the _private/_off_limits folder and no other copies
exist.

The problem is still this:

a search term still brings up results for files that are
now in the _private/_off_limits folder but I noticed that
the results are referencing the OLD location for the file
before it was moved into a secure folder!

It's as if the search form will not relenquish the old
file locations/paths! Of course, when you click on the
seradh results links, it brings up my custom error page
because the file is not where the search resluts page
thinks it is.

How do I get the search form results page
(http://www.hoggandmythen.com/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/search.htm
) to stop referencing irrelvant pages?

If you're using the FrontPage "WAIS" search engine, recalculate
hyperlinks.

If you're using Microsoft Indexing Service, the server administrator
may need to kick off a new scan.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
*------------------------------------------------------*
|\----------------------------------------------------/|
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out ||
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out ||
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition ||
|| Troubleshooting Microsoft FrontPage 2002 ||
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming ||
|| (All from Microsoft Press) ||
|/----------------------------------------------------\|
*------------------------------------------------------*

 

[neill]

-----Original Message-----
"neill" <[email protected]> wrote in message

If you're using the FrontPage "WAIS" search engine, recalculate
hyperlinks.

If you're using Microsoft Indexing Service, the server administrator
may need to kick off a new scan.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
*------------------------------------------------------*
|\----------------------------------------------------/|
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out ||
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out ||
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition ||
|| Troubleshooting Microsoft FrontPage 2002 ||
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming ||
|| (All from Microsoft Press) ||
|/----------------------------------------------------\|
*------------------------------------------------------*
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