Lists with letters?

E

Elliott Roper

Friedrich Vosberg said:
Morning.

Is it possible to define a list format like:

§ <number>
(<number>)

The purpose is to define formats to get the possibility to write nice
acts and treaties like:

http://homepage.mac.com/vatolin/.Pictures/act.jpg

Ja. Einfach!
OK. I don't really speak German. Just enough to order beer. ;-)
Define styles with the numbering the way you want it. I think I did
this with the deprecated Bullets and Numbering menu inside format »
style. The trick is to use a different pattern for each level of
numbering. Then use the styles religiously.
You might have fun restarting the inner sequences. Ask again, and I'll
try to write up how I managed to do that.
I might have been lucky.
 
E

Elliott Roper

Elliott Roper said:
Ja. Einfach!
OK. I don't really speak German. Just enough to order beer. ;-)
Define styles with the numbering the way you want it. I think I did
this with the deprecated Bullets and Numbering menu inside format »
style. The trick is to use a different pattern for each level of
numbering. Then use the styles religiously.
You might have fun restarting the inner sequences. Ask again, and I'll
try to write up how I managed to do that.
I might have been lucky.
Ouch! I looked a little closer at your example. The superscripted
number sequence in mid paragraph will be more difficult. You might need
number fields for that. Ask again if the help doesn't.
I'll try and work through it with you. It is time I learned to do it
properly.
 
J

John McGhie

I may not get time to explain this tonight, but Elliott will :)

The Sections are Paragraph numbering. Make them a Level 4 style.

The (I) subsections are ListNum fields. You can make ListNum fields
subservient to style-based paragraph numbering.

The superscript numbers are footnotes: if you want numbering in that
position, don't superscript it, or you will confuse your reader into looking
for footnotes.

I'll try to get back and explain more later...


Ouch! I looked a little closer at your example. The superscripted
number sequence in mid paragraph will be more difficult. You might need
number fields for that. Ask again if the help doesn't.
I'll try and work through it with you. It is time I learned to do it
properly.

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L

little_creature

Hello,
to give you a bit more clue I did screenshoots, however I'm on PC so
your interface will look slightly different but you will have the same
entry there. See here http://home.tiscali.cz/zviratko/
for the § bullets find there picture §bullets the numbering in the
sentence I used the ListNum fields, however I could insert just I. I
did not manage to make (I) in this way. If you use Autonum field this
will give you a bit more options to handle, but I'm sure John will
return and explain us his his trick.

But what concerns me is the way you split the text. From typography
point this is not the best way. Bullets are intended to give you list
ie something like this:
animals:
-cats
-dogs
-little creatures


According to strict typography the lines should end by comma and dot
should be placed after the last entry:
-dogs,
-cats,
-creatures.

As far as I'm concern in my language (there might be differences for
other languages) the allowed is
1. and a) and you should not mix this together to get 1) that's typo
mistake.

Bullets are intended to make a list and in that picture you actually
use them *in text*. Which is not as they are supposed to be. That's
also why it may be hard for you to deal with this in Word. It's is
*possible* but it is not correct. Why is the (1) in the text whereas
(2) starts on next line as a new paragraph? You need do make styles
consistent. Either both should start as new paragraph (which is
correct) or in text (which is not correct but it hurts less than one
done it this way and second in other way).

The thing I would be very aware is the superscript bullet. The
superscript are used as footnotes when you need to explain that term
they point to or if youlike to make reference.


I may not get time to explain this tonight, but Elliott will :)

The Sections are Paragraph numbering. Make them a Level 4 style.

The (I) subsections are ListNum fields. You can make ListNum fields
subservient to style-based paragraph numbering.

The superscript numbers are footnotes: if you want numbering in that
position, don't superscript it, or you will confuse your reader into looking
for footnotes.

I'll try to get back and explain more later...

 
J

John McGhie

Hi LC:

Good work!!

I was going to leave the parentheses "outside" the field, as ordinary typed
text.

The AutoNum and the ListNum field are essentially the same field, "Autonum"
forces it into a specific format which is included for compatibility with
Word 97. We should be using ListNum fields these days, with the correct
list name specified :)

Cheers

Hello,
to give you a bit more clue I did screenshoots, however I'm on PC so
your interface will look slightly different but you will have the same
entry there. See here http://home.tiscali.cz/zviratko/
for the § bullets find there picture §bullets the numbering in the
sentence I used the ListNum fields, however I could insert just I. I
did not manage to make (I) in this way. If you use Autonum field this
will give you a bit more options to handle, but I'm sure John will
return and explain us his his trick.

But what concerns me is the way you split the text. From typography
point this is not the best way. Bullets are intended to give you list
ie something like this:
animals:
-cats
-dogs
-little creatures


According to strict typography the lines should end by comma and dot
should be placed after the last entry:
-dogs,
-cats,
-creatures.

As far as I'm concern in my language (there might be differences for
other languages) the allowed is
1. and a) and you should not mix this together to get 1) that's typo
mistake.

Bullets are intended to make a list and in that picture you actually
use them *in text*. Which is not as they are supposed to be. That's
also why it may be hard for you to deal with this in Word. It's is
*possible* but it is not correct. Why is the (1) in the text whereas
(2) starts on next line as a new paragraph? You need do make styles
consistent. Either both should start as new paragraph (which is
correct) or in text (which is not correct but it hurts less than one
done it this way and second in other way).

The thing I would be very aware is the superscript bullet. The
superscript are used as footnotes when you need to explain that term
they point to or if youlike to make reference.


I may not get time to explain this tonight, but Elliott will :)

The Sections are Paragraph numbering. Make them a Level 4 style.

The (I) subsections are ListNum fields. You can make ListNum fields
subservient to style-based paragraph numbering.

The superscript numbers are footnotes: if you want numbering in that
position, don't superscript it, or you will confuse your reader into looking
for footnotes.

I'll try to get back and explain more later...


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John McGhie, Consultant Technical Writer
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
http://jgmcghie.fastmail.com.au/
Sydney, Australia. S33°53'34.20 E151°14'54.50
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]
 

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