Local Server?

R

rfr

I have a need to be able to view my FrontPage web creations, during the
design and creation phase, on my local PC, not only in MSIE, but in Opera,
FireFox and Netscape.

But, FF, Opera and Netscape do not render HTML material correctly on my
local PC. I have to move it to an Internet server, to get FF, Opera and
Netscape to see if there are any differences between those and how MSIE
renders the code. Experimenting live on Internet is not a wise method.
Visitors will see the evolving, non-functional stuff. I only want them to
see the finished, polished, functional stuff.

So, I have been wondering ho hard it is to set up a local server ( or costly
to have someone else do it and keep it maintained). I do not like techy
things.

I have all my FrontPage webs on drive E;/ of my local PC.

Do any of you have server software running on your local PC to accomplish
what I am seeking?

Is there a simple way of doing this?
 
S

Stefan B Rusynko

IF running an OS that supports IIS you could install the FPSE on your PC and run your FP web from localhost
- but if you don't want to go thru that, and your host supports subwebs set up a staging subweb to publish to for testing (you could
set it up w/ unique permissions so no one else could see it)
--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
_____________________________________________


|I have a need to be able to view my FrontPage web creations, during the
| design and creation phase, on my local PC, not only in MSIE, but in Opera,
| FireFox and Netscape.
|
| But, FF, Opera and Netscape do not render HTML material correctly on my
| local PC. I have to move it to an Internet server, to get FF, Opera and
| Netscape to see if there are any differences between those and how MSIE
| renders the code. Experimenting live on Internet is not a wise method.
| Visitors will see the evolving, non-functional stuff. I only want them to
| see the finished, polished, functional stuff.
|
| So, I have been wondering ho hard it is to set up a local server ( or costly
| to have someone else do it and keep it maintained). I do not like techy
| things.
|
| I have all my FrontPage webs on drive E;/ of my local PC.
|
| Do any of you have server software running on your local PC to accomplish
| what I am seeking?
|
| Is there a simple way of doing this?
|
|
|
 
R

rfr

Is it possible to run a IIs server on just a logical drive E:\ on a local PC
running Win XP Media center? Or does it entirely replace Wind XP media
center and effect all logical ( partitioned) and physical drives?
 
S

Steve Easton

IIS is installed on C:\ and there is no option to install it a different drive.
IIS works in XP Pro.
If there is no option in Control Panel > Add or Remove Programs > Add Remove Windows Components, then Media
Center won't run it.


--

Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm



rfr said:
Is it possible to run a IIs server on just a logical drive E:\ on a local PC running Win XP Media center? Or
does it entirely replace Wind XP media center and effect all logical ( partitioned) and physical drives?

Stefan B Rusynko said:
IF running an OS that supports IIS you could install the FPSE on your PC and run your FP web from localhost
- but if you don't want to go thru that, and your host supports subwebs set up a staging subweb to publish
to for testing (you could
set it up w/ unique permissions so no one else could see it)
--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
_____________________________________________


|I have a need to be able to view my FrontPage web creations, during the
| design and creation phase, on my local PC, not only in MSIE, but in Opera,
| FireFox and Netscape.
|
| But, FF, Opera and Netscape do not render HTML material correctly on my
| local PC. I have to move it to an Internet server, to get FF, Opera and
| Netscape to see if there are any differences between those and how MSIE
| renders the code. Experimenting live on Internet is not a wise method.
| Visitors will see the evolving, non-functional stuff. I only want them to
| see the finished, polished, functional stuff.
|
| So, I have been wondering ho hard it is to set up a local server ( or costly
| to have someone else do it and keep it maintained). I do not like techy
| things.
|
| I have all my FrontPage webs on drive E;/ of my local PC.
|
| Do any of you have server software running on your local PC to accomplish
| what I am seeking?
|
| Is there a simple way of doing this?
|
|
|
 
K

Kathleen Anderson

You can run IIS on Windows XP Media Center Edition - I do.

--

~ Kathleen Anderson
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
Spider Web Woman Designs
Expression Web Resources: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/xweb/
FrontPage Resources: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
Please reply to the newsgroup for the benefit of others


Steve Easton said:
IIS is installed on C:\ and there is no option to install it a different
drive.
IIS works in XP Pro.
If there is no option in Control Panel > Add or Remove Programs > Add
Remove Windows Components, then Media Center won't run it.


--

Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm



rfr said:
Is it possible to run a IIs server on just a logical drive E:\ on a local
PC running Win XP Media center? Or does it entirely replace Wind XP
media center and effect all logical ( partitioned) and physical drives?

Stefan B Rusynko said:
IF running an OS that supports IIS you could install the FPSE on your PC
and run your FP web from localhost
- but if you don't want to go thru that, and your host supports subwebs
set up a staging subweb to publish to for testing (you could
set it up w/ unique permissions so no one else could see it)
--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
_____________________________________________


|I have a need to be able to view my FrontPage web creations, during the
| design and creation phase, on my local PC, not only in MSIE, but in
Opera,
| FireFox and Netscape.
|
| But, FF, Opera and Netscape do not render HTML material correctly on
my
| local PC. I have to move it to an Internet server, to get FF, Opera
and
| Netscape to see if there are any differences between those and how
MSIE
| renders the code. Experimenting live on Internet is not a wise method.
| Visitors will see the evolving, non-functional stuff. I only want them
to
| see the finished, polished, functional stuff.
|
| So, I have been wondering ho hard it is to set up a local server ( or
costly
| to have someone else do it and keep it maintained). I do not like
techy
| things.
|
| I have all my FrontPage webs on drive E;/ of my local PC.
|
| Do any of you have server software running on your local PC to
accomplish
| what I am seeking?
|
| Is there a simple way of doing this?
|
|
|
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

IIS is installed on drive C, however you can create a folder to host your web on another drive, then
point IIS to use this folder.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
http://www.Ecom-Data.com
==============================================


Steve Easton said:
IIS is installed on C:\ and there is no option to install it a different drive.
IIS works in XP Pro.
If there is no option in Control Panel > Add or Remove Programs > Add Remove Windows Components,
then Media Center won't run it.


--

Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm



rfr said:
Is it possible to run a IIs server on just a logical drive E:\ on a local PC running Win XP Media
center? Or does it entirely replace Wind XP media center and effect all logical ( partitioned)
and physical drives?

Stefan B Rusynko said:
IF running an OS that supports IIS you could install the FPSE on your PC and run your FP web
from localhost
- but if you don't want to go thru that, and your host supports subwebs set up a staging subweb
to publish to for testing (you could
set it up w/ unique permissions so no one else could see it)
--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
_____________________________________________


|I have a need to be able to view my FrontPage web creations, during the
| design and creation phase, on my local PC, not only in MSIE, but in Opera,
| FireFox and Netscape.
|
| But, FF, Opera and Netscape do not render HTML material correctly on my
| local PC. I have to move it to an Internet server, to get FF, Opera and
| Netscape to see if there are any differences between those and how MSIE
| renders the code. Experimenting live on Internet is not a wise method.
| Visitors will see the evolving, non-functional stuff. I only want them to
| see the finished, polished, functional stuff.
|
| So, I have been wondering ho hard it is to set up a local server ( or costly
| to have someone else do it and keep it maintained). I do not like techy
| things.
|
| I have all my FrontPage webs on drive E;/ of my local PC.
|
| Do any of you have server software running on your local PC to accomplish
| what I am seeking?
|
| Is there a simple way of doing this?
|
|
|
 
R

rfr

If I have someone set up IIs on my Win XP Media center PC, will it be active
ONLY on drive C:\? Or will it be effective on my drive E:\ ( which is a
partition of the same physical drive as C:\)?

If so, then May I assume that I could start using server side includes
rather than FrontPage Inlcudes and be able to view them using MSIE, FF,Opera
and Netscape? And might be able to use and view PHP as part of my webs?

Would the FrontPage 2003 display and preview modes be effected?

Kathleen Anderson said:
You can run IIS on Windows XP Media Center Edition - I do.

--

~ Kathleen Anderson
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
Spider Web Woman Designs
Expression Web Resources: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/xweb/
FrontPage Resources: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
Please reply to the newsgroup for the benefit of others


Steve Easton said:
IIS is installed on C:\ and there is no option to install it a different
drive.
IIS works in XP Pro.
If there is no option in Control Panel > Add or Remove Programs > Add
Remove Windows Components, then Media Center won't run it.


--

Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm



rfr said:
Is it possible to run a IIs server on just a logical drive E:\ on a
local PC running Win XP Media center? Or does it entirely replace Wind
XP media center and effect all logical ( partitioned) and physical
drives?

IF running an OS that supports IIS you could install the FPSE on your
PC and run your FP web from localhost
- but if you don't want to go thru that, and your host supports subwebs
set up a staging subweb to publish to for testing (you could
set it up w/ unique permissions so no one else could see it)
--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
_____________________________________________


|I have a need to be able to view my FrontPage web creations, during
the
| design and creation phase, on my local PC, not only in MSIE, but in
Opera,
| FireFox and Netscape.
|
| But, FF, Opera and Netscape do not render HTML material correctly on
my
| local PC. I have to move it to an Internet server, to get FF, Opera
and
| Netscape to see if there are any differences between those and how
MSIE
| renders the code. Experimenting live on Internet is not a wise
method.
| Visitors will see the evolving, non-functional stuff. I only want
them to
| see the finished, polished, functional stuff.
|
| So, I have been wondering ho hard it is to set up a local server ( or
costly
| to have someone else do it and keep it maintained). I do not like
techy
| things.
|
| I have all my FrontPage webs on drive E;/ of my local PC.
|
| Do any of you have server software running on your local PC to
accomplish
| what I am seeking?
|
| Is there a simple way of doing this?
|
|
|
 
R

Ronx

You don't need a web server to use FrontPage includes. As I said
before, the included page is added to the parent page when the parent is
saved - open a page that has a FrontPage include in it and you will see
that for yourself. If FireFox etc. does not display the included
content, then there is an error in the code - or you are using root
relative links from a website not located at the hard drive root folder.
(Neither FrontPage nor Expression Web will allow you to open a web
site that is located at the hard drive root folder - both programs
insist that websites are in folders.)
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp




If I have someone set up IIs on my Win XP Media center PC, will it be active
ONLY on drive C:\? Or will it be effective on my drive E:\ ( which is a
partition of the same physical drive as C:\)?

If so, then May I assume that I could start using server side includes
rather than FrontPage Inlcudes and be able to view them using MSIE, FF,Opera
and Netscape? And might be able to use and view PHP as part of my webs?

Would the FrontPage 2003 display and preview modes be effected?

Kathleen Anderson said:
You can run IIS on Windows XP Media Center Edition - I do.

--

~ Kathleen Anderson
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
Spider Web Woman Designs
Expression Web Resources: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/xweb/
FrontPage Resources: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
Please reply to the newsgroup for the benefit of others


Steve Easton said:
IIS is installed on C:\ and there is no option to install it a different
drive.
IIS works in XP Pro.
If there is no option in Control Panel > Add or Remove Programs > Add
Remove Windows Components, then Media Center won't run it.


--

Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm



Is it possible to run a IIs server on just a logical drive E:\ on a
local PC running Win XP Media center? Or does it entirely replace Wind
XP media center and effect all logical ( partitioned) and physical
drives?

IF running an OS that supports IIS you could install the FPSE on your
PC and run your FP web from localhost
- but if you don't want to go thru that, and your host supports subwebs
set up a staging subweb to publish to for testing (you could
set it up w/ unique permissions so no one else could see it)
--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
_____________________________________________


|I have a need to be able to view my FrontPage web creations, during
the
| design and creation phase, on my local PC, not only in MSIE, but in
Opera,
| FireFox and Netscape.
|
| But, FF, Opera and Netscape do not render HTML material correctly on
my
| local PC. I have to move it to an Internet server, to get FF, Opera
and
| Netscape to see if there are any differences between those and how
MSIE
| renders the code. Experimenting live on Internet is not a wise
method.
| Visitors will see the evolving, non-functional stuff. I only want
them to
| see the finished, polished, functional stuff.
|
| So, I have been wondering ho hard it is to set up a local server ( or
costly
| to have someone else do it and keep it maintained). I do not like
techy
| things.
|
| I have all my FrontPage webs on drive E;/ of my local PC.
|
| Do any of you have server software running on your local PC to
accomplish
| what I am seeking?
|
| Is there a simple way of doing this?
|
|
|
 
R

Ronx

That should read:

Use Notepad to open a page that has a FrontPage include in it ...

The HTML for the include will be similar to:

<!--webbot bot="Include" tag="BODY" u-include="includedpage.htm"
startspan -->

HTML from included page

<!--webbot bot="Include" i-checksum="51331" endspan -->


--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp




You don't need a web server to use FrontPage includes. As I said
before, the included page is added to the parent page when the parent is
saved - open a page that has a FrontPage include in it and you will see
that for yourself. If FireFox etc. does not display the included
content, then there is an error in the code - or you are using root
relative links from a website not located at the hard drive root folder.
(Neither FrontPage nor Expression Web will allow you to open a web
site that is located at the hard drive root folder - both programs
insist that websites are in folders.)
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp




If I have someone set up IIs on my Win XP Media center PC, will it be active
ONLY on drive C:\? Or will it be effective on my drive E:\ ( which is a
partition of the same physical drive as C:\)?

If so, then May I assume that I could start using server side includes
rather than FrontPage Inlcudes and be able to view them using MSIE, FF,Opera
and Netscape? And might be able to use and view PHP as part of my webs?

Would the FrontPage 2003 display and preview modes be effected?

Kathleen Anderson said:
You can run IIS on Windows XP Media Center Edition - I do.

--

~ Kathleen Anderson
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
Spider Web Woman Designs
Expression Web Resources: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/xweb/
FrontPage Resources: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
Please reply to the newsgroup for the benefit of others


IIS is installed on C:\ and there is no option to install it a different
drive.
IIS works in XP Pro.
If there is no option in Control Panel > Add or Remove Programs > Add
Remove Windows Components, then Media Center won't run it.


--

Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm



Is it possible to run a IIs server on just a logical drive E:\ on a
local PC running Win XP Media center? Or does it entirely replace Wind
XP media center and effect all logical ( partitioned) and physical
drives?

IF running an OS that supports IIS you could install the FPSE on your
PC and run your FP web from localhost
- but if you don't want to go thru that, and your host supports subwebs
set up a staging subweb to publish to for testing (you could
set it up w/ unique permissions so no one else could see it)
--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
_____________________________________________


|I have a need to be able to view my FrontPage web creations, during
the
| design and creation phase, on my local PC, not only in MSIE, but in
Opera,
| FireFox and Netscape.
|
| But, FF, Opera and Netscape do not render HTML material correctly on
my
| local PC. I have to move it to an Internet server, to get FF, Opera
and
| Netscape to see if there are any differences between those and how
MSIE
| renders the code. Experimenting live on Internet is not a wise
method.
| Visitors will see the evolving, non-functional stuff. I only want
them to
| see the finished, polished, functional stuff.
|
| So, I have been wondering ho hard it is to set up a local server ( or
costly
| to have someone else do it and keep it maintained). I do not like
techy
| things.
|
| I have all my FrontPage webs on drive E;/ of my local PC.
|
| Do any of you have server software running on your local PC to
accomplish
| what I am seeking?
|
| Is there a simple way of doing this?
|
|
|
 
R

rfr

I agree that . . Obviously you dont need a web server to use FrontPage
includes. I have been sucessfully using them for years.

There is NO error in the code. It all validates using the W3C Validators AND
it runs ok on the when published to my Internet server. It is ONLY on my
LOCAL PC that there is an odd failure with FF, Opera and Netscape.

I have created an image of the results I get using the four browsers on my
local pc vs on the Internet server.

http://www.wgtn.net/local_pc_browser_problem_2008_07_07.jpg

The top row of the linked image shows what the four browsers display from my
local PC. MSIE is ok. The others are missing stuff. Each browser has its
own column.

The bottom row of the linked image shows the same document when published
and viewed from my Internet server. When viewed from the Internet server
they all look rather well.

But, I dont want to autho on the Interbet server. I want to author on my
local PC and not move it to the server util they ALL look good.

Right now, I cannot tell if they ALL look good on my local PC.

The main domain is at the ROOT of drive E:\

The subwebs are folders (official FrontPage subwebs) within drive E:\

I have had no problem with URL addressing for years. Neither here on my
local PC nor on the server.

I have been suspecting that FF, Opera and netscape have an odd way of
handling the finding of local PC files aand directories and get themselves
confused, but MSIE doesnt get confused.

The code is the same on the Internet server and my local PC. Therefore the
only difference is ow the vrious browsers find things. If it is valid code,
they all should be the same. They are not the same. Therefore, I have
concluded that FF, Opera and Netscape have some deficiency when run locally.

Ronx said:
You don't need a web server to use FrontPage includes. As I said before,
the included page is added to the parent page when the parent is saved -
open a page that has a FrontPage include in it and you will see that for
yourself. If FireFox etc. does not display the included content, then
there is an error in the code - or you are using root relative links from
a website not located at the hard drive root folder. (Neither FrontPage
nor Expression Web will allow you to open a web site that is located at
the hard drive root folder - both programs insist that websites are in
folders.)
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp




If I have someone set up IIs on my Win XP Media center PC, will it be
active
ONLY on drive C:\? Or will it be effective on my drive E:\ ( which is a
partition of the same physical drive as C:\)?

If so, then May I assume that I could start using server side includes
rather than FrontPage Inlcudes and be able to view them using MSIE,
FF,Opera
and Netscape? And might be able to use and view PHP as part of my webs?

Would the FrontPage 2003 display and preview modes be effected?

Kathleen Anderson said:
You can run IIS on Windows XP Media Center Edition - I do.

--

~ Kathleen Anderson
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
Spider Web Woman Designs
Expression Web Resources: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/xweb/
FrontPage Resources: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
Please reply to the newsgroup for the benefit of others


IIS is installed on C:\ and there is no option to install it a
different
drive.
IIS works in XP Pro.
If there is no option in Control Panel > Add or Remove Programs > Add
Remove Windows Components, then Media Center won't run it.


--

Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm



Is it possible to run a IIs server on just a logical drive E:\ on a
local PC running Win XP Media center? Or does it entirely replace
Wind
XP media center and effect all logical ( partitioned) and physical
drives?

IF running an OS that supports IIS you could install the FPSE on
your
PC and run your FP web from localhost
- but if you don't want to go thru that, and your host supports
subwebs
set up a staging subweb to publish to for testing (you could
set it up w/ unique permissions so no one else could see it)
--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
_____________________________________________


|I have a need to be able to view my FrontPage web creations, during
the
| design and creation phase, on my local PC, not only in MSIE, but
in
Opera,
| FireFox and Netscape.
|
| But, FF, Opera and Netscape do not render HTML material correctly
on
my
| local PC. I have to move it to an Internet server, to get FF,
Opera
and
| Netscape to see if there are any differences between those and
how
MSIE
| renders the code. Experimenting live on Internet is not a wise
method.
| Visitors will see the evolving, non-functional stuff. I only want
them to
| see the finished, polished, functional stuff.
|
| So, I have been wondering ho hard it is to set up a local server
( or
costly
| to have someone else do it and keep it maintained). I do not like
techy
| things.
|
| I have all my FrontPage webs on drive E;/ of my local PC.
|
| Do any of you have server software running on your local PC to
accomplish
| what I am seeking?
|
| Is there a simple way of doing this?
|
|
|
 
R

Ronx

When comparing the browser address bars it does look as if the IE7 image
(PC version) is actually from the web server, and not from the PC. The
address is the same length as in the web server version, has the same
gap 3 or 4 characters from the end of the address, and is longer than
the address in the other browsers (PC version).
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp




I agree that . . Obviously you dont need a web server to use FrontPage
includes. I have been sucessfully using them for years.

There is NO error in the code. It all validates using the W3C Validators AND
it runs ok on the when published to my Internet server. It is ONLY on my
LOCAL PC that there is an odd failure with FF, Opera and Netscape.

I have created an image of the results I get using the four browsers on my
local pc vs on the Internet server.

http://www.wgtn.net/local_pc_browser_problem_2008_07_07.jpg

The top row of the linked image shows what the four browsers display from my
local PC. MSIE is ok. The others are missing stuff. Each browser has its
own column.

The bottom row of the linked image shows the same document when published
and viewed from my Internet server. When viewed from the Internet server
they all look rather well.

But, I dont want to autho on the Interbet server. I want to author on my
local PC and not move it to the server util they ALL look good.

Right now, I cannot tell if they ALL look good on my local PC.

The main domain is at the ROOT of drive E:\

The subwebs are folders (official FrontPage subwebs) within drive E:\

I have had no problem with URL addressing for years. Neither here on my
local PC nor on the server.

I have been suspecting that FF, Opera and netscape have an odd way of
handling the finding of local PC files aand directories and get themselves
confused, but MSIE doesnt get confused.

The code is the same on the Internet server and my local PC. Therefore the
only difference is ow the vrious browsers find things. If it is valid code,
they all should be the same. They are not the same. Therefore, I have
concluded that FF, Opera and Netscape have some deficiency when run locally.

Ronx said:
You don't need a web server to use FrontPage includes. As I said before,
the included page is added to the parent page when the parent is saved -
open a page that has a FrontPage include in it and you will see that for
yourself. If FireFox etc. does not display the included content, then
there is an error in the code - or you are using root relative links from
a website not located at the hard drive root folder. (Neither FrontPage
nor Expression Web will allow you to open a web site that is located at
the hard drive root folder - both programs insist that websites are in
folders.)
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp




If I have someone set up IIs on my Win XP Media center PC, will it be
active
ONLY on drive C:\? Or will it be effective on my drive E:\ ( which is a
partition of the same physical drive as C:\)?

If so, then May I assume that I could start using server side includes
rather than FrontPage Inlcudes and be able to view them using MSIE,
FF,Opera
and Netscape? And might be able to use and view PHP as part of my webs?

Would the FrontPage 2003 display and preview modes be effected?

You can run IIS on Windows XP Media Center Edition - I do.

--

~ Kathleen Anderson
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
Spider Web Woman Designs
Expression Web Resources: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/xweb/
FrontPage Resources: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
Please reply to the newsgroup for the benefit of others


IIS is installed on C:\ and there is no option to install it a
different
drive.
IIS works in XP Pro.
If there is no option in Control Panel > Add or Remove Programs > Add
Remove Windows Components, then Media Center won't run it.


--

Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm



Is it possible to run a IIs server on just a logical drive E:\ on a
local PC running Win XP Media center? Or does it entirely replace
Wind
XP media center and effect all logical ( partitioned) and physical
drives?

IF running an OS that supports IIS you could install the FPSE on
your
PC and run your FP web from localhost
- but if you don't want to go thru that, and your host supports
subwebs
set up a staging subweb to publish to for testing (you could
set it up w/ unique permissions so no one else could see it)
--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
_____________________________________________


|I have a need to be able to view my FrontPage web creations, during
the
| design and creation phase, on my local PC, not only in MSIE, but
in
Opera,
| FireFox and Netscape.
|
| But, FF, Opera and Netscape do not render HTML material correctly
on
my
| local PC. I have to move it to an Internet server, to get FF,
Opera
and
| Netscape to see if there are any differences between those and
how
MSIE
| renders the code. Experimenting live on Internet is not a wise
method.
| Visitors will see the evolving, non-functional stuff. I only want
them to
| see the finished, polished, functional stuff.
|
| So, I have been wondering ho hard it is to set up a local server
( or
costly
| to have someone else do it and keep it maintained). I do not like
techy
| things.
|
| I have all my FrontPage webs on drive E;/ of my local PC.
|
| Do any of you have server software running on your local PC to
accomplish
| what I am seeking?
|
| Is there a simple way of doing this?
|
|
|
 
R

rfr

You are right about that section of the table of images being the wrong MSIE
version!

My fingers got ahead of my brain.

I have corrected that portion of the image and published this new version to
the server, so that it may be accessed at the same URL as the previous
image.

http://www.wgtn.net/local_pc_browser_problem_2008_07_07.jpg

MSIE local looks good.

Ronx said:
When comparing the browser address bars it does look as if the IE7 image
(PC version) is actually from the web server, and not from the PC. The
address is the same length as in the web server version, has the same gap
3 or 4 characters from the end of the address, and is longer than the
address in the other browsers (PC version).
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp




I agree that . . Obviously you dont need a web server to use FrontPage
includes. I have been sucessfully using them for years.

There is NO error in the code. It all validates using the W3C Validators
AND
it runs ok on the when published to my Internet server. It is ONLY on my
LOCAL PC that there is an odd failure with FF, Opera and Netscape.

I have created an image of the results I get using the four browsers on
my
local pc vs on the Internet server.

http://www.wgtn.net/local_pc_browser_problem_2008_07_07.jpg

The top row of the linked image shows what the four browsers display from
my
local PC. MSIE is ok. The others are missing stuff. Each browser has its
own column.

The bottom row of the linked image shows the same document when published
and viewed from my Internet server. When viewed from the Internet server
they all look rather well.

But, I dont want to autho on the Interbet server. I want to author on my
local PC and not move it to the server util they ALL look good.

Right now, I cannot tell if they ALL look good on my local PC.

The main domain is at the ROOT of drive E:\

The subwebs are folders (official FrontPage subwebs) within drive E:\

I have had no problem with URL addressing for years. Neither here on my
local PC nor on the server.

I have been suspecting that FF, Opera and netscape have an odd way of
handling the finding of local PC files aand directories and get
themselves
confused, but MSIE doesnt get confused.

The code is the same on the Internet server and my local PC. Therefore
the
only difference is ow the vrious browsers find things. If it is valid
code,
they all should be the same. They are not the same. Therefore, I have
concluded that FF, Opera and Netscape have some deficiency when run
locally.

Ronx said:
You don't need a web server to use FrontPage includes. As I said
before,
the included page is added to the parent page when the parent is
saved -
open a page that has a FrontPage include in it and you will see that
for
yourself. If FireFox etc. does not display the included content, then
there is an error in the code - or you are using root relative links
from
a website not located at the hard drive root folder. (Neither FrontPage
nor Expression Web will allow you to open a web site that is located at
the hard drive root folder - both programs insist that websites are in
folders.)
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp





If I have someone set up IIs on my Win XP Media center PC, will it be
active
ONLY on drive C:\? Or will it be effective on my drive E:\ ( which is
a
partition of the same physical drive as C:\)?

If so, then May I assume that I could start using server side
includes
rather than FrontPage Inlcudes and be able to view them using MSIE,
FF,Opera
and Netscape? And might be able to use and view PHP as part of my
webs?

Would the FrontPage 2003 display and preview modes be effected?

You can run IIS on Windows XP Media Center Edition - I do.

--

~ Kathleen Anderson
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
Spider Web Woman Designs
Expression Web Resources: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/xweb/
FrontPage Resources: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
Please reply to the newsgroup for the benefit of others


IIS is installed on C:\ and there is no option to install it a
different
drive.
IIS works in XP Pro.
If there is no option in Control Panel > Add or Remove Programs >
Add
Remove Windows Components, then Media Center won't run it.


--

Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm



Is it possible to run a IIs server on just a logical drive E:\ on
a
local PC running Win XP Media center? Or does it entirely replace
Wind
XP media center and effect all logical ( partitioned) and physical
drives?

IF running an OS that supports IIS you could install the FPSE on
your
PC and run your FP web from localhost
- but if you don't want to go thru that, and your host supports
subwebs
set up a staging subweb to publish to for testing (you could
set it up w/ unique permissions so no one else could see it)
--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
_____________________________________________


|I have a need to be able to view my FrontPage web creations,
during
the
| design and creation phase, on my local PC, not only in MSIE,
but
in
Opera,
| FireFox and Netscape.
|
| But, FF, Opera and Netscape do not render HTML material
correctly
on
my
| local PC. I have to move it to an Internet server, to get FF,
Opera
and
| Netscape to see if there are any differences between those and
how
MSIE
| renders the code. Experimenting live on Internet is not a wise
method.
| Visitors will see the evolving, non-functional stuff. I only
want
them to
| see the finished, polished, functional stuff.
|
| So, I have been wondering ho hard it is to set up a local
server
( or
costly
| to have someone else do it and keep it maintained). I do not
like
techy
| things.
|
| I have all my FrontPage webs on drive E;/ of my local PC.
|
| Do any of you have server software running on your local PC to
accomplish
| what I am seeking?
|
| Is there a simple way of doing this?
|
|
|
 

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