Losing some print options

[skbutler]

Version: 2008 Operating System: Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) Processor: Intel I've used Word for Mac since the day it was first released and dozens of different printers and never seen this problem. The same problem shows up using either a Canon or Kodak printer.
When printing a 20 to 50 page doc (double sided) I select to print odd pages first and it usually Q's up properly and prints normally. Then when I select to print the even pages, instead of a single Queue containing all of the even pages I get 2 or 3 Queues each containing part of the even pages. This makes using the double side printing option a real pain.
Also, when I first select Print, I can use the Print Current Page or Print Range feature like always but if I print something then I lose those features. If I select Print current page is shows 0 pages selected and nothing will print. Thanks for any help you can provide.

Steve

 

[John McGhie]

Hi Steve:

The multiple jobs are caused by changes in the "Page" properties of the
sections.

Something in the Even Page header or footer, by the sounds of it, is
"changing".

When you make any change to the page properties (header, footer, paper size,
margins, etc) Word thinks you need a new sheet of paper. The Apple print
subsystem interprets this as a new print job.

If you use StyleRef fields to replicate content into the headers or footers,
this won't happen and you'll get a single print job.

If you don't need the section breaks, remove them, and all will be well.

Sorry, it's a legacy of the Apple printing subsystem. A new Word document
section looks so much like a new document, that the print subsystem signs
off the print job and starts a new one. It's a pain...

Cheers

Version: 2008 Operating System: Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) Processor: Intel
I've used Word for Mac since the day it was first released and dozens of
different printers and never seen this problem. The same problem shows up
using either a Canon or Kodak printer.
When printing a 20 to 50 page doc (double sided) I select to print odd pages
first and it usually Q's up properly and prints normally. Then when I select
to print the even pages, instead of a single Queue containing all of the even
pages I get 2 or 3 Queues each containing part of the even pages. This makes
using the double side printing option a real pain.
Also, when I first select Print, I can use the Print Current Page or Print
Range feature like always but if I print something then I lose those features.
If I select Print current page is shows 0 pages selected and nothing will
print. Thanks for any help you can provide.

Steve

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[skbutler]

Hi John,
Thanks for the response . That makes sense and I'll try it over the weekend. But that doesn't explain the loss of 'Print Current Page' and 'Print Range' at the same time I get the multiple print Queues. None of the three symptoms have ever shown up before and that's in 26 years printing with the Mac and almost that long printing from Word.

At the same time this started, I started having trouble with my relatively new Kodak ESP 5250 wireless printer. Do you think the Kodak software could be involved?

Steve

 

[John McGhie]

I didn't understand the second part of your question

Where is your insertion point when you "Print Current Page"?

If it's not a paragraph in the main text, there is no "current page" to
print. Make sure your insertion point is not in a text box or graphic or
header or footer.

Similarly: the range can't resolve unless you are clicked into the text. A
Text box is a floating object, it is not part of the document text, and has
no page number. It's a "smoke and mirrors" feature that causes a bit of
confusion.

This is a little cryptic: let me know if you're really interested and I will
expand it: The actual text box or graphics object is in the "object store"
at the far end of the document. The text box is not placed on an actual
page until the pages are generated. Pages don't exist in the file, they are
inserted into the print stream at output time. If you do not print the
whole document, floating objects are not in the print stream and have no
page numbers.

Hope this helps

Hi John,
Thanks for the response . That makes sense and I'll try it over the weekend.
But that doesn't explain the loss of 'Print Current Page' and 'Print Range' at
the same time I get the multiple print Queues. None of the three symptoms have
ever shown up before and that's in 26 years printing with the Mac and almost
that long printing from Word.

At the same time this started, I started having trouble with my relatively new
Kodak ESP 5250 wireless printer. Do you think the Kodak software could be
involved?

Steve

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The email below is my business email -- Please do not email me about forum
matters unless I ask you to; or unless you intend to pay!

John McGhie, Microsoft MVP (Word, Mac Word), Consultant Technical Writer,
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. | Ph: +61 (0)4 1209 1410 | mailto:[email protected]

 

[skbutler]

I didn't understand the second part of your question

>
> Where is your insertion point when you "Print Current Page"?
>
> If it's not a paragraph in the main text, there is no "current page" to
> print. Make sure your insertion point is not in a text box or graphic or
> header or footer.
>
> Similarly: the range can't resolve unless you are clicked into the text. A
> Text box is a floating object, it is not part of the document text, and has
> no page number. It's a "smoke and mirrors" feature that causes a bit of
> confusion.
>
> This is a little cryptic: let me know if you're really interested and I will
> expand it: The actual text box or graphics object is in the "object store"
> at the far end of the document. The text box is not placed on an actual
> page until the pages are generated. Pages don't exist in the file, they are
> inserted into the print stream at output time. If you do not print the
> whole document, floating objects are not in the print stream and have no
> page numbers.
>
> Hope this helps
>
>
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> "[email protected]" wrote:
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> The email below is my business email -- Please do not email me about forum
> matters unless I ask you to; or unless you intend to pay!
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> John McGhie, Microsoft MVP (Word, Mac Word), Consultant Technical Writer,
> McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
> Sydney, Australia. | Ph: +61 (0)4 1209 1410 | mailto:[email protected]
>
>
> Hi John, this is a real bummer. I've been tied up here with a little oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. But before that I was able to print the last two chapters just fine. So I just did a re-write of chapter 1 and printed the odd pages with no problem. Then when I tried to print the even pages I was back to having 2 queues and mixed up numbers so I tried to print the even pages one at a time like before. No go.

If I select say page 42 by placing the insertion point in the text on page 42 and then select Print and then select Print current page, no graphics show up in the preview window and no graphics print if I print the page.

I opened the previous version of the chapter and I can select a page and select print current page and it works fine.

I wish I could remember what all I did to get the last two chapters to print with no problems.

Steve

 

[John McGhie]

How did you place those pictures on the page?

If the pictures are "Inline with text" they will normally print odds and
evens without a problem. But if the pictures are formatted as anything
else, they usually won't.

Cheers

If I select say page 42 by placing the insertion point in the text on page 42
and then select Print and then select Print current page, no graphics show up
in the preview window and no graphics print if I print the page.

I opened the previous version of the chapter and I can select a page and
select print current page and it works fine.

I wish I could remember what all I did to get the last two chapters to print
with no problems.

Steve

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The email below is my business email -- Please do not email me about forum
matters unless I ask you to; or unless you intend to pay!

John McGhie, Microsoft MVP (Word, Mac Word), Consultant Technical Writer,
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. | Ph: +61 (0)4 1209 1410 | mailto:[email protected]