lost copy of website

[Elly Prior]

I would really appreciate some help. I had kept a copy of
my website compressed on a floppy. I now cannot retrieve
it. Does that mean I have to start all over again or is
there some way that I can recover it from the website
itself? It has taken me months to design it as I was a
complete novice and it had about 25 pages.

Anxiously awaiting a response!

Thanks in anticipation.

Elly

 

[Don Schmidt]

If you created your site with Publisher and it is gone, yes you will need to
start over again. I know the feeling, it happened to me.

 

[Guest]

Thank you Don. Glad to know I am not the only one!

Elly

 

[analog]

Actually, Publisher 2002 is supposed to be able to import html and work on it as
a "native language". My limited experience with this was not to good, however.
I am not sure about Publisher 2003 in this regard.

Are you sure you do not have the original publisher files? You do not need the
htm or html files if the site was created in Publisher.

In any event, download the actual files from the server now to protect against
disaster until you figure out what you want to do. This might be a good time to
abandon Publisher and import the source code into Front Page or Dreamweaver and
patch it up. At 25 pages, you are already pushing the limit in Publisher,
especially if you are in Publisher 2003 (bloated code problem).

Good luck.

 

[Guest]

Thanks so much for that. I am using Publisher 2000. I am
not anticipating expanding the site, neither do I think
(but I don't know for sure) that it uses a lot of memory. I
am really an absolute novice and if I had known what
wonderful support there was here, I would have saved myself
days of frustration figuring things out.

So, the truth is I haven't a clue whether I have HTML
files, neither do I understand source code. I am very
grateful for your suggestion to download my site (I may
just about be able to do that!) in case of disaster.
However, I do not know how to you Front page and I started
to learn Dreamweaver, which given time I am sure I would
have come to grips with, but it just takes so long to start
from scratch. So, if I can transfer something straight in
there, I could just try to fiddle with it!

At the moment, I still have the original on 4 floppies,
compressed, but floppy 2 or 3 does not want to unpack and
therefore Publisher cannot open it. Do you know any way in
which I can rescue what might be left?

Thank you in anticipation.

Elly

-----Original Message-----
Actually, Publisher 2002 is supposed to be able to import html and work on it as
a "native language". My limited experience with this was not to good, however.
I am not sure about Publisher 2003 in this regard.

Are you sure you do not have the original publisher files? You do not need the
htm or html files if the site was created in Publisher.

In any event, download the actual files from the server now to protect against
disaster until you figure out what you want to do. This might be a good time to
abandon Publisher and import the source code into Front Page or Dreamweaver and
patch it up. At 25 pages, you are already pushing the limit in Publisher,
especially if you are in Publisher 2003 (bloated code problem).

Good luck.

 

[David Bartosik MS MVP]

A pub site is contained within the Pub file itself so it is the important
file, not the html files on the server, they can always be recreated from
the Pub file. Though 2002 and 2003 do open html files.
I'd be willing to try some experimentation with versions 2002 and 2003 if
you post the URL of the site.

 

[Guest]

Thank you so much David, much appreciated.

www.professionalcounselling.co.uk

Elly

 

[David Bartosik MS MVP]

Nah, no good. 2002 pretty much trashes it. 2003 does a better job but
there'd still be so much fix-up work you'd just as well start over. And in
both cases you lose the menu bar.
Thing is the "ability" to open html files in Pub is designed for opening the
html files that version created, and in it's xml mode at that. Rather than
"other" html files.
I down-loaded the web site. If you wanted to send me your email address I
could send you the files. You can either open the web in FrontPage and then
proceed as is (FrontPage edits actual html files rather then use a
"middle-man" file i.e. .pub file) or you could copy paste the text into a
new Publisher web file starting over.
Let me know (email - (e-mail address removed))

 

[Elly Prior]

Thanks for that David.

-----Original Message-----
Nah, no good. 2002 pretty much trashes it. 2003 does a better job but
there'd still be so much fix-up work you'd just as well start over. And in
both cases you lose the menu bar.
Thing is the "ability" to open html files in Pub is designed for opening the
html files that version created, and in it's xml mode at that. Rather than
"other" html files.
I down-loaded the web site. If you wanted to send me your email address I
could send you the files. You can either open the web in FrontPage and then
proceed as is (FrontPage edits actual html files rather then use a
"middle-man" file i.e. .pub file) or you could copy paste the text into a
new Publisher web file starting over.
Let me know (email - (e-mail address removed))

--
David Bartosik - MS MVP
www.publishermvps.com




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[David Bartosik - MS MVP]

Clean design btw, good work.

 

[DavidF]

Elly, Have you tried copying the files over to your hard drive and opening
them there? Saving to, and opening from, floppies can create lots of
problems. DavidF

Thanks so much for that. I am using Publisher 2000. I am
not anticipating expanding the site, neither do I think
(but I don't know for sure) that it uses a lot of memory. I
am really an absolute novice and if I had known what
wonderful support there was here, I would have saved myself
days of frustration figuring things out.

So, the truth is I haven't a clue whether I have HTML
files, neither do I understand source code. I am very
grateful for your suggestion to download my site (I may
just about be able to do that!) in case of disaster.
However, I do not know how to you Front page and I started
to learn Dreamweaver, which given time I am sure I would
have come to grips with, but it just takes so long to start
from scratch. So, if I can transfer something straight in
there, I could just try to fiddle with it!

At the moment, I still have the original on 4 floppies,
compressed, but floppy 2 or 3 does not want to unpack and
therefore Publisher cannot open it. Do you know any way in
which I can rescue what might be left?

Thank you in anticipation.

Elly

 

[Elly Prior]

Thanks for that DavidF. I have had a go, but cannot copy
either as two of the four floppies cannot be read (get
stuck half way through).

It looks I will just have to do it again. Oh well ...

Elly

-----Original Message-----
Elly, Have you tried copying the files over to your hard drive and opening
them there? Saving to, and opening from, floppies can create lots of
problems. DavidF

 

[Elly]

Thank you for the compliment, but what does btw mean?

 

[David Bartosik MS MVP]

by the way

Thank you for the compliment, but what does btw mean?

 

[analog]

Take the floppies to a local computer shoppe or computer guru; they may have
some utilities that can read the damaged files. Also, are you reading the disks
on the exact same drive they were created on? Sometimes that makes a
difference. In the alternative, try to read them on another drive just to see
what happens (it may yield diagnostic clues if nothing else).

You mentioned the floppies are compressed. If the compression was done in some
sort of back-up program, Publisher may not be able to directly read the files.
You may have to go thru a resurrect routine to make the files readable by mere
mortal programs.

 

[Elly]

Thanks very much for that. They were created with a
different drive (completely burnt by a viruswill). I will
take them elsewhere.

 

[analog]

Use that drive if you can, even if you have to temporarily install it in another
computer.

Long experience has taught to never ever trust any of the backup programs that
compress files since they very well may not restore properly. What we do here
is that every computer has two hard drives, and we make a clone copy of the C
drive periodically on the second drive. Critical work product files (like our
website Publisher files) are also copied to the hard drives in another building
by way of the network. That means that there are three or four copies of all
critical work product files on at least two machines in different buildings.
Real security nuts will insist on removable media back-ups as well, but this
system has served us well for many years. The main advantage is that even in
the event of a hard drive crash, a machine can be running again in a matter of
minutes on the cloned drive already sitting inside it.

 

[David Bartosik - MS MVP]

What I suggest, assuming the web server has the space available, is to
upload the pub file to the web server for backup purposes. If you lose or
damage your copy you can go to the server for it and download it. Also hosts
are very good about doing backups of their customer accounts so the pub file
will be well taken care of.

 

[analog]

Very good suggestion. I forgot to mention that. We do that also. It means you
can get at your original Publisher files from anywhere in the world, should the
need ever arise.

 

[Elly]

Thank you so much for all that. I really feel a bit
sheepish now, having clearly been too trusting (read:
ignorant!)