Microsoft project 2003 - progress lines

A

anto

I have prepared a plan for a particular project and as part of the
reporting process on this baseline plan I have introduced a progress
line to measure progress. Due to a massive increase in resources the
project is far exceeding the original plan. However the peaks on the
progress line will not visually show that the project is ahead of
schedule. When a project is behind schedule Microsoft project
adequately measures this negative aspect through the progress line.
The tracking Gantt view shows the summery progress as been correct but
the progress line does not correlate with this. I have tried the help
feature in Microsoft 2003 and it suggested that I tick the box "edits
to total task % complete will be spread to the status date". This had
no effect. If anybody has any suggestions on how to correct this it
would be appreciated.
 
R

Rod Gill

I recommend never using Progress lines. A much better way of updating is to
make sure there is no incomplete work in the past and no started work in the
future. Actual Start, Actual duration and remaining duration are the basic
minimum updates to do. This method basically has the progress line always on
today's date.

If you do not update this way, then you lose any real idea of what work
needs doing this week, what the current critical path is and any clear idea
of what needs to be done to finish successfully from here on.

So, I recommend turning the progress lines off and updating task progress to
reflect what actually happened and then re-schedule your project based on
real progress so far. Today's date should always be passing thru tasks that
are currently under way.

--

Rod Gill
Project MVP

Project VBA Book, for details visit:
http://www.projectvbabook.com

NEW!! Web based VBA training course delivered by me. For details visit:
http://projectservertraining.com/learning/index.aspx
 
J

Jim Aksel

Rod - I think what he's looking for is a little different. I agree with your
statements.
I think what Anto is looking for has to do with the display of the vertical
progress line, not the black horizontal progress bars inside of the gantt bar.

When a task has [Actual Start]<[Status Date] and the progress (black line)
in the Gantt Bar is expected to be (for example) 50%... if I am 75% complete,
the black line draws to the right of the status date. That's OK, I am ahead
of schedule.

Now, inserting the Progress Line... no matter what I try, I cannot get the
Progress Line to draw to the right of the status date. If the task was at
10% Complete (and it should be at 50%), then the Progress line changes to the
left accordindly. I think Anto wants to see similar behavior for tasks that
have a higher %Complete than what "as scheduled" would show.

I was unable to find a work around for the default behavior. I don;t think
the Progress Lines can be modified as such using VBA either. I think this
one is a "Sorry, can't be done". With that said, I am sure someone will post
to prove me a liar. :)
--
If this post was helpful, please consider rating it.

Jim

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for FAQs and more information
about Microsoft Project
 
R

Rod Gill

I assumed the vertical progress lines, not the black progress bars. The
progress lines to my knowledge were added as they like to track projects in
Japan using them (don't know if this is true). If you have a task that
should have finished last week that is only 50% complete, progress lines
kink into the past. The task should have remaining work dragged into the
future to mark when it is going to be done, or the duration extended to
again reflect the new finish date. Either way the progress line should end
up on today's (or the status date's) date.

--

Rod Gill
Project MVP

Project VBA Book, for details visit:
http://www.projectvbabook.com

NEW!! Web based VBA training course delivered by me. For details visit:
http://projectservertraining.com/learning/index.aspx


----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Jim Aksel said:
Rod - I think what he's looking for is a little different. I agree with
your
statements.
I think what Anto is looking for has to do with the display of the
vertical
progress line, not the black horizontal progress bars inside of the gantt
bar.

When a task has [Actual Start]<[Status Date] and the progress (black line)
in the Gantt Bar is expected to be (for example) 50%... if I am 75%
complete,
the black line draws to the right of the status date. That's OK, I am
ahead
of schedule.

Now, inserting the Progress Line... no matter what I try, I cannot get the
Progress Line to draw to the right of the status date. If the task was at
10% Complete (and it should be at 50%), then the Progress line changes to
the
left accordindly. I think Anto wants to see similar behavior for tasks
that
have a higher %Complete than what "as scheduled" would show.

I was unable to find a work around for the default behavior. I don;t
think
the Progress Lines can be modified as such using VBA either. I think this
one is a "Sorry, can't be done". With that said, I am sure someone will
post
to prove me a liar. :)
--
If this post was helpful, please consider rating it.

Jim

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for FAQs and more information
about Microsoft Project



Rod Gill said:
I recommend never using Progress lines. A much better way of updating is
to
make sure there is no incomplete work in the past and no started work in
the
future. Actual Start, Actual duration and remaining duration are the
basic
minimum updates to do. This method basically has the progress line always
on
today's date.

If you do not update this way, then you lose any real idea of what work
needs doing this week, what the current critical path is and any clear
idea
of what needs to be done to finish successfully from here on.

So, I recommend turning the progress lines off and updating task progress
to
reflect what actually happened and then re-schedule your project based on
real progress so far. Today's date should always be passing thru tasks
that
are currently under way.

--

Rod Gill
Project MVP

Project VBA Book, for details visit:
http://www.projectvbabook.com

NEW!! Web based VBA training course delivered by me. For details visit:
http://projectservertraining.com/learning/index.aspx
 
G

Gérard Ducouret

Hello

I fully agree Rod's statement : <<I recommend never using Progress lines. >>
Nevertheless, it's possible to do what anto want to do (I never do it by
myself):
Tools / Options... / Calculation / Edits to total task % complete will be
spread to the status date.
NB : this option has to be set *before* you enter actuals on the task.

Hope this helps,

Gérard Ducouret

Rod Gill said:
I assumed the vertical progress lines, not the black progress bars. The
progress lines to my knowledge were added as they like to track projects in
Japan using them (don't know if this is true). If you have a task that
should have finished last week that is only 50% complete, progress lines
kink into the past. The task should have remaining work dragged into the
future to mark when it is going to be done, or the duration extended to
again reflect the new finish date. Either way the progress line should end
up on today's (or the status date's) date.

--

Rod Gill
Project MVP

Project VBA Book, for details visit:
http://www.projectvbabook.com

NEW!! Web based VBA training course delivered by me. For details visit:
http://projectservertraining.com/learning/index.aspx


----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Jim Aksel said:
Rod - I think what he's looking for is a little different. I agree with
your
statements.
I think what Anto is looking for has to do with the display of the
vertical
progress line, not the black horizontal progress bars inside of the gantt
bar.

When a task has [Actual Start]<[Status Date] and the progress (black
line)
in the Gantt Bar is expected to be (for example) 50%... if I am 75%
complete,
the black line draws to the right of the status date. That's OK, I am
ahead
of schedule.

Now, inserting the Progress Line... no matter what I try, I cannot get
the
Progress Line to draw to the right of the status date. If the task was
at
10% Complete (and it should be at 50%), then the Progress line changes to
the
left accordindly. I think Anto wants to see similar behavior for tasks
that
have a higher %Complete than what "as scheduled" would show.

I was unable to find a work around for the default behavior. I don;t
think
the Progress Lines can be modified as such using VBA either. I think
this
one is a "Sorry, can't be done". With that said, I am sure someone will
post
to prove me a liar. :)
--
If this post was helpful, please consider rating it.

Jim

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for FAQs and more information
about Microsoft Project



Rod Gill said:
I recommend never using Progress lines. A much better way of updating is
to
make sure there is no incomplete work in the past and no started work in
the
future. Actual Start, Actual duration and remaining duration are the
basic
minimum updates to do. This method basically has the progress line
always on
today's date.

If you do not update this way, then you lose any real idea of what work
needs doing this week, what the current critical path is and any clear
idea
of what needs to be done to finish successfully from here on.

So, I recommend turning the progress lines off and updating task
progress to
reflect what actually happened and then re-schedule your project based
on
real progress so far. Today's date should always be passing thru tasks
that
are currently under way.

--

Rod Gill
Project MVP

Project VBA Book, for details visit:
http://www.projectvbabook.com

NEW!! Web based VBA training course delivered by me. For details visit:
http://projectservertraining.com/learning/index.aspx


----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


I have prepared a plan for a particular project and as part of the
reporting process on this baseline plan I have introduced a progress
line to measure progress. Due to a massive increase in resources the
project is far exceeding the original plan. However the peaks on the
progress line will not visually show that the project is ahead of
schedule. When a project is behind schedule Microsoft project
adequately measures this negative aspect through the progress line.
The tracking Gantt view shows the summery progress as been correct but
the progress line does not correlate with this. I have tried the help
feature in Microsoft 2003 and it suggested that I tick the box "edits
to total task % complete will be spread to the status date". This had
no effect. If anybody has any suggestions on how to correct this it
would be appreciated.
 
J

Jim Aksel

Gerard, I tested that scenario and it works fine. The progress line kinks to
the right of the status date for tasks ahead of schedule. It also kinks to
the left for tasks behind schedule.

The important feature was to do things *before* enterring actuals.
--
If this post was helpful, please consider rating it.

Jim

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for FAQs and more information
about Microsoft Project



Gérard Ducouret said:
Hello

I fully agree Rod's statement : <<I recommend never using Progress lines. >>
Nevertheless, it's possible to do what anto want to do (I never do it by
myself):
Tools / Options... / Calculation / Edits to total task % complete will be
spread to the status date.
NB : this option has to be set *before* you enter actuals on the task.

Hope this helps,

Gérard Ducouret

Rod Gill said:
I assumed the vertical progress lines, not the black progress bars. The
progress lines to my knowledge were added as they like to track projects in
Japan using them (don't know if this is true). If you have a task that
should have finished last week that is only 50% complete, progress lines
kink into the past. The task should have remaining work dragged into the
future to mark when it is going to be done, or the duration extended to
again reflect the new finish date. Either way the progress line should end
up on today's (or the status date's) date.

--

Rod Gill
Project MVP

Project VBA Book, for details visit:
http://www.projectvbabook.com

NEW!! Web based VBA training course delivered by me. For details visit:
http://projectservertraining.com/learning/index.aspx


----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Jim Aksel said:
Rod - I think what he's looking for is a little different. I agree with
your
statements.
I think what Anto is looking for has to do with the display of the
vertical
progress line, not the black horizontal progress bars inside of the gantt
bar.

When a task has [Actual Start]<[Status Date] and the progress (black
line)
in the Gantt Bar is expected to be (for example) 50%... if I am 75%
complete,
the black line draws to the right of the status date. That's OK, I am
ahead
of schedule.

Now, inserting the Progress Line... no matter what I try, I cannot get
the
Progress Line to draw to the right of the status date. If the task was
at
10% Complete (and it should be at 50%), then the Progress line changes to
the
left accordindly. I think Anto wants to see similar behavior for tasks
that
have a higher %Complete than what "as scheduled" would show.

I was unable to find a work around for the default behavior. I don;t
think
the Progress Lines can be modified as such using VBA either. I think
this
one is a "Sorry, can't be done". With that said, I am sure someone will
post
to prove me a liar. :)
--
If this post was helpful, please consider rating it.

Jim

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for FAQs and more information
about Microsoft Project



:

I recommend never using Progress lines. A much better way of updating is
to
make sure there is no incomplete work in the past and no started work in
the
future. Actual Start, Actual duration and remaining duration are the
basic
minimum updates to do. This method basically has the progress line
always on
today's date.

If you do not update this way, then you lose any real idea of what work
needs doing this week, what the current critical path is and any clear
idea
of what needs to be done to finish successfully from here on.

So, I recommend turning the progress lines off and updating task
progress to
reflect what actually happened and then re-schedule your project based
on
real progress so far. Today's date should always be passing thru tasks
that
are currently under way.

--

Rod Gill
Project MVP

Project VBA Book, for details visit:
http://www.projectvbabook.com

NEW!! Web based VBA training course delivered by me. For details visit:
http://projectservertraining.com/learning/index.aspx


----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


I have prepared a plan for a particular project and as part of the
reporting process on this baseline plan I have introduced a progress
line to measure progress. Due to a massive increase in resources the
project is far exceeding the original plan. However the peaks on the
progress line will not visually show that the project is ahead of
schedule. When a project is behind schedule Microsoft project
adequately measures this negative aspect through the progress line.
The tracking Gantt view shows the summery progress as been correct but
the progress line does not correlate with this. I have tried the help
feature in Microsoft 2003 and it suggested that I tick the box "edits
to total task % complete will be spread to the status date". This had
no effect. If anybody has any suggestions on how to correct this it
would be appreciated.
 
J

Jim Aksel

See - Gerard proved me the liar.

Jim Aksel said:
Rod - I think what he's looking for is a little different. I agree with your
statements.
I think what Anto is looking for has to do with the display of the vertical
progress line, not the black horizontal progress bars inside of the gantt bar.

When a task has [Actual Start]<[Status Date] and the progress (black line)
in the Gantt Bar is expected to be (for example) 50%... if I am 75% complete,
the black line draws to the right of the status date. That's OK, I am ahead
of schedule.

Now, inserting the Progress Line... no matter what I try, I cannot get the
Progress Line to draw to the right of the status date. If the task was at
10% Complete (and it should be at 50%), then the Progress line changes to the
left accordindly. I think Anto wants to see similar behavior for tasks that
have a higher %Complete than what "as scheduled" would show.

I was unable to find a work around for the default behavior. I don;t think
the Progress Lines can be modified as such using VBA either. I think this
one is a "Sorry, can't be done". With that said, I am sure someone will post
to prove me a liar. :)
--
If this post was helpful, please consider rating it.

Jim

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for FAQs and more information
about Microsoft Project



Rod Gill said:
I recommend never using Progress lines. A much better way of updating is to
make sure there is no incomplete work in the past and no started work in the
future. Actual Start, Actual duration and remaining duration are the basic
minimum updates to do. This method basically has the progress line always on
today's date.

If you do not update this way, then you lose any real idea of what work
needs doing this week, what the current critical path is and any clear idea
of what needs to be done to finish successfully from here on.

So, I recommend turning the progress lines off and updating task progress to
reflect what actually happened and then re-schedule your project based on
real progress so far. Today's date should always be passing thru tasks that
are currently under way.

--

Rod Gill
Project MVP

Project VBA Book, for details visit:
http://www.projectvbabook.com

NEW!! Web based VBA training course delivered by me. For details visit:
http://projectservertraining.com/learning/index.aspx
 
G

Gérard Ducouret

Hello Jim,

Thanks for your feed back ! ;-)

Gérard

Jim Aksel said:
Gerard, I tested that scenario and it works fine. The progress line kinks
to
the right of the status date for tasks ahead of schedule. It also kinks
to
the left for tasks behind schedule.

The important feature was to do things *before* enterring actuals.
--
If this post was helpful, please consider rating it.

Jim

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for FAQs and more information
about Microsoft Project



Gérard Ducouret said:
Hello

I fully agree Rod's statement : <<I recommend never using Progress lines.Nevertheless, it's possible to do what anto want to do (I never do it by
myself):
Tools / Options... / Calculation / Edits to total task % complete will be
spread to the status date.
NB : this option has to be set *before* you enter actuals on the task.

Hope this helps,

Gérard Ducouret

"Rod Gill" <rod AT project-systems DOT co DOT nz> a écrit dans le message
de
I assumed the vertical progress lines, not the black progress bars. The
progress lines to my knowledge were added as they like to track projects
in
Japan using them (don't know if this is true). If you have a task that
should have finished last week that is only 50% complete, progress lines
kink into the past. The task should have remaining work dragged into the
future to mark when it is going to be done, or the duration extended to
again reflect the new finish date. Either way the progress line should
end
up on today's (or the status date's) date.

--

Rod Gill
Project MVP

Project VBA Book, for details visit:
http://www.projectvbabook.com

NEW!! Web based VBA training course delivered by me. For details visit:
http://projectservertraining.com/learning/index.aspx


----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Rod - I think what he's looking for is a little different. I agree
with
your
statements.
I think what Anto is looking for has to do with the display of the
vertical
progress line, not the black horizontal progress bars inside of the
gantt
bar.

When a task has [Actual Start]<[Status Date] and the progress (black
line)
in the Gantt Bar is expected to be (for example) 50%... if I am 75%
complete,
the black line draws to the right of the status date. That's OK, I am
ahead
of schedule.

Now, inserting the Progress Line... no matter what I try, I cannot get
the
Progress Line to draw to the right of the status date. If the task
was
at
10% Complete (and it should be at 50%), then the Progress line changes
to
the
left accordindly. I think Anto wants to see similar behavior for
tasks
that
have a higher %Complete than what "as scheduled" would show.

I was unable to find a work around for the default behavior. I don;t
think
the Progress Lines can be modified as such using VBA either. I think
this
one is a "Sorry, can't be done". With that said, I am sure someone
will
post
to prove me a liar. :)
--
If this post was helpful, please consider rating it.

Jim

Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for FAQs and more information
about Microsoft Project



:

I recommend never using Progress lines. A much better way of updating
is
to
make sure there is no incomplete work in the past and no started work
in
the
future. Actual Start, Actual duration and remaining duration are the
basic
minimum updates to do. This method basically has the progress line
always on
today's date.

If you do not update this way, then you lose any real idea of what
work
needs doing this week, what the current critical path is and any
clear
idea
of what needs to be done to finish successfully from here on.

So, I recommend turning the progress lines off and updating task
progress to
reflect what actually happened and then re-schedule your project
based
on
real progress so far. Today's date should always be passing thru
tasks
that
are currently under way.

--

Rod Gill
Project MVP

Project VBA Book, for details visit:
http://www.projectvbabook.com

NEW!! Web based VBA training course delivered by me. For details
visit:
http://projectservertraining.com/learning/index.aspx


----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


I have prepared a plan for a particular project and as part of the
reporting process on this baseline plan I have introduced a
progress
line to measure progress. Due to a massive increase in resources
the
project is far exceeding the original plan. However the peaks on
the
progress line will not visually show that the project is ahead of
schedule. When a project is behind schedule Microsoft project
adequately measures this negative aspect through the progress line.
The tracking Gantt view shows the summery progress as been correct
but
the progress line does not correlate with this. I have tried the
help
feature in Microsoft 2003 and it suggested that I tick the box
"edits
to total task % complete will be spread to the status date". This
had
no effect. If anybody has any suggestions on how to correct this it
would be appreciated.
 

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