Microsoft Publisher 2002 - pdfs and a margin around the printed pd

[BASS3539]

Hello

A bit – no a big bit of help needed from anyone please –

I am putting a magazine together but I am really stuck with a problem and I
just cannot work out the answer - its probably staring at me but I don't see
it.

I have created the back and front page of the magazine in Microsoft
Publisher 2002 but – for the printer (as in commercial printer person I have
to use) I would convert the Microsoft Publisher file (the magazine) into a
pdf file and he would print from that – no problems yet.

But – the back page has been sold as a full page advertisement which has
arrived to me from the advertising company as a pdf – still no problems yet.
I convert my Microsoft Publisher front and back cover into a pdf file as I
previously said – OK – then I replace my back page with the advertisement
thus forming a new back page – still no problem they look fine on the screen
- (and here is where the problem comes in) I know decide to print the front
and back cover myself just to check it over – and when I have printed them
off I have a margin all the way round both new front and back pages.

I can't seem to get rid of them

The printer is set for A4 2.1cm x 2.97cm – the problem is not the computer,
nor the software I am just not doing something to get rid of the margins –
any thoughts…….?

Thanks

Chris Helme

 

[Mary Sauer]

Do you have a borderless printer? If not:
Tutorial: Finding your Maximum Print Area
http://ed.mvps.org/Static.aspx?=Publisher/horidiag

 

[BASS3539]

Do you have a borderless printer? If not:
Tutorial: Finding your Maximum Print Area
http://ed.mvps.org/Static.aspx?=Publisher/horidiag

Hello

I tried what you suggested and have just printed it off again and no change
- any other suggestions

Chris

 

[Maureen]

I tried what you suggested and . . .

That doesn't tell us very much. You say that you tried what Mary suggested,
but you don't tell us what the results were? Was there a non printable
border reported by WordPad? If so, what was the size of it? And when you
performed the second test (the vertical and horizontal lines) did the actual
measured non printable borders agree with the values reported by WordPad?
(By the way, I would advise you to repeat the WordPad test using Microsoft
Word instead, because many versions of NotePad are not very reliable in that
respect, or alternatively you can use a little bit of code if you are
familar with VBA). Anyway, what results did you get?

and have just printed it off again and no change

Performing the test will not change anything! It is just a test to check the
current non printable margins of your printer. Many printers have a non
printable margin which they cannot print into, and anything you attempt to
print into those locations will be clipped. The test is merely a method of
determining the current non printable borders of your currently selected
printer. What were the results (after repeatng the test with MS Word instead
of WordPad)?

Many printers are capable of changing the size of those unprintable margins,
and some are capable of reducing them to zero. Have a look at the properties
for your printer using the Control Panel "printers" applet. Right click your
printer in the Control Panel applet and select "properties" and check them
out. The location of the settings varies on different printers, but look for
things like "Printing Preferences" and generally look around the various
options looking for things like "full bleed printing" or "minimize margins"
or "borderless printing" or something similar. When you find it, change it
to "minimize margins" (or whatever). Then try both tests again. What are the
new results? By the way, many HP inkjet printers have both a "minimize
margins" setting and a "borderless printing" setting. On the HP printers I
have used the former works in a sort of "partially works" way, and the
latter is just a complete waste of time except for certain very specific
circumstances, and even then it is totally inaccurate!

Some printers are very good at reducing those unprintable margins (many
Canon inkjets in particular are very good and many of the Canon "SmartBase"
models can reduce them to zero with great accuracy) and some are not so good
at it (many Epson printers, for example) and some are totally rubbish at it
(many HP printers). Basically you've just got to hope that you've got a
printer that does it well.

By the way, what printer are you using (exact type and make and model
number)?

 

[Maureen]

(By the way, I would advise you to repeat the WordPad test using
Microsoft Word instead, because many versions of NotePad are
not very reliable in that respect . . .

Sorry. I of course meant to say, "many versions of WordPad are not reliable
in that respect".

 

[Charles W Davis]

My Epson printer will not print full bleed unless I specify Premium Photo
paper,

 

[Mary Sauer]

Then specify photo paper, printers are dumb, it won't know you have regular
paper in the tray.

 

[Charles W Davis]

Mary,
I understand that, but the OP may have been "testing" and didn't want to set
it for photo paper...

 

[CyberTaz]

It's also my understanding that type of stock specified changes how the
printer applies ink & can render a less than desirable - perhaps even messy
- result. I guess that can vary from one printer to another, though.

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

 

[Mary Sauer]

I normally save my publication as a hi-res image and use the printer software to
print. It will print borderless this way, no matter the stock choice I make.

You have different resolution choices when you setup your print. This is usual
for most all printers.