Migrating Word to new computer

[Kurt Ullman]

I am planning to move Word to a new computer using migration
assistant. The Word that I bought originally had three licenses, and I
have used only the one. So, should I go ahead and migrate using MA or
should I have MA ignore word (and the rest of Office) and just install
it seperately?

 

[Elliott Roper]

I am planning to move Word to a new computer using migration
assistant. The Word that I bought originally had three licenses, and I
have used only the one. So, should I go ahead and migrate using MA or
should I have MA ignore word (and the rest of Office) and just install
it seperately?

Either would be fine.
If you expect your old machine to have Word in use on the same LAN at
the same time as you are using it on the new machine, use one of the
two spare keys. Word and the rest of Office will sniff the LAN, but no
further, looking for identical licences. The second to start will
self-immolate. That is designed behaviour with the standard licence.
You are permitted to use Word on a lappy and a desktop, but not
simultaneously AFAIK.

 

[Elliott Roper]

Either would be fine.
If you expect your old machine to have Word in use on the same LAN at
the same time as you are using it on the new machine, use one of the
two spare keys. Word and the rest of Office will sniff the LAN, but no
further, looking for identical licences. The second to start will
self-immolate. That is designed behaviour with the standard licence.
You are permitted to use Word on a lappy and a desktop, but not
simultaneously AFAIK.

OH. I forgot to add. It is possible to change the key on a working
version of Office with a magic variation of the remove Office Tool. I
think it involves holding down the option key at some point to get more
choices in a menu.
So you can us Migration Assistant and use a spare key.

 

[Kurt Ullman]

Either would be fine.
If you expect your old machine to have Word in use on the same LAN at
the same time as you are using it on the new machine, use one of the
two spare keys. Word and the rest of Office will sniff the LAN, but no
further, looking for identical licences. The second to start will
self-immolate. That is designed behaviour with the standard licence.
You are permitted to use Word on a lappy and a desktop, but not
simultaneously AFAIK.

I will have the old one on a laptop connected via WiFi. I am
assuming it is probably easiest to not migrate and install it after the
rest is in place so I can use the second license.

 

[Phillip Jones]

I believe the exact word or approximation is:

Your allowed to install one single user License copy on

One desktop that you own
One Laptop that you own
&
one computer at your place of employment that is under your direct control

At no point may another user be allowed to use this copy.

Also none of these machine may be attached to the same network and be
operational at the same time.

If you are operating the software from computers attached to the same
network, only one copy of the software may be allowed to operate at any
one time.

if two copies or more bearing the same Serial number/License Key becomes
operational at the same time you are in violation of the EULA.

Either would be fine.
If you expect your old machine to have Word in use on the same LAN at
the same time as you are using it on the new machine, use one of the
two spare keys. Word and the rest of Office will sniff the LAN, but no
further, looking for identical licences. The second to start will
self-immolate. That is designed behaviour with the standard licence.
You are permitted to use Word on a lappy and a desktop, but not
simultaneously AFAIK.

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[Elliott Roper]

I believe the exact word or approximation is: Make yer mind up Philip!!
Your allowed to install one single user License copy on

One desktop that you own
One Laptop that you own
&
one computer at your place of employment that is under your direct control

At no point may another user be allowed to use this copy.

Also none of these machine may be attached to the same network and be
operational at the same time.

If you are operating the software from computers attached to the same
network, only one copy of the software may be allowed to operate at any
one time.

if two copies or more bearing the same Serial number/License Key becomes
operational at the same time you are in violation of the EULA.

What's more to the point, the little sniveller won't work if they are
on the same LAN. Otherwise, take a view on whether you get caught by
the netcops. The fair thing is don't let another person use your copy
of Office.

 

[Kurt Ullman]

What's more to the point, the little sniveller won't work if they are
on the same LAN. Otherwise, take a view on whether you get caught by
the netcops. The fair thing is don't let another person use your copy
of Office.

Since my original question was whether I should migrate and then use
one of the two licenses I originally bought and haven't used) or should
I just migrate everything else and then install Office (with the second
license number) afterward, I am not sure what above has to do it with
it.

So, is there a preferred way to do this legally?

 

[Elliott Roper]

Since my original question was whether I should migrate and then use
one of the two licenses I originally bought and haven't used) or should
I just migrate everything else and then install Office (with the second
license number) afterward, I am not sure what above has to do it with
it.

So, is there a preferred way to do this legally?

Either is fine.
I was taking the opportunity to wind up my pet Phillip ;-)

You have three keys (presumably with teacher and student edition)
If it is only you, in the circumstances Phillip (actually quite
sensibly) described, and you actually care about not wasting keys,
migrate and do nothing. The migration process will preserve the
existing key.
If somebody else might use your old computer while you are using yours,
you can either (completely remove Office) and re-install on one machine
with a new key or do the option-Remove-Office dance on your new one.

You will be perfectly legal and will probably go to heaven.
And nobody will care.

 

[Kurt Ullman]

I
Either is fine.
I was taking the opportunity to wind up my pet Phillip ;-)

Collateral damage, I can certainly forgive that.. especially for
such as worthy cause (g).

You will be perfectly legal and will probably go to heaven.
And nobody will care.

I'll care. Especially since there are indications that Heaven may be
run using Windows (I mean how else do you explain the platypus) and I
don't want to take a chance. (g).

 

[Carl Witthoft]

You have three keys (presumably with teacher and student edition)
If it is only you, in the circumstances Phillip (actually quite
sensibly) described, and you actually care about not wasting keys,
migrate and do nothing. The migration process will preserve the
existing key.
If somebody else might use your old computer while you are using yours,
you can either (completely remove Office) and re-install on one machine
with a new key or do the option-Remove-Office dance on your new one.

BTW, if you intend to retire your old machine (wipe the drive, or
whatever), call Microsoft's service line and they will give you a
replacement serial number for the one you've "used up." It took me
about 20 minutes on the phone to reach the right person with the right
question, and turns out you need to have your install CD handy to read
the secret disk number off the disk itself, but otherwise no hassle.

 

[Elliott Roper]

Collateral damage, I can certainly forgive that.. especially for
such as worthy cause (g).




I'll care. Especially since there are indications that Heaven may be
run using Windows (I mean how else do you explain the platypus) and I
don't want to take a chance. (g).

Nah! heaven is so full of penguins, it *has* to be running Linux.

 

[Kurt Ullman]

BTW, if you intend to retire your old machine (wipe the drive, or
whatever), call Microsoft's service line and they will give you a
replacement serial number for the one you've "used up." It took me
about 20 minutes on the phone to reach the right person with the right
question, and turns out you need to have your install CD handy to read
the secret disk number off the disk itself, but otherwise no hassle.

I'm keeping both, thus the question. Thanks for the reply.

K

 

[Phillip Jones]

Make yer mind up Philip!!

That's what happens when your trying to recite from memory.

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[Phillip Jones]

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I'll care. Especially since there are indications that Heaven may be
run using Windows (I mean how else do you explain the platypus) and I
don't want to take a chance. (g).

Hurump! Let us not bring that up. we are treading on dangerous ground as
it is. using a Mac product created by Microsoft.

we don't want to dis our (choke , choke) benefactor.

From what I understand from an article I just read yesterday from cNet
News and pretty much repeated on ZDNet and Computerworld. an article on
Apple seems to imply its questionable whether there will be a Mac
version of Office 2010. possibly will be killed off in 2010. Office 2008
will be the last sure thing. I hope they are wrong. But, with MS
Dropping support for windows Media Player for Mac, and Internet Explorer
for Mac, anything is possible.
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[Phillip Jones]

Nah! heaven is so full of penguins, it *has* to be running Linux.

I heard it had rows and rows, and rows of McIntosh Apples

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[CyberTaz]

WMP & IE don't make any money - Office:Mac *does* ;-)

Also keep in mind that the 'sources' you cite need to perpetuate their own
existence - i.e., if there's not enough factual information to satisfy the
daily requirement fill in the gaps with speculation, fabrication & innuendo.
That's not to say that it *won't* happen, but rather that I simply don't
know - and that's the point... They don't know either %^)

 

[Michel Bintener]

WMP & IE don't make any money - Office:Mac *does* ;-)

And, let's not forget, MacBU was never responsible for WMP; all praise for
the WMP Mac version has to go to the Windows Media team. (Please note the
heavy use of sarcasm in that last part of the sentence.)

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[Phillip Jones, CET]

The articles seemed to imply now that Macs are capable of running MS XP
or VISTA that the thinking is that its really pointless to have two
versions. Does Sound Plausible.

I'm hoping everyone is wrong I don't relish the idea of having to
operate Windows. My previous run in with windows (3.3.1 and 95) was
pretty.

WMP & IE don't make any money - Office:Mac *does* ;-)

Also keep in mind that the 'sources' you cite need to perpetuate their own
existence - i.e., if there's not enough factual information to satisfy the
daily requirement fill in the gaps with speculation, fabrication & innuendo.
That's not to say that it *won't* happen, but rather that I simply don't
know - and that's the point... They don't know either %^)

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[Phillip Jones]

I don't know, but judging from past history, and what us Mac Users have
been through, it wouldn't be surprising.

WMP & IE don't make any money - Office:Mac *does* ;-)

Also keep in mind that the 'sources' you cite need to perpetuate their own
existence - i.e., if there's not enough factual information to satisfy the
daily requirement fill in the gaps with speculation, fabrication & innuendo.
That's not to say that it *won't* happen, but rather that I simply don't
know - and that's the point... They don't know either %^)

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[John McGhie]

Well, right at the moment, Microsoft is planning and designing Mac Office
2010. In large-scale software development, the Planning and Design teams
begin work on the one after next long before the development and testing
departments have finished producing the next version.

Yes, I have seen software vendors kill products at the very last minute, but
not Microsoft, if I remember. Their forecasting and market planning is
usually pretty good: they won't normally start work on a product they do not
eventually bring to market.

So I think we can take it as near-certain that there will be a "Mac Office
after the next one". Whether that will be in 2010 or a little later we will
all have to wait to find out.

The disappearance of Windows Media Player is another of those
extraordinarily silly pissing contests between Apple and Microsoft.
Microsoft would like to add the iTunes formats to WMP, Apple would like to
add the Windows Media Player 10+ formats to iTunes. But neither company
will give the other a licence to do so, so we get this absurd stand-off.

Internet Explorer is a different argument: Bob's correct: it doesn't make
money. On Windows they can justify the cost because it forms the display
engine for the Windows user interface. In a sense, they HAVE to build it in
order to make Windows work, so they might as well put some serious effort
into making it work properly.

However, it IS a lot of work to build a full-featured browser, and it needs
to be very tightly integrated with the operating system in order to make it
safe and fast. Given the degree of OS integration required, the work they
do on Vista won't carry over to the Mac. They would have to write a new one
for the Mac. And Apple is already doing that, with Safari. Given that Mac
users already have the choice of Safari or FireFox, it would seem silly to
try to convince Microsoft's shareholders (basically: your pension fund and
mine...) to throw a lot of money at giving Mac users another expensive
full-featured browser.

Just my Two Renminbi worth...

The articles seemed to imply now that Macs are capable of running MS XP
or VISTA that the thinking is that its really pointless to have two
versions. Does Sound Plausible.

I'm hoping everyone is wrong I don't relish the idea of having to
operate Windows. My previous run in with windows (3.3.1 and 95) was
pretty.

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