More thesis fun! caption question

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Julia in Wisconsin

G'day gents and gurus (you can decide amongst yourselves who is whom
;-)

Thanks again for all the help. I promise to always always make
changes via the Format>Styles pathway. I have lined up headings 1-9
as per Shauna's advice, with 1-5 being for the main text and 6-9 for
pre-text and post-text/appendix type stuff. I have created two new
styles for "Table Bold" and "Table Body," and I've adjusted the
"Caption" style to my liking.

I need to create a template for all this, right? I delete all the
text and then "save as" a .dot file, I think.

I still have questions, though, of course! I need to have a table of
contents, a table of tables and a table of figures. Will I need two
styles for captions--one for tables and one for figures--in order to
separate them out for the two lists?

Julia in Wisconsin
 
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Dayo Mitchell

Hi Julia,

The Insert Caption function can be set to Equation, Table, or Figure. The
Insert Table of Figures can also be set to Equation, Table, or Figure. I
suspect that so long as those are set properly in both dialogs, Word will
figure it out properly.

If necessary, clicking on Options in the TOF dialog does let you set the
style to build it from, and then, yes, I think you would need to use two
different styles for Table Caption and Figure Caption.

Don't know about the other two questions, very sorry.

Dayo
 
C

Clive Huggan

Mitchell at (e-mail address removed) wrote on 24/4/04
2:35 PM:
Hi Julia,

The Insert Caption function can be set to Equation, Table, or Figure. The
Insert Table of Figures can also be set to Equation, Table, or Figure. I
suspect that so long as those are set properly in both dialogs, Word will
figure it out properly.

If necessary, clicking on Options in the TOF dialog does let you set the
style to build it from, and then, yes, I think you would need to use two
different styles for Table Caption and Figure Caption.

Don't know about the other two questions, very sorry.

Dayo

That's about it, Julia. Then you would have a convenient place to hold
future changes that you might care to make, which could be upgradable on
documents based on this template. Of course, if you never intend to do the
same on other documents, by all means just leave the formatting in your
thesis.

For a fairly brief discussion of templates and their whys and wherefors, see
pages 78-80 of the notes on the way I use Word, titled "Bend Word to your
Will", downloadable free at
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/WordMac/Bend/BendWord.htm

Mine have different names (albeit identical structure and appearance), but I
see that in the "Table of Figures" tab in Insert menu -> Index and Tables I
have them both set on "Figure" in the scroll box under "Caption Label". Odd,
that.

Cheers,

Clive
 
J

Julia in Wisconsin

You are right, and it's working well. I now have a passable Table of
Contents, Table of Figures and Table of Tables. Whew!
For a fairly brief discussion of templates and their whys and wherefors, see
pages 78-80 of the notes on the way I use Word, titled "Bend Word to your
Will", downloadable free at
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/WordMac/Bend/BendWord.htm

Thanks Clive, I have downloaded that but I haven't read the whole
thing. I do intend to go through your directions sometime and purge
all the useless stuff that's there.

Thanks so much for your help--things are starting to look pretty put
together now!

Julia in Wisconsin
 
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Clive Huggan

[Comment inline]

You are right, and it's working well. I now have a passable Table of
Contents, Table of Figures and Table of Tables. Whew!


Thanks Clive, I have downloaded that but I haven't read the whole
thing.

Thank goodness! I've found when proof-reading it that hallucinations start
about 40 pages from the front! But most of the material is listed, in
effect, in dictionary style -- other than the styles section, hence my
giving you the page numbers. Clicking on the page numbers in the table of
contents, and using the "Find" command, is the best way of using the
document.
I do intend to go through your directions sometime and purge
all the useless stuff that's there.

I'm impressed by the rapidity with which you've taken up everybody's ideas!
It makes us feel *much* more useful, I can assure you. For my part, your
queries and our joint answering efforts have refreshed an area that was
getting rusty. So it's more of a two-way thing than you might realize.
Thanks so much for your help--things are starting to look pretty put
together now!

Keep coming back when you have time!

Clive in Oz
 
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John McGhie [MVP - Word]

Hi Julia:

Yes, that's it, exactly. However, you might like to leave samples of the
text in there, to remind yourself of how you intended various styles to be
used.

No, you will not need separate Caption styles: the TOC generator compiles
both based on the label Figure or Table at the front of the caption. It
also compiles the TOC itself, based on the Outline Level of the styles used
for the headings. If you use the built-in Heading styles, you won't have
any problems.

Take care to set your format for the TOC to "From Template". If you set it
to anything else, word will redefine the formatting of the TOC each time it
updates it. Using the From Template setting enables you to define the TOC
to be formatted the way you like it by changing the definitions of the TOC 1
through TOC 9 styles.

Hope this helps


This responds to article <[email protected]>,
from "Julia in Wisconsin said:
G'day gents and gurus (you can decide amongst yourselves who is whom
;-)

Thanks again for all the help. I promise to always always make
changes via the Format>Styles pathway. I have lined up headings 1-9
as per Shauna's advice, with 1-5 being for the main text and 6-9 for
pre-text and post-text/appendix type stuff. I have created two new
styles for "Table Bold" and "Table Body," and I've adjusted the
"Caption" style to my liking.

I need to create a template for all this, right? I delete all the
text and then "save as" a .dot file, I think.

I still have questions, though, of course! I need to have a table of
contents, a table of tables and a table of figures. Will I need two
styles for captions--one for tables and one for figures--in order to
separate them out for the two lists?

Julia in Wisconsin

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