moving table.!

V

via135

hi!

when i move a table within a page the text alignment gets changed, and
the table moves to
somewhere btwn the txt..! what's the correct way to move a table.?

-via135
 
R

Rob Schneider

*How* are you moving the table? Can't comment on correctness unless we
know more.

--rms
 
J

John McGhie

The correct way to move a table is to drag it, just as you are doing :)

However, you need to understand how Word's Layout Engine works.

Basically, there are two kinds of embedded objects in the text: In-line, and
Floating.

If you set the table's Text Wrapping to be "Inline", it behaves like a very
large single character, sitting on the line with the other text. It is part
of the text, and Word processes it just like all the other characters on the
page: it moves with the text, and you can't drag it.

If you set the Wrapping to be "Around", Word then treats the table as a
Floating object. This means it "floats" either in front of or behind the
text layer. You can then drag the table where you want it.

When you set a table to be Floating (or when you drag a table that was set
to Inline) the text must "get out of the way" to make room for the table.

If you click the "Positioning" button in that property sheet, you can
specify measurements to place the table exactly. It will still push the
text aside to do that.

However, it is essential to understand that in Word, any embedded object is
anchored to, and positioned with respect to, a paragraph.

The fundamental unit of a Word document is the paragraph: everything happens
with respect to a paragraph, which may or may not contain text. Always work
with your Show/Hide button turned on to reveal the paragraph marks,
otherwise you can't see what you are doing and you will chase your tail
forever :)

So when you are "Positioning" a table, know that the measurements are all
being calculated with respect to the beginning of the paragraph that the
anchor appears in. Turn "Object Anchors" on in your Word preferences, so
you can see where they are. They will then appear whenever you select a
floating object.

Because the table is always anchored to a paragraph, very strange things
happen if the paragraph gets shunted to the next page! Even though the
dialog enables you to specify positions with respect to the "Page", Word
can't actually DO that. Instead, it accepts your measurement (say: 5 cm
down from the top of the page and 3 cm in) and then works out how far the
table needs to be from the top left corner of its anchor paragraph to make
that happen.

When the paragraph changes page, the table will still be positioned with
respect to that paragraph, which may place the table on an entirely
different position in the new page.

Finally, you can drag the anchor to a different paragraph without moving the
table. This is very useful for ensuring that when you have finished, the
table is anchored to a paragraph ABOVE the table.

If you anchor a floating object to a paragraph below itself, the position of
the paragraph is dependent on the position and size of the floating object
from which the object position is being calculated.

Very high entertainment value is guaranteed, until you work out what's going
on!

Hope this helps


hi!

when i move a table within a page the text alignment gets changed, and
the table moves to
somewhere btwn the txt..! what's the correct way to move a table.?

-via135

This email is my business email -- Please do not email me about forum
matters unless you intend to pay!

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McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. | Ph: +61 (0)4 1209 1410
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]
 
C

CyberTaz

First you need to understand a little more about Tables & how word documents
are constructed : -)

There are no "pages" in the structure of a Word document -- regardless of
how it's designed to be presented on screen. Therefore, you can't just put
something somewhere, expect it to stay there *or* expect it to not have an
effect on the text flow. Any object you insert [including a table] is
attached to the text flow in one of two ways: In Line with Text or Floating.
Keeping that in mind...

When first inserted a table occupies a paragraph of it's own which spans
from L to R margin with a Text Wrapping property of "None". If you have the
non-printing characters (¶) displayed you'll see that a paragraph break is
created when you insert a table. If you modify its width the body text will
not reflow around the table.

As soon as you drag the table to another location its Text Wrapping property
is automatically set to "Around", which is why the body text reflows around
the table if the table doesn't fill the space between the margins.

As long as the table occupies a paragraph between 2 other paragraphs you can
have the body text stop before & resume after the table. But if you're
trying to position the table in the midst of a body text paragraph the text
will flow around it.

In order to suggest any options we need to know what specific version &
update level of Word you're using. Also, a complete & detailed description
of exactly what you're trying to accomplish would be helpful.

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
 

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