MS ACCESS for MAC

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alexalmendrades

Does anyone know if there is a MAC equivalent for Microsoft ACCESS?

I hooked up my friend's MAC to our work network and it works fine and can
access everything fine, but all our inventory/pricing is done on ACCESS.. is
there any way a MAC can access and open this type of document?

Aa
 
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Daiya Mitchell

Sorry, Access for Mac doesn't exist.

I don't think there is any application that can open and use access files on
the Mac, though there may be some that would open and convert them. But that
doesn't sound feasible for your situation. Running Windows in a virtual
machine might work for you.

Searching this group or the general web may turn up suggestions for
workarounds.
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.mac.office.entourage
 
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alexalmendrades

Where could I find a virtual machine?

Aa

Daiya Mitchell said:
Sorry, Access for Mac doesn't exist.

I don't think there is any application that can open and use access files on
the Mac, though there may be some that would open and convert them. But that
doesn't sound feasible for your situation. Running Windows in a virtual
machine might work for you.

Searching this group or the general web may turn up suggestions for
workarounds.
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.mac.office.entourage




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Kurt

alexalmendrades said:
Where could I find a virtual machine?

For the PowerMacs, you can buy Virtual PC and install Windows on your
Mac. For the Intel Macs, you can use a program like Parallels and also
run Windows on your Mac.

Microsoft, who bought Virtual PC a couple years ago, is not going to be
making a new version of it, but for those of us with PowerMacs, it'sa
still the way to go.
 
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CyberTaz

There may be some other options, but I'm real short on time right now. Will
try to provide some choices later this afternoon/evening.
 
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Jim Gordon MVP

Hi,

You can query Access data tables directly from Excel on the Mac. Details:
http://www.agentjim.com/MVP/Excel/Office2004andAccess.doc

You can not alter the tables, add or remove records, or use forms or reports
that were created in Access. For these things you would need to use a
virtual machine.

-Jim Gordon
Mac MVP


Does anyone know if there is a MAC equivalent for Microsoft ACCESS?

I hooked up my friend's MAC to our work network and it works fine and can
access everything fine, but all our inventory/pricing is done on ACCESS.. is
there any way a MAC can access and open this type of document?

Aa

--
Jim Gordon
Mac MVP

MVPs are not Microsoft Employees
MVP info
 
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CyberTaz

Jim beat me to it:), but just to add to his reply:

The use of VPC (etc.) suggested by others is viable, but the system will
probably need to be beefed up - anything less than a 1.8 GHz G5, 2 GB RAM
will probably not offer the performance you'd like, even though the *min*
reqs are somewhat lower. I run Access 2003 on a dual 2 GHz G5, 1.5 GB, VPC 7
& find it 'acceptable' for my needs, but wouldn't want to rely on it day
in/out for on-the-job use. I mostly tinker & experiment for PC classes I
give, etc.

To access the database you'll first need ODBC drivers such as what you'll
find referred to here:

http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/excel2004/using.aspx?pid=usingexcel200
4&type=howto&article=/mac/LIBRARY/how_to_articles/office2004/xl_ODBC.xml

You might want to take a look at that in addition to the excellent piece Jim
linked you to - much good info in his doc & far more detailed than the link
above.

In addition to XL, FileMaker Pro & other db apps for Mac can connect to
Access tables & queries and provide a somewhat more versatile & more
functional 'front-end' than a spreadsheet.

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
 
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Kurt

CyberTaz said:
Jim beat me to it:), but just to add to his reply:

The use of VPC (etc.) suggested by others is viable, but the system will
probably need to be beefed up - anything less than a 1.8 GHz G5, 2 GB RAM
will probably not offer the performance you'd like, even though the *min*
reqs are somewhat lower. I run Access 2003 on a dual 2 GHz G5, 1.5 GB, VPC 7
& find it 'acceptable' for my needs, but wouldn't want to rely on it day
in/out for on-the-job use. I mostly tinker & experiment for PC classes I
give, etc.

To access the database you'll first need ODBC drivers such as what you'll
find referred to here:

http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/excel2004/using.aspx?pid=usingexcel200
4&type=howto&article=/mac/LIBRARY/how_to_articles/office2004/xl_ODBC.xml

You might want to take a look at that in addition to the excellent piece Jim
linked you to - much good info in his doc & far more detailed than the link
above.

In addition to XL, FileMaker Pro & other db apps for Mac can connect to
Access tables & queries and provide a somewhat more versatile & more
functional 'front-end' than a spreadsheet.
If Filemaker Pro can read Access files, this would be a great way to go.
Filemaker Pro is such a better program, anyway.
 
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CyberTaz

You'd do best to contact FM Pro & get the scoop straight from the horses
mouth as to what may be involved... I've been away from that area from a
while, but ODBC should enable the type of accessibility suggested in the
post. You still won't be able to use any of the Access Forms or Reports but
should be able to query the file. I am certain that there are a number of
common import/export formats at the least.

Also, FM Pro 8.5 is Universal Binary so it will run native on an Intel
Mac... Although it isn't clear that you're using one.

Good Luck |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
 
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John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]

Hi Alex:

FileMaker Pro is a very good product. And it's built for Mac and PC.

See here:
http://www.filemaker.com/

Understand that it is not an "exact" equivalent. The only way to be sure it
will do what you want is to download the trial version and try it.

Cheers


Does anyone know if there is a MAC equivalent for Microsoft ACCESS?

I hooked up my friend's MAC to our work network and it works fine and can
access everything fine, but all our inventory/pricing is done on ACCESS.. is
there any way a MAC can access and open this type of document?

Aa

--

Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email
me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie <[email protected]>
Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant
Technical Writer.
Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410
 
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Jim Gordon MVP

Many users face the dilemma that Alex faces. In terms of a SQL GUI if you
already have Excel then a further expenditure on FileMaker seems wasteful to
me.

Excel makes a great reporting and analysis tool (better than FileMaker
IMHO). When combined with Word's data merge manager you can make reports
that far exceed what comes with MS Access.

I've not worked much with FileMaker's reporting tools so I don't know how
easy it is to create custom formats with FileMaker.

-Jim Gordon
Mac MVP


Quoting from "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]"
Hi Alex:

FileMaker Pro is a very good product. And it's built for Mac and PC.

See here:
http://www.filemaker.com/

Understand that it is not an "exact" equivalent. The only way to be sure it
will do what you want is to download the trial version and try it.

Cheers

--
Jim Gordon
Mac MVP

MVPs are not Microsoft Employees
MVP info
 
J

John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]

Hi Jim:

I would have to agree, if all he wants is a way to get at data.

I've had very little to do with FileMaker: In reporting, I think it's
stronger than Access. But I think both are a little "challenged" in SQL.

The later versions of Access offer fairly fully-featured SQL (some SQL
purists would say Access enables structures that SQL shouldn't really
allow...)

Debate rages as to whether Access "really" is a "relational" database. I
don't know enough about databases to know what the argument is here.
However as I understand it, Access can open and read/write an SQL database,
and perform relational queries/updates. I think FileMaker has limitations
there.

But I have seen some really impressive reporting and forms done in FileMaker
that I suspect would be difficult if not impossible in Access.

Cheers

Many users face the dilemma that Alex faces. In terms of a SQL GUI if you
already have Excel then a further expenditure on FileMaker seems wasteful to
me.

Excel makes a great reporting and analysis tool (better than FileMaker
IMHO). When combined with Word's data merge manager you can make reports
that far exceed what comes with MS Access.

I've not worked much with FileMaker's reporting tools so I don't know how
easy it is to create custom formats with FileMaker.

-Jim Gordon
Mac MVP


Quoting from "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]"
Hi Alex:

FileMaker Pro is a very good product. And it's built for Mac and PC.

See here:
http://www.filemaker.com/

Understand that it is not an "exact" equivalent. The only way to be sure it
will do what you want is to download the trial version and try it.

Cheers

--

Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email
me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie <[email protected]>
Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant
Technical Writer.
Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410
 
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Corentin Cras-Méneur

Jim Gordon MVP said:
I've not worked much with FileMaker's reporting tools so I don't know how
easy it is to create custom formats with FileMaker.


It's fairly easy. FMP has pretty good and easy reporting tools (at least
in version 8 and 8.5)

On the same topic, 4D http://www.4d.com/ can also make use of ODCB to
exchange data with Access.
(and on Windows, the app can use XSLT to generate Excel or Words
documents directly :) - they have a little movie about that here
http://www.4d.com/2004/movies/office_movie.html ).


Corentin

now if only they had a 2004 education version like they used to for the
version 2000.....
 
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Jim Gordon MVP

Hi John,

SQL is pretty much SQL no matter what application you use. Access is a
relational database - there's really nothing to debate. There are some
slight syntax variations among the various database applications
(maddeningly small ones like using a curly bracket in one and a [ bracket in
a different app), but the logic is exactly the same across the board.

The SQL GUI for Access, Microsoft Query, and FoxPro and the others look so
much alike you'd think they were versions of the same program. In a sense,
they are.
http://www.faqs.org/docs/ppbook/c1164.htm
http://www.samspublishing.com/articles/article.asp?p=29583&rl=1

For most Office users MSQuery is a fine way to get data to make reports.
However, you probably would not use it for large data sets. Excel can handle
up to 65,536 records from a single query. Any more than that and you need
some other program to store the result table.

The heavy iron comes in when dealing with large databases. If you have
millions of records to plow through then you need more beef. That's where
you start to compare speed, optimizations, reporting automation
capabilities, etc of the various products on the market. Add the ability to
add predictive calculations and pump out thousands of web pages on demand
and you're now putting your system to work. MS Access is definitely not a
product you would use in this environment.

But if the database is in MS Access then chances are excellent that nothing
more is needed than Mac Office to generate even the fanciest of reports
without having to go through a steep learning curve.

-Jim Gordon
Mac MVP




Quoting from "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]"
Hi Jim:

I would have to agree, if all he wants is a way to get at data.

I've had very little to do with FileMaker: In reporting, I think it's
stronger than Access. But I think both are a little "challenged" in SQL.

The later versions of Access offer fairly fully-featured SQL (some SQL
purists would say Access enables structures that SQL shouldn't really
allow...)

Debate rages as to whether Access "really" is a "relational" database. I
don't know enough about databases to know what the argument is here.
However as I understand it, Access can open and read/write an SQL database,
and perform relational queries/updates. I think FileMaker has limitations
there.

But I have seen some really impressive reporting and forms done in FileMaker
that I suspect would be difficult if not impossible in Access.

Cheers

Many users face the dilemma that Alex faces. In terms of a SQL GUI if you
already have Excel then a further expenditure on FileMaker seems wasteful to
me.

Excel makes a great reporting and analysis tool (better than FileMaker
IMHO). When combined with Word's data merge manager you can make reports
that far exceed what comes with MS Access.

I've not worked much with FileMaker's reporting tools so I don't know how
easy it is to create custom formats with FileMaker.

-Jim Gordon
Mac MVP


Quoting from "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]"
Hi Alex:

FileMaker Pro is a very good product. And it's built for Mac and PC.

See here:
http://www.filemaker.com/

Understand that it is not an "exact" equivalent. The only way to be sure it
will do what you want is to download the trial version and try it.

Cheers


On 2/11/06 2:18 AM, in article
(e-mail address removed), "alexalmendrades"

Does anyone know if there is a MAC equivalent for Microsoft ACCESS?

I hooked up my friend's MAC to our work network and it works fine and can
access everything fine, but all our inventory/pricing is done on ACCESS..
is
there any way a MAC can access and open this type of document?

Aa

--
Jim Gordon
Mac MVP

MVPs are not Microsoft Employees
MVP info
 

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