My first web design

[Pauline]

Creating my first web page... why is my website at the left hand side
instead of using all the space?

 

[DavidF]

refer to - http://www.publishermvps.com/Default.aspx?tabid=160

DavidF

 

[Don Schmidt]

Microsoft left out "centering" and "dynamic sizing" of Publisher. About the
best alternative is to use the "Wide" setting in the page sizing. Folks who
have their computers set the display at 800x600 and lower will have their
monitor displays filled with the web page. Now if you set your page size to
say 12 or 14 inches, you will see your monitor filled but many folks with
display settings lower than yours will be required to horizontally scroll to
see it all.

The reason the MVPs give for leaving out these features is, "Publisher isn't
primarily a website design program. It's primarily for designing and
publishing paper documents." But it seems adding the <center> and </center>
lines to the html files would take less effort than all the documentation in
the Help file regarding creating websites. It does create the suspicion
Microsoft wants you to buy another program.

 

[Pauline]

Thanks Don, very much

Microsoft left out "centering" and "dynamic sizing" of Publisher. About the
best alternative is to use the "Wide" setting in the page sizing. Folks who
have their computers set the display at 800x600 and lower will have their
monitor displays filled with the web page. Now if you set your page size to
say 12 or 14 inches, you will see your monitor filled but many folks with
display settings lower than yours will be required to horizontally scroll to
see it all.

The reason the MVPs give for leaving out these features is, "Publisher isn't
primarily a website design program. It's primarily for designing and
publishing paper documents." But it seems adding the <center> and </center>
lines to the html files would take less effort than all the documentation in
the Help file regarding creating websites. It does create the suspicion
Microsoft wants you to buy another program.

 

[David Bartosik]

Don it's a matter of the technology and to a lessor degree, resources.
Professional web designers stay current with the technology and web
standards. The resource for that is http://www.w3c.org . A quick point to
make, the center tag has long been deprecated. Type that tag in FrontPage or
other design tool and it'll display a notice to not use it. It was replaced
by other avenues within CSS2. Which is the technology designed to replace
traditional HTML. CSS2 became the default for Pub 2000, at a time when lots
of browsers didn't support it, or support it fully. But Pub 2000 still
retained it's old html code base as an option. Versions 2002 and 2003 use
CSS2 exclusively. If you read up on the CSS2 standards you can learn about
absolute positioning and relative positioning. And divs and spans. All of
which replace traditional HTML tables, rows, and cells. (although it is
common to intermix some html tables, etc. in with CSS2). CSS2 solidifies the
design standard of left to right for a predefined width. Centering and
dynamic sizing are not that easy. It's not just a matter of wrapping
everything in a center tag, as you well know already.

In my conversations with MS over the last few years, when the topic of
supporting centering and dynamic sizing has come up, it's been determined
that they cannot justify the resources it would take to do that. Based on the
number of items that are more important and the very small number of
customers that think Publisher is broken because it doesn't support them.

 

[Don Schmidt]

Thanks for the lesson David. Much to learn and so little time.


--
Don
Vancouver, USA

Don it's a matter of the technology and to a lessor degree, resources.
Professional web designers stay current with the technology and web
standards. The resource for that is http://www.w3c.org . A quick point to
make, the center tag has long been deprecated. Type that tag in FrontPage
or
other design tool and it'll display a notice to not use it. It was
replaced
by other avenues within CSS2. Which is the technology designed to replace
traditional HTML. CSS2 became the default for Pub 2000, at a time when
lots
of browsers didn't support it, or support it fully. But Pub 2000 still
retained it's old html code base as an option. Versions 2002 and 2003 use
CSS2 exclusively. If you read up on the CSS2 standards you can learn about
absolute positioning and relative positioning. And divs and spans. All of
which replace traditional HTML tables, rows, and cells. (although it is
common to intermix some html tables, etc. in with CSS2). CSS2 solidifies
the
design standard of left to right for a predefined width. Centering and
dynamic sizing are not that easy. It's not just a matter of wrapping
everything in a center tag, as you well know already.

In my conversations with MS over the last few years, when the topic of
supporting centering and dynamic sizing has come up, it's been determined
that they cannot justify the resources it would take to do that. Based on
the
number of items that are more important and the very small number of
customers that think Publisher is broken because it doesn't support them.

--
David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com

Microsoft left out "centering" and "dynamic sizing" of Publisher. About
the
best alternative is to use the "Wide" setting in the page sizing. Folks
who
have their computers set the display at 800x600 and lower will have their
monitor displays filled with the web page. Now if you set your page size
to
say 12 or 14 inches, you will see your monitor filled but many folks with
display settings lower than yours will be required to horizontally scroll
to
see it all.

The reason the MVPs give for leaving out these features is, "Publisher
isn't
primarily a website design program. It's primarily for designing and
publishing paper documents." But it seems adding the <center> and
</center>
lines to the html files would take less effort than all the documentation
in
the Help file regarding creating websites. It does create the suspicion
Microsoft wants you to buy another program.

 

[analog]

Ya think? At the same time, they continue to lie in their sales literature abut
the suitability of Publisher for web site design.

It does create the suspicion

 

[analog]

At the very least, the jerks could have the decency to provide a way to move
Publisher websites into Front Page. You may talk around all the pitiful defects
in Publisher, but there is no way you can justify this horrible oversight.