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[Rafael]

OS 10.4.9
Ibook G4
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Hi,

I know this isn't a Word issue but I don't know where to go and I
think it's a simple question.

I filled out "My Profile". There was no box for my email address. I
pressed 'Send' and the next page showed my profile along with my real
email address, not the scrambled one. "My Profile" is available to
the public and I don't want my real email address to show. Why did it
show up after I pressed 'send'. The fill out page didn't ask for it?

Thanks, Rafael

PS ah hah! I see that my real email address is also on this post page
at the top. Did this come from the finished profile page? Aren't
these Google group posts also available to the public

 

[John McGhie]

Hi Rafael:

The reason most of us do not use a web browser to access these newsgroups is
because it "doesn't; work very well".

If you would like to switch over to a news reader, we would love to help.
If you have questions about how Google operates, I am afraid you need to ask
Google.

Just don't say you're from Microsoft"

Cheers

OS 10.4.9
Ibook G4
1.5 GB Ram

Hi,

I know this isn't a Word issue but I don't know where to go and I
think it's a simple question.

I filled out "My Profile". There was no box for my email address. I
pressed 'Send' and the next page showed my profile along with my real
email address, not the scrambled one. "My Profile" is available to
the public and I don't want my real email address to show. Why did it
show up after I pressed 'send'. The fill out page didn't ask for it?

Thanks, Rafael

PS ah hah! I see that my real email address is also on this post page
at the top. Did this come from the finished profile page? Aren't
these Google group posts also available to the public

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[Michelle]

This reminds me of an issue I'm having. I used to read these MS Office
groups through the built in Microsoft News Server within Entourage. I just
recently added them to NetNewsWire since that's where I read all of my other
RSS feeds and news sites. However, I seem to be able to read the posts
within NNW, but not reply to them. When I hit the reply button below
someone's post, nothing happens.

I suspect that this could be because it's the RSS feed from Google groups
instead of another "original" source. Not sure why this should be a
problem--all of my other sites allow me to post from within NNW.

Does anyone have any idea what might be happening and how to fix this? It's
a pain to read the posts within NNW, but then have to switch back to
Entourage when I want to post or reply. Other "links" within the posts
work--just not the reply/reply to author/forward buttons.

 

[Michelle]

Just discovered something odd. If I right-click reply and choose open in
new tab, it will open and allow me to reply. Odd that it won't just move to
the reply page within the current tab.

 

[Michelle]

It's me again. One thing that is driving me crazy when reading the feed
through NNW is the layout of the page. A portion of the left-hand frame
(with the message) always gets hidden behind the right hand frame (with the
"about this group, edit my subscription, and sponsored links). I have to
expand my NNW article/news column so large that it almost completely takes
away my RSS feed list column. Even then, I can't always see all of the
Microsoft message column frame. When I replied from within NNW a moment
ago, I had to manually "return" my lines, because my typing was hidden
behind the right hand column.

Does this make sense? I know that this is a NNW issue, but the Microsoft
Google groups are the only ones that I've ever had this problem with.

 

[Phillip Jones]

Mozilla SeaMonkey is a Great all in one Email/Newsgroups/ and Web browser.

Or Mozilla Thunderbird is a "great" Email/Newsreader.

on either in email you have a super great filtering system you can turn
on and use for Spam control.

The way either can be set to thread topics is super! you have different
way to sort the topics and Threading.

And unlike MS offering you don't have to worry about Active-X unless you
install an extension. and Unlike MS Offerings an attached item is not
automatically executed "you have to tell it to. Which is a great boon
for keeping out typical adware/Malware/spyware, etc. That MS offering
let in by the second. the latest 2.x versions of Tbird even has a way to
detect possibly scam (phishing) notices. You can opt turn this off in
about:config.

Hi Rafael:

The reason most of us do not use a web browser to access these newsgroups is
because it "doesn't; work very well".

If you would like to switch over to a news reader, we would love to help.
If you have questions about how Google operates, I am afraid you need to ask
Google.

Just don't say you're from Microsoft"

Cheers

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[John McGhie]

Hi Michelle:

Yeah, well there is going to be a small disconnect there, isn't there

Microsoft and Google are the deadliest of enemies. Why? Because Google has
the potential to directly threaten one of Microsoft's main profit centres.
Sure, they are nowhere near realising that potential yet. But Microsoft has
a duty to its shareholders (all of those Moms and Dads and their pension
plans...) not to make it easy for Google.

Microsoft is actually developing its own mechanism, to compliment NNTP. The
beta version is here: http://www.microsoft.com/communities/default.mspx

It's not working real well (right at the moment, it's not working at ALL,
but that's just a beta issue...). And before the MacMacs and conspiracy
theorists get going, the stated policy of Microsoft Corporation is that it
WILL work on a Mac using standard Mac software. That's one of the design
goals. Right at the moment, bits of it don't, but that will change rapidly.

If you know someone running Windows Live Mail on Windows Vista Ultimate,
it's worth asking them if you could have a play for half an hour, just to
get a feel for where it's headed. You will see that it is very much
empowered by RSS and XML.

Obviously, one develops first for the platform you "own" and "control". I
am sure you can understand that persuading Apple to enable features in
Safari that make Microsoft look good is a long drawn out process, whereas
encouraging the Vista and Internet Explorer teams to add major new
functionality can be simply accomplished by a couple of quick whacks with a
clue-by-four!

What you are looking at there is very much "Web 3". Web 2 crossed a divide,
between software that controls users, and users empowered by software.
Whenever you read a manual that says "The software lets you do XYZ..." you
are looking at a Web 1 application. When the manual says "Users enable the
software to ..." you've crossed the divide and you're standing in Web 2.

Now, just a quick reflection on the outcome of any recent general election
will show you that large numbers of users do not necessarily achieve
anything "useful" with all that power they have.

Web 3 is about making the result useful

Web 3 is about trying to convert the web from a black hole into which you
sink time, into something as much a part of society as the roads we drive
on, and just as useful.

The "useful" bit is going to take a while yet

Google is the absolute world leader at enabling people to find what they ask
for. Microsoft missed that particular bus. Badly! If you have ever looked
at the results of an MSN Search you will know what I mean. However, an
equally interesting comparison is between Spotlight and the Vista desktop
search.

I happen to be running both OS X and Vista on this laptop, so I am in a
particularly good position to be able to compare them, looking at the
content of the same hard drive. Given my experience with MSN, I was utterly
astonished to discover that Vista is well ahead. Not so much in "finding"
things, but in finding "useful" things.

And once you get over the glitz and "wow" effluvia, "The one I need" beats
"Everything" hands down Useful, as opposed to powerful.

Cheers

It's me again. One thing that is driving me crazy when reading the feed
through NNW is the layout of the page. A portion of the left-hand frame
(with the message) always gets hidden behind the right hand frame (with the
"about this group, edit my subscription, and sponsored links). I have to
expand my NNW article/news column so large that it almost completely takes
away my RSS feed list column. Even then, I can't always see all of the
Microsoft message column frame. When I replied from within NNW a moment
ago, I had to manually "return" my lines, because my typing was hidden
behind the right hand column.

Does this make sense? I know that this is a NNW issue, but the Microsoft
Google groups are the only ones that I've ever had this problem with.

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[Phillip Jones]

Hi Michelle:

Yeah, well there is going to be a small disconnect there, isn't there

Microsoft and Google are the deadliest of enemies. Why? Because Google has
the potential to directly threaten one of Microsoft's main profit centres.
Sure, they are nowhere near realising that potential yet. But Microsoft has
a duty to its shareholders (all of those Moms and Dads and their pension
plans...) not to make it easy for Google.

Yeah Right! ;-) Maybe line Bill Gates Pockets. ;-)

Since when has MS became so altruistic?

MS goal in life is killing off any and all competition so That in order
to do anything on Computer you must come to them. So far they haven't
been able to do. But they sure as heck have crippled the market
considerably.

I liken MS to the Old AT&T if you used a a phone you paid to AT&T. And
they could dictate any price they desired.

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[John McGhie]

Hi Phillip:

You don't have a "lot" of experience with multinational computer companies
such as Apple or Adobe or Oracle or IBM?

NO multinational corporation is in the business of altruism. Their board of
directors is required to do everything in their power to make as big a
profit as possible.

That's it. They will be sent to jail by the USA SEC if they don't.

So do stop complaining that Microsoft is not a charity. It's actually a
little more forgiving than some (most) of the others. If you don't believe
me, take the proprietor of your local Mac Shop for a couple of beers and ask
them what Apple is like to deal with

Cheers

Yeah Right! ;-) Maybe line Bill Gates Pockets. ;-)

Since when has MS became so altruistic?

MS goal in life is killing off any and all competition so That in order
to do anything on Computer you must come to them. So far they haven't
been able to do. But they sure as heck have crippled the market
considerably.

I liken MS to the Old AT&T if you used a a phone you paid to AT&T. And
they could dictate any price they desired.

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[JE McGimpsey]

Yeah Right! ;-) Maybe line Bill Gates Pockets. ;-)

Bill Gates's pockets are already lined with platinum, and he's given
away billions to charity.

It's not BG that the Microsoft Board of Directors is most responsible
to, but all the millions of individuals who've bought Microsoft stock in
the hopes that their retirement might be a little more secure. Just like
ANY company, the Directors are personally responsible (i.e., liable) for
ensuring that those shareholders' investments generate the maximum
return. They can be individually and collectively sued (and IMO, they
should be jailed) if they don't.

One doesn't have to imagine conspiracies, here. MS doesn't try to
cripple the market. I'd argue that the only reason there still IS an
Apple, Inc, is that MS's MacBU was able to port MacOffice to OSX
*quickly*. They may have had complex interests (including avoiding
anti-trust regulation), but their bottom line counts most.

I liken MS to the Old AT&T if you used a a phone you paid to AT&T. And
they could dictate any price they desired.

Uh, no. AT&T could only "dictate" the price the market would bear.

In almost all cases the old AT&T local service was regulated by state
PUCs, and AT&T provided local service at less than cost, making it up on
long-distance fees. Again, the company had a mandate to maximize
profits, and they balanced pricing to do so.

Yes, there were inefficiencies that suppressed growth and development,
but AT&T certainly couldn't "dictate any price they desired."

Nor can MS dictate price for any of its products. It's subject to market
forces just as any other manufacturer - if they price their products too
high, people will find alternatives (including doing nothing), and MS
profits will drop. Conversely, if a product line is underpriced, in the
long run it will fail to generate the return deserved by shareholders,
and the division will raise the price, or if it can't, the product line
will be discontinued.

 

[Phillip Jones]

Didn't say they were a charity. I was making the comment on the section
about:

....But Microsoft has a duty to its shareholders (all of those Moms and
Dads and their pension plans...) not to make it easy for Google.

with emphasis on the part about .... (all of those Moms and Dads and
their pension plans...)

I doubt seriously That the average mom and pop has never saw a piece of
MS stock much less bought it. And the companies That use it in there
pension plans probably have some type of relation with MS anyway.

The majority of the people That own MS stock probably don't need the income.

Of course companies are in business to make a profit unless you are a
non-profit.

But we are getting to the point in the US That we are like the saying
attributed to Marie Antoinette about .... let them eat cake! when asked
the question about Lady what about the masses, they have no food.

There is a difference between making a profit and making an obscene
profit. Where you buy a new Bentley everyday of the year if you want, of
build a new house in every state if you want.

A recent report stated That 10% of the people have 90% of the wealth.

Hi Phillip:

You don't have a "lot" of experience with multinational computer companies
such as Apple or Adobe or Oracle or IBM?

NO multinational corporation is in the business of altruism. Their board of
directors is required to do everything in their power to make as big a
profit as possible.

That's it. They will be sent to jail by the USA SEC if they don't.

So do stop complaining that Microsoft is not a charity. It's actually a
little more forgiving than some (most) of the others. If you don't believe
me, take the proprietor of your local Mac Shop for a couple of beers and ask
them what Apple is like to deal with

Cheers

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[Phillip Jones]

Nor can MS dictate price for any of its products. It's subject to market
forces just as any other manufacturer - if they price their products too
high, people will find alternatives (including doing nothing), and MS
profits will drop. Conversely, if a product line is underpriced, in the
long run it will fail to generate the return deserved by shareholders,
and the division will raise the price, or if it can't, the product line
will be discontinued.

Problem is Microsoft makes every effort to put companies out of
business. Then they have a captive audience. When there is no fair
competition then any price can be dictated.
For Example if WordPerfect for Mac was still around, or Lotus 123 for PC
and Mac were still around do you think Office still could be sold for
the $300-400 dollar price it is new. Do you think upgrades would cost
over $200?

MS is Not the only one doing it. Adobe is just as evil in the media
content. They bought out Aldus, and Macromedia.

And Our government just stands around and let's it all go on.
Competition is good for the economy the lack of it is not.
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[JE McGimpsey]

Problem is Microsoft makes every effort to put companies out of
business. Then they have a captive audience. When there is no fair
competition then any price can be dictated.
For Example if WordPerfect for Mac was still around, or Lotus 123 for PC
and Mac were still around do you think Office still could be sold for
the $300-400 dollar price it is new. Do you think upgrades would cost
over $200?

Given the size of the market, if enough people bought WordPerfect for
Mac to keep it profitable, then Microsoft would probably have shut down
MacBU. Then WordPerfect for Mac would probably sell for about $200
standalone.

But that's a huge and complicated hypothetical.

 

[Phillip Jones]

Given the size of the market, if enough people bought WordPerfect for
Mac to keep it profitable, then Microsoft would probably have shut down
MacBU. Then WordPerfect for Mac would probably sell for about $200
standalone.

But that's a huge and complicated hypothetical.

Guess you didn't read about all arm twisting MS did to Corel to drop Mac
Support.

And actually no if MS had left Corel WP alone odds are there would have
been more Mac users. And more mac users would have been more prospective
customers for Office.

I bought WordPerfect when WordPerfect Corp owned, then went through the
Novel Change and finally Corel. But at the same time I owned MS works,
then Word and Excel. There were things that one could do That the other
could or did better.

Funny thing is, WordPerfect, and Office do compete on PC, as well as
others such as AmiPro and others.

Anyway this is the last comment on this from me. I know I am in a losing
battle. I guess I am a hopeless romantic in that I believe everyone
compete fairly. And just try to make a "decent" profit not a an obscene
profit. But the world is not That way.

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