My website is slow to download

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Becky

I just did my first website in publisher(www.henriksenimports.com). It's 460
pages and has a lot of pictures. I have reduced the images to 160 x 160 72
dpi. I have even tried compressing the images but not much seems to help
speed things up. Help! What else can I try?
 
G

gregm

Becky,

Looking at the images on your site, the images are being downloaded larger
than they are displayed.

For example, the pelzman ceramic on the home page is actually downloaded at
this size:
http://www.henriksenimports.com/index_files/image10091.jpg
and then resized to fit in your webpage. i.e. its about twice the size.

In addition the Jpg file doesn't appear to have any compression, its about
45Kb.

I downloaded the image and saved it with compression, so that it was just
15Kb, and it had no perceptible degradation in quality.

I would suggest:
1. Rescaling your images to the size you display them at
2. Saving them with jpg compression (30% seemed to give good results when I
tried)

That could speed up the download of images by ~10 times.

Let me know if you want help,

G.
 
D

DavidF

Becky,

Whew! You have produced an ambitious site. Unfortunately you are running up
against the fact that the more images, the slower the pages will load.
Furthermore, Publisher has a rather unique and sometimes frustrating way of
handling images. Please read my response to G. (gregm) for some of the
details. He was pretty much spot on in describing the theory...

For the fastest "fix" to improve your loading speed:

Make sure you are using Publish to the Web, and not Save as a Web page to
produce your web pages.

Go to Tools > Options > Web tab and untick "Rely on VML..." and "Allow
PNG..."

Be sure you are actually compressing the images as much as possible within
Publisher. Reference: "Compress graphics file sizes to create smaller
Publisher Web pages":
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HA011266301033.aspx

Then be sure to delete all your old files on your web server
before you upload the new files.

With that said, if you want your pages to load even more
quickly, with better images, then you will need to import them into your
page rather than embed them. Given the large number of images you have, this
will be a rather long, tedious process, but the approach is pretty
straightforward. I would try the "fix" above and see if you can live with
that first. If not post back, and we'll walk you through the procedure to
import your images.

DavidF
 
D

DavidF

G.

Much of what you say is spot on...in theory. In general images should be
resized to fit the size you want to display. However, Publisher 2003
produces copies of the embedded images in various formats with the goal of
providing the "best" image depending on which browser is used, with mixed
results. Furthermore, Publisher "resamples" each image to 96 dpi, in most
cases...as I understand it. With the way Publisher handles embedded images,
your approach would give the best quality, and fastest loading images IF
they were imported rather than embedded.

Also in this particular case, Becky has also overlapped some of her images
with text boxes using non-web safe fonts, which results in a new combined
GIF image, regardless of what format the original image was. As an example
check out the following link:
http://www.henriksenimports.com/index_files/image4731.gif
This is the same image you referenced, but it has been converted to a GIF
and combined with the text. You found one of the duplicate images that
Publisher produced, or perhaps the original image Becky embedded.

If you use non-websafe fonts, the text itself can sometimes be converted to
an image, which slows download speed, or sometimes the browser will
substitute in a websafe font. Reference: Web safe fonts in Publisher 2003
web publications:
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/06/81275.aspx

DavidF
 
G

gregm

David,

Thanks - I'm climbing a pretty steep learning curve on the intricacies of
Publisher - thank you for taking the time with us newbies!

G.
 
D

DavidF

You are welcome, and your comments and help are welcome and appreciated. I
think your learning curve has flattened out, and you know and understand a
lot more than you think. ;-)

DavidF

gregm said:
David,

Thanks - I'm climbing a pretty steep learning curve on the intricacies of
Publisher - thank you for taking the time with us newbies!

G.
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

and...way too big to maintain with Publisher (IMO)...should be redone with
FrontPage or DW.


| Becky,
|
| Whew! You have produced an ambitious site. Unfortunately you are running
up
| against the fact that the more images, the slower the pages will load.
| Furthermore, Publisher has a rather unique and sometimes frustrating way
of
| handling images. Please read my response to G. (gregm) for some of the
| details. He was pretty much spot on in describing the theory...
|
| For the fastest "fix" to improve your loading speed:
|
| Make sure you are using Publish to the Web, and not Save as a Web page to
| produce your web pages.
|
| Go to Tools > Options > Web tab and untick "Rely on VML..." and "Allow
| PNG..."
|
| Be sure you are actually compressing the images as much as possible within
| Publisher. Reference: "Compress graphics file sizes to create smaller
| Publisher Web pages":
|
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HA011266301033.aspx
|
| Then be sure to delete all your old files on your web server
| before you upload the new files.
|
| With that said, if you want your pages to load even more
| quickly, with better images, then you will need to import them into your
| page rather than embed them. Given the large number of images you have,
this
| will be a rather long, tedious process, but the approach is pretty
| straightforward. I would try the "fix" above and see if you can live with
| that first. If not post back, and we'll walk you through the procedure to
| import your images.
|
| DavidF
|
|
| | >I just did my first website in publisher(www.henriksenimports.com). It's
| >460
| > pages and has a lot of pictures. I have reduced the images to 160 x 160
| > 72
| > dpi. I have even tried compressing the images but not much seems to
help
| > speed things up. Help! What else can I try?
| > --
| > Thank you,
| >
| > Becky
|
|
 
B

Becky

Would you mind walking me thru the process of importing vs. embedding?
Thanks again!
--
Thank you,

Becky


DavidF said:
Becky,

Whew! You have produced an ambitious site. Unfortunately you are running up
against the fact that the more images, the slower the pages will load.
Furthermore, Publisher has a rather unique and sometimes frustrating way of
handling images. Please read my response to G. (gregm) for some of the
details. He was pretty much spot on in describing the theory...

For the fastest "fix" to improve your loading speed:

Make sure you are using Publish to the Web, and not Save as a Web page to
produce your web pages.

Go to Tools > Options > Web tab and untick "Rely on VML..." and "Allow
PNG..."

Be sure you are actually compressing the images as much as possible within
Publisher. Reference: "Compress graphics file sizes to create smaller
Publisher Web pages":
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HA011266301033.aspx

Then be sure to delete all your old files on your web server
before you upload the new files.

With that said, if you want your pages to load even more
quickly, with better images, then you will need to import them into your
page rather than embed them. Given the large number of images you have, this
will be a rather long, tedious process, but the approach is pretty
straightforward. I would try the "fix" above and see if you can live with
that first. If not post back, and we'll walk you through the procedure to
import your images.

DavidF
 
D

DavidF

Becky,

First, did you actually read the link and compress the images? It doesn't
look like it, and that might be your fastest fix. Reference: "Compress
graphics file sizes to create smaller Publisher Web pages":
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HA011266301033.aspx

The process of importing images is fairly simple in concept, but a bit
tedious to execute, so you might want to do this only with the images that
are most important. In brief you will need to create a subfolder called
"images" or something similar on your website where you will upload your
images, and then you will use the "insert html code fragment" tool in
Publisher to insert the following code:

<IMG SRC="http://www.yourwebsite.com/images/yourimage.jpg" ALT="Whatever you
want the alt tag to say">

As you have already optimized and sized your images to the size you will use
in Publisher, you have accomplished one of the most time intensive parts of
this whole process. Use the insert html code fragment tool to insert a code
fragment box for each image in your Publisher document. Size the box the
same size as the image it is replacing before you delete the image. Change
the code snippet I gave you above for each image, add any Alt text you want
to include (optional), and that's it. Delete all the old files off your
website, and publish/upload your new files, and your new images to the
"images" folder.

I would suggest that you do some testing before you change over your whole
site, to make sure it is going to work. Save a copy of your original
Publisher file, and then on the copy try this process with just one image or
one page.
If it works, then you can rework the whole thing. Perhaps redo a page such
as:
http://www.henriksenimports.com/index_files/Page897.htm where all the images
are the same size. Time the loading speed, then test the load speed again
after you change the page to import the images. You might find that they do
not load any more quickly that if you just compressed the images from within
Publisher.

As Rob said, the size of your website has pushed the limits of what you
should be using Publisher to produce. It is intended for small, simple
websites...not ones as extensive as yours. At the same time you illustrate
what CAN be done. One thing you might want to consider if you continue to
use Publisher is using multiple Publisher files to produce your site to make
it more manageable. Read this reference, and perhaps if you decide to change
your whole site to import images, then rebuild it using multiple Publisher
docs at the same time: "Building a web site with multiple Publisher web
publication files":
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/16/81264.aspx

Good luck.

DavidF

Becky said:
Would you mind walking me thru the process of importing vs. embedding?
Thanks again!
 

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