Navigation Bar Gone

[Lisa Red]

Hello

I've used the wizard to design a website and throughout the LONG design
process, I've regularly done Web Previews to see how things look, spacing,
etc. The navigation bar has always shown up and the links have always worked
in Preview mode.

I've FINALLY finished the text and got things just right and when I clicked
on Web Preview for what I hoped was the last time, the navigation bar was
missing and only the page that was open was shown.

I can't figure out where it's gone or how to get it back - I only know that
without it, I can't navigate around my seven little pages.

Can anyone help?

 

[Spike]

Lisa

What version of publisher are you using?
What browser are you using?

Spike

 

[Skip]

Same issue as Lisa. I am running Publisher 2003 and IE8 on a Vista 64 bit
machine. I did surf to my published site using my iphone and noted that my
website functions properly on Safari (which seems rather ironic...)

 

[DavidF]

The only compatibility issues with Publisher 2003 and 2007 webs and IE8 RTW
reported thus far are problems associated with 'grouping'. Any design
elements that are 'grouped' together, which includes the Publisher wizard
built navbars, do not render when you view the web page in IE8 . The fix in
general is to ungroup the elements. There is both a manual fix to these
issues and a Service Patch that has been issued to fix it for Pub 2007.
There have been no problems reported with Publisher 2000 webs that are
produced at the IE3+ settings.

Reference: Navigation bars and other content is missing from Publisher HTML
output in Internet Explorer 8: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/969705

A manual method of fixing this grouping issue:

Prior to uploading your pages find all text boxes and other design elements
that are grouped together and ungroup. You can save those changes to your
publication. Then make a copy of your publication by doing a 'File > Save
As' and in this copy go to each page > Edit > Select All > Arrange >
Ungroup. This will ungroup the Publisher built navbar and disconnect it from
the wizard, and the navbars will render correctly in IE8. 'Publish to the
Web' from this copy of your publication. When you want to make further
changes in your web, go back to the original Publisher file, make the
corrections there, save your changes, and again make a copy, ungroup the
navbars and produce new web files for uploading. The advantage of this
workflow is that you will not have to rebuild the navbar if you choose to
add a page to the navbar. If you do not need to add a page, you can leave
the navbar ungrouped and skip the step of saving a copy.

This is also fixed with the Office 2007 SP2: Reference: Description of 2007
Microsoft Office Suite Service Pack 2 (SP2) and of Microsoft Office Language
Pack 2007 SP2: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=953195

The usual caveat also applies. While I would never recommend to anyone that
they not install any security or service patch, when you install service
patches there can be unintended consequences. You might fix one thing only
to break something else. There have been some people who have posted about
problems opening existing Pub files after installing the Office 2007 SP2. A
hotfix was issued for that June 30.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=953195 lists some of the other known
issues along with some of the things this patch fixes in Office 2007
applications.

Description of the Publisher 2007 hotfix package (Publisher.msp): June 30,
2009
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/972566/
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/972632

And finally if you do have problems after installing SP2: Microsoft Service
Pack and applying the hotfix:
Uninstall Tool for the 2007 Microsoft Office suite:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/954914/en-us

DavidF

 

[Lisa Red]

Hello David

Thanks for all the info. I chose to take the plunge and try the patch; it's
fixed the Publisher problem and I so far haven't encountered any new
troubles. Hopefully I won't - but I least I know what to do if I do.

 

[DavidF]

Lisa,

Thanks for the feedback. It is appreciated.

DavidF

 

[ALA1]

David, I think I love you. Ungrouping works for me!! MANY thanks.

 

[DavidF]

Gosh...golly...thanks for posting...the feedback is appreciated.

DavidF

 

[Mr. Z]

I updated a website I have had up for months. Changed just one letter and
saved the file and uploaded it to the server. Now when viewing the site
Netscape Explorer users can't see the navigation bar or any text.
When I open the file in Publisher it looks normal but when I preview through
Publisher I may or may not be able to see the webpage as designed. One time
it will appear normal, and when I view it again it will not show the
navigation bars.
Very similar to what Lisa is experiencing. Any clues?

 

[DavidF]

You are mixing up your words...there is Internet Explorer and Netscape
Navigator, but not Netscape Explorer.

If you are using IE8 and you are using a wizard built navbar in Publisher
2003 or 2007, then those navbars will not render when the website is viewed,
nor will any other design elements that grouped together. If this is your
issue then, you haven't said what version of Publisher you are using so here
is the boilerplate answer and solution. If it doesn't work then post a new
question along with your version of Publisher, the version of IE, a link to
your website and specifically what is not working correctly.

----------------

There is a compatibility issue with IE8 and Publisher 2003 and 2007. Any
design elements that are 'grouped' together, which includes the Publisher
wizard built navbars, do not render when you view the web page in IE8 . The
fix in general is to ungroup the elements. There is both a manual fix to
these issues and a Service Patch that has been issued to fix it for Pub
2007.

Reference: Navigation bars and other content is missing from Publisher HTML
output in Internet Explorer 8: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/969705

A manual method of fixing this grouping issue:

Prior to uploading your pages find all text boxes and other design elements
that are grouped together and ungroup. You can save those changes to your
publication. Then make a copy of your publication by doing a 'File > Save
As' and in this copy go to each page > Edit > Select All > Arrange >
Ungroup. This will ungroup the Publisher built navbar and disconnect it from
the wizard, and the navbars will render correctly in IE8. 'Publish to the
Web' from this copy of your publication. When you want to make further
changes in your web, go back to the original Publisher file, make the
corrections there, save your changes, and again make a copy, ungroup the
navbars and produce new web files for uploading. The advantage of this
workflow is that you will not have to rebuild the navbar if you choose to
add a page to the navbar. If you do not need to add a page or section to
your site, you can leave the navbar ungrouped and skip the step of saving a
copy.

Publisher 2007 can be fixed manually or with the Office 2007 SP2:

Reference: Description of 2007 Microsoft Office Suite Service Pack 2 (SP2)
and of Microsoft Office Language Pack 2007 SP2:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=953195

Some users have found SP2 breaks Publisher, and makes it impossible to open
existing Pub files...you know, break one thing to fix another, so there is a
hotfix for that:

Description of the Publisher 2007 hotfix package (Publisher.msp): June 30,
2009
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/972566/

DavidF

 

[Art SCC]

I am using Publisher 2007 (up to date with all the fixes). Navigation bars
created by the Publisher Web Design work fine in IE but not in Firefox. Is
there a fix for this?

 

[DavidF]

Please provide a link to a page on your site where the navbars are not
working.

DavidF