Navigation bar insert - Ronx help me!!

[JacquieCC]

Hi Ronx,
please help me I'ìm going banans. I have a header with company name on wich
I have now incorporated into the Naviagtion bar as anothere row on top of the
navigation bar in inserted the company logo as a jpeg (comapny logo in
Lucida Calligraphy) So I have the Header and navigation bar that I
contructed using Interlacken i t looks lovely - just as I wanted - mega - but
I can't get the flipping thing to insert itself properly on one page let
alone all the pages!

I have saved it a s a normal page and tried insert page - goes perfectly
right to the top of the page but there is a great big open space below it and
the rest of the page won't move itself up wards to meet up with the
naviagtion bar.
I then tried saving it as a DWT - that is when I put the header as part of
the actual naviagtion bar table as I couldn't get the orinal table cell and
separate navigation structure which was underneath it to be combine as one
editable region. I have tried but with no success to import the Dynamic web
plate by going into tools - dynamic web plate - manage editable regions -
identifying the onlòy one I have which is the Navigation structure - and it
won't go in - can't even see it - I can see the tag somewhere off to the
right but no DWT - and the naviagtion structure should in theroy be
absolutley positioned.

Any ideas?

Please save me!

JacquieCC

 

[Tom [Pepper] Willett]

Too bad you only want Ronx. Others may have been able to help.

| Hi Ronx,
| please help me I'ìm going banans. I have a header with company name on
wich
| I have now incorporated into the Naviagtion bar as anothere row on top of
the
| navigation bar in inserted the company logo as a jpeg (comapny logo in
| Lucida Calligraphy) So I have the Header and navigation bar that I
| contructed using Interlacken i t looks lovely - just as I wanted - mega -
but
| I can't get the flipping thing to insert itself properly on one page let
| alone all the pages!
|
| I have saved it a s a normal page and tried insert page - goes perfectly
| right to the top of the page but there is a great big open space below it
and
| the rest of the page won't move itself up wards to meet up with the
| naviagtion bar.
| I then tried saving it as a DWT - that is when I put the header as part of
| the actual naviagtion bar table as I couldn't get the orinal table cell
and
| separate navigation structure which was underneath it to be combine as one
| editable region. I have tried but with no success to import the Dynamic
web
| plate by going into tools - dynamic web plate - manage editable regions -
| identifying the onlòy one I have which is the Navigation structure - and
it
| won't go in - can't even see it - I can see the tag somewhere off to the
| right but no DWT - and the naviagtion structure should in theroy be
| absolutley positioned.
|
| Any ideas?
|
| Please save me!
|
| JacquieCC

 

[JacquieCC]

I really am very greatful to anyone who helps me - you have all been
brilliant over the last few months helping me with my woes. I asked Ronx
becasue he had followed me through with the initial navigation bar problems.
However I really don't mind who answers as I said you have all helped me and
if I have got this far it is only because I keep bugging you lot!

Anyway - I have go the header as I said below with included in the original
HTML tabel that makes up the interlacken naviagtion bar with drop down menus.
I need to insert this onto the top pf every page. I can get iot to the top
of the page using web component - Included content - click page - finish
browse for file -however I am left with a rather large area below that about
150px in depth and there seems no way I can bring the main page content up to
meet the navigation bar. The Navigation bar works perfectly but I can't get
rid of this spacing. I also have problems it I try to insert it as a DWT the
rest of the page either dissappears or the e only thing I can see of the DWT
is the tags,

please pass on some of very well appreciated wisdom !

regards,
JacquieCC

Too bad you only want Ronx. Others may have been able to help.

| Hi Ronx,
| please help me I'ìm going banans. I have a header with company name on
wich
| I have now incorporated into the Naviagtion bar as anothere row on top of
the
| navigation bar in inserted the company logo as a jpeg (comapny logo in
| Lucida Calligraphy) So I have the Header and navigation bar that I
| contructed using Interlacken i t looks lovely - just as I wanted - mega -
but
| I can't get the flipping thing to insert itself properly on one page let
| alone all the pages!
|
| I have saved it a s a normal page and tried insert page - goes perfectly
| right to the top of the page but there is a great big open space below it
and
| the rest of the page won't move itself up wards to meet up with the
| naviagtion bar.
| I then tried saving it as a DWT - that is when I put the header as part of
| the actual naviagtion bar table as I couldn't get the orinal table cell
and
| separate navigation structure which was underneath it to be combine as one
| editable region. I have tried but with no success to import the Dynamic
web
| plate by going into tools - dynamic web plate - manage editable regions -
| identifying the onlòy one I have which is the Navigation structure - and
it
| won't go in - can't even see it - I can see the tag somewhere off to the
| right but no DWT - and the naviagtion structure should in theroy be
| absolutley positioned.
|
| Any ideas?
|
| Please save me!
|
| JacquieCC

 

[JacquieCC]

Hello there,
I hope you are not all ignoring me now!

I have found the offending code but am not sure what to do with it:
<!-- MSTableType="layout" -->
<tr>
<td valign="top" colspan="2">
<!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="headerMT2.htm" TAG="BODY" --></td>
<td height="222"></td>
</tr>


Here it says height 222 - well the height should be more like 75 - can I
just change that or wil it mess up the tranparent gif that is under/over the
layers of the naviagtion bar with drop down which is directly above the bit I
need to 'bring up'?

hoping for an answer,

regards,
Jacquie

I really am very greatful to anyone who helps me - you have all been
brilliant over the last few months helping me with my woes. I asked Ronx
becasue he had followed me through with the initial navigation bar problems.
However I really don't mind who answers as I said you have all helped me and
if I have got this far it is only because I keep bugging you lot!

Anyway - I have go the header as I said below with included in the original
HTML tabel that makes up the interlacken naviagtion bar with drop down menus.
I need to insert this onto the top pf every page. I can get iot to the top
of the page using web component - Included content - click page - finish
browse for file -however I am left with a rather large area below that about
150px in depth and there seems no way I can bring the main page content up to
meet the navigation bar. The Navigation bar works perfectly but I can't get
rid of this spacing. I also have problems it I try to insert it as a DWT the
rest of the page either dissappears or the e only thing I can see of the DWT
is the tags,

please pass on some of very well appreciated wisdom !

regards,
JacquieCC

Too bad you only want Ronx. Others may have been able to help.

| Hi Ronx,
| please help me I'ìm going banans. I have a header with company name on
wich
| I have now incorporated into the Naviagtion bar as anothere row on top of
the
| navigation bar in inserted the company logo as a jpeg (comapny logo in
| Lucida Calligraphy) So I have the Header and navigation bar that I
| contructed using Interlacken i t looks lovely - just as I wanted - mega -
but
| I can't get the flipping thing to insert itself properly on one page let
| alone all the pages!
|
| I have saved it a s a normal page and tried insert page - goes perfectly
| right to the top of the page but there is a great big open space below it
and
| the rest of the page won't move itself up wards to meet up with the
| naviagtion bar.
| I then tried saving it as a DWT - that is when I put the header as part of
| the actual naviagtion bar table as I couldn't get the orinal table cell
and
| separate navigation structure which was underneath it to be combine as one
| editable region. I have tried but with no success to import the Dynamic
web
| plate by going into tools - dynamic web plate - manage editable regions -
| identifying the onlòy one I have which is the Navigation structure - and
it
| won't go in - can't even see it - I can see the tag somewhere off to the
| right but no DWT - and the naviagtion structure should in theroy be
| absolutley positioned.
|
| Any ideas?
|
| Please save me!
|
| JacquieCC

 

[JacquieCC]

Sorry I forgot to ask one other thing - the rollover efects seem to have
dissappeared from the navigation menu bar - it still works but no rollover -
can I mend this?
regards,
Jacquie

Hello there,
I hope you are not all ignoring me now!

I have found the offending code but am not sure what to do with it:
<!-- MSTableType="layout" -->
<tr>
<td valign="top" colspan="2">
<!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="headerMT2.htm" TAG="BODY" --></td>
<td height="222"></td>
</tr>


Here it says height 222 - well the height should be more like 75 - can I
just change that or wil it mess up the tranparent gif that is under/over the
layers of the naviagtion bar with drop down which is directly above the bit I
need to 'bring up'?

hoping for an answer,

regards,
Jacquie

I really am very greatful to anyone who helps me - you have all been
brilliant over the last few months helping me with my woes. I asked Ronx
becasue he had followed me through with the initial navigation bar problems.
However I really don't mind who answers as I said you have all helped me and
if I have got this far it is only because I keep bugging you lot!

Anyway - I have go the header as I said below with included in the original
HTML tabel that makes up the interlacken naviagtion bar with drop down menus.
I need to insert this onto the top pf every page. I can get iot to the top
of the page using web component - Included content - click page - finish
browse for file -however I am left with a rather large area below that about
150px in depth and there seems no way I can bring the main page content up to
meet the navigation bar. The Navigation bar works perfectly but I can't get
rid of this spacing. I also have problems it I try to insert it as a DWT the
rest of the page either dissappears or the e only thing I can see of the DWT
is the tags,

please pass on some of very well appreciated wisdom !

regards,
JacquieCC

Too bad you only want Ronx. Others may have been able to help.

| Hi Ronx,
| please help me I'ìm going banans. I have a header with company name on
wich
| I have now incorporated into the Naviagtion bar as anothere row on top of
the
| navigation bar in inserted the company logo as a jpeg (comapny logo in
| Lucida Calligraphy) So I have the Header and navigation bar that I
| contructed using Interlacken i t looks lovely - just as I wanted - mega -
but
| I can't get the flipping thing to insert itself properly on one page let
| alone all the pages!
|
| I have saved it a s a normal page and tried insert page - goes perfectly
| right to the top of the page but there is a great big open space below it
and
| the rest of the page won't move itself up wards to meet up with the
| naviagtion bar.
| I then tried saving it as a DWT - that is when I put the header as part of
| the actual naviagtion bar table as I couldn't get the orinal table cell
and
| separate navigation structure which was underneath it to be combine as one
| editable region. I have tried but with no success to import the Dynamic
web
| plate by going into tools - dynamic web plate - manage editable regions -
| identifying the onlòy one I have which is the Navigation structure - and
it
| won't go in - can't even see it - I can see the tag somewhere off to the
| right but no DWT - and the naviagtion structure should in theroy be
| absolutley positioned.
|
| Any ideas?
|
| Please save me!
|
| JacquieCC

 

[Ronx]

Jaquie

Can you publish what you have done?

I have used a variation of this menu at www.rxs-enterprises.org, with
a mixture of DWT and include pages, a copy of the DWT is at
www.rxs-enterprises.org/dwt/site.htm , and the menu itself at
www.rxs-enterprises.org/borders/globalnav.htm

The variations I have used may confuse you slightly, but the general
principles are retained and you should be able to see how I fitted the
menu into the pages.

The gap below the menu does appear in some browsers - Netscape6,
Mozilla 1.3 are examples, but should not be there in IE6 or the latest
versions of Netscape and Firefox.
As far as rollovers are concerned - depends on how these were done.
If JavaScript, the script may have to be copied to every page - should
not be necessary when using a DWT.

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

1) Include pages only include the code inside of the body tags in the pages using it
- so any script or commands in the Head section or Body tag must be copied into all pages using it
Since you are using a DWT don't use include pages (apply the nav to your DWT page)
2) There is nothing in td tag w/ the webbot causing the extra space
<td valign="top" colspan="2">
<!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="headerMT2.htm" TAG="BODY" --></td>
But this tag is causing it (remove height="222">)
<td height="222"></td>


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| Sorry I forgot to ask one other thing - the rollover efects seem to have
| dissappeared from the navigation menu bar - it still works but no rollover -
| can I mend this?
| regards,
| Jacquie
|
| "JacquieCC" wrote:
|
| > Hello there,
| > I hope you are not all ignoring me now!
| >
| > I have found the offending code but am not sure what to do with it:
| > <!-- MSTableType="layout" -->
| > <tr>
| > <td valign="top" colspan="2">
| > <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="headerMT2.htm" TAG="BODY" --></td>
| > <td height="222"></td>
| > </tr>
| >
| >
| > Here it says height 222 - well the height should be more like 75 - can I
| > just change that or wil it mess up the tranparent gif that is under/over the
| > layers of the naviagtion bar with drop down which is directly above the bit I
| > need to 'bring up'?
| >
| > hoping for an answer,
| >
| > regards,
| > Jacquie
| >
| >
| > "JacquieCC" wrote:
| >
| > > I really am very greatful to anyone who helps me - you have all been
| > > brilliant over the last few months helping me with my woes. I asked Ronx
| > > becasue he had followed me through with the initial navigation bar problems.
| > > However I really don't mind who answers as I said you have all helped me and
| > > if I have got this far it is only because I keep bugging you lot!
| > >
| > > Anyway - I have go the header as I said below with included in the original
| > > HTML tabel that makes up the interlacken naviagtion bar with drop down menus.
| > > I need to insert this onto the top pf every page. I can get iot to the top
| > > of the page using web component - Included content - click page - finish
| > > browse for file -however I am left with a rather large area below that about
| > > 150px in depth and there seems no way I can bring the main page content up to
| > > meet the navigation bar. The Navigation bar works perfectly but I can't get
| > > rid of this spacing. I also have problems it I try to insert it as a DWT the
| > > rest of the page either dissappears or the e only thing I can see of the DWT
| > > is the tags,
| > >
| > > please pass on some of very well appreciated wisdom !
| > >
| > > regards,
| > > JacquieCC
| > >
| > > "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
| > >
| > > > Too bad you only want Ronx. Others may have been able to help.
| > > >
| > > > | > > > | Hi Ronx,
| > > > | please help me I'ìm going banans. I have a header with company name on
| > > > wich
| > > > | I have now incorporated into the Naviagtion bar as anothere row on top of
| > > > the
| > > > | navigation bar in inserted the company logo as a jpeg (comapny logo in
| > > > | Lucida Calligraphy) So I have the Header and navigation bar that I
| > > > | contructed using Interlacken i t looks lovely - just as I wanted - mega -
| > > > but
| > > > | I can't get the flipping thing to insert itself properly on one page let
| > > > | alone all the pages!
| > > > |
| > > > | I have saved it a s a normal page and tried insert page - goes perfectly
| > > > | right to the top of the page but there is a great big open space below it
| > > > and
| > > > | the rest of the page won't move itself up wards to meet up with the
| > > > | naviagtion bar.
| > > > | I then tried saving it as a DWT - that is when I put the header as part of
| > > > | the actual naviagtion bar table as I couldn't get the orinal table cell
| > > > and
| > > > | separate navigation structure which was underneath it to be combine as one
| > > > | editable region. I have tried but with no success to import the Dynamic
| > > > web
| > > > | plate by going into tools - dynamic web plate - manage editable regions -
| > > > | identifying the onlòy one I have which is the Navigation structure - and
| > > > it
| > > > | won't go in - can't even see it - I can see the tag somewhere off to the
| > > > | right but no DWT - and the naviagtion structure should in theroy be
| > > > | absolutley positioned.
| > > > |
| > > > | Any ideas?
| > > > |
| > > > | Please save me!
| > > > |
| > > > | JacquieCC
| > > >
| > > >
| > > >

 

[JacquieCC]

Hi Ronx,
I can't publish what Ive done so far until it at least looks decent. I have
over 100 pages that I need to insert this flippin navigation bar on then I
have to do the same in another 6 languages.
So this is the situation as it stands so far.
I have two headers one saved as a nortmla page - one saved as a DWT - this
has to be ibnserted on the top of all my pages.
All the other pages are finalised - a few have inline frames in them but
generally bare static.
If I trt to apply the navigation using Include content - I end up with a
rather large gap in between the navgation bar/header and the rest of the page
and the rollovers don't work
..
If I try and insert the DWT to my index page for example - basically I just
can't do it.
I have not understood this concept at all which is desperate as I only need
to insert the navigation on the pages.

Do I attach the DWT with the navigation to the top of all my pages or do I
attch all the pages to the navigation.DWT? That is porbably a really stupid
question but maybe I am just doing things the wrong way around. I have been
trying to insert a DWT page to the top of a static page - just won't work.

I have had many problems in the last few months setting up this website but
with the help from Communities have got through them - I do hope I can work
this one out too.

The navigation bar I constructed looks great and works perfectly - shame I
can't put it anywhere at the moment!

regards,
Jacquie

 

[Ronx]

Correction:
www.rxs-enterprises.org/_borders/globalnav.htm

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Jaquie

Can you publish what you have done?

I have used a variation of this menu at www.rxs-enterprises.org, with
a mixture of DWT and include pages, a copy of the DWT is at
www.rxs-enterprises.org/dwt/site.htm , and the menu itself at
www.rxs-enterprises.org/borders/globalnav.htm

The variations I have used may confuse you slightly, but the general
principles are retained and you should be able to see how I fitted the
menu into the pages.

The gap below the menu does appear in some browsers - Netscape6,
Mozilla 1.3 are examples, but should not be there in IE6 or the latest
versions of Netscape and Firefox.
As far as rollovers are concerned - depends on how these were done.
If JavaScript, the script may have to be copied to every page - should
not be necessary when using a DWT.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

Sorry I forgot to ask one other thing - the rollover efects seem

to

have
dissappeared from the navigation menu bar - it still works but no rollover -
can I mend this?
regards,
Jacquie

75 -
can I all

been

page
content up to but
I can't get it
as a DWT the anothere
row on top of bar
that I on
one page let be
combine as one import
the Dynamic

 

[Ronx]

The DWT is a representation of the entire page, without the unique
content, so you attach the DWT to the page - it does not go into any
particular area. Open a page then
Format->Dynamic Web Template->Attach Dynamic Web Template
Browse to your DWT and set the <body> tag to the editable region that
will hold your content. - the dialogue is easier to do than describe.
This adds whatever you have in the DWT - Navigation, Header, Footer
etc. to your existing page.

Could you zip your DWT, menu page and oneor two other content pages
and email to me at
ronx at mvps.org
(do not use the hotmail address on this post - all mails to this addy
are deleted on receipt)