Navigation Bar Issue with IE, Firefox, and Alias URL

J

Jerome

I have two issues. I created a page that has a left vertical navigation bar
and a bottom horizontal navigation bar. Issue 1. Both nav bars work in IE,
but the bottom nav bar doesn't work in Firefox. Here is the site.
http://studentorg.clayton.edu/aphia/. I've looked over the help section with
no luck. Issue 2. Viewing the site with an alias url address of
http://www.tauepsilon.org, the left vertical nav bar doesn't work in IE. Has
anyone experienced these issues? Thanks for any help or guidance you can
provide.
 
D

David Bartosik

Both known and common issues. Discussed here in the forum and mentioned on
http://www.publishermvps.com/Default.aspx?tabid=30 .
Issue 1:
It helps to understand that Publisher is designed to support IE
functionality and exploit it fully. Other browsers aren't a real concern.
This particular issue is due to VML in Publisher 2003. Firefox isn't built
for VML. If you look at the page source in Firefox you see that all the VML
code including the links of that nav bar is commented out by Firefox,
followed by it's replacing it with image file "image661.gif" which is a
static version of the menu. Under Publisher's web options you can turn off
the option to always use VML and then resave and republish and see if that
helps any. Let us know what you find.

Issue 2:
Now we are getting into more technical web stuff. Open your page in IE and
hover the cursor over a link on the left menu and look at the status bar of
the window. Now repeat this process hovering over the bottom menu. Do you see
the distinct differences in the links? The menu on the left has relative
addresses. The bottom menu has absolute addresses. The nav bar wizard always
uses relative in that menu. Frames will break relative addresses. The .org
domain frames the true location of the files. Talk to the hoster of the
framing about redirecting instead of framing.
 
J

Jerome

David,
I checked the web option settings and the only thing I see with VML is "Rely
Both known and common issues. Discussed here in the forum and mentioned on
http://www.publishermvps.com/Default.aspx?tabid=30 .
Issue 1:
It helps to understand that Publisher is designed to support IE
functionality and exploit it fully. Other browsers aren't a real concern.
This particular issue is due to VML in Publisher 2003. Firefox isn't built
for VML. If you look at the page source in Firefox you see that all the VML
code including the links of that nav bar is commented out by Firefox,
followed by it's replacing it with image file "image661.gif" which is a
static version of the menu. Under Publisher's web options you can turn off
the option to always use VML and then resave and republish and see if that
helps any. Let us know what you find.

Issue 2:
Now we are getting into more technical web stuff. Open your page in IE and
hover the cursor over a link on the left menu and look at the status bar of
the window. Now repeat this process hovering over the bottom menu. Do you see
the distinct differences in the links? The menu on the left has relative
addresses. The bottom menu has absolute addresses. The nav bar wizard always
uses relative in that menu. Frames will break relative addresses. The .org
domain frames the true location of the files. Talk to the hoster of the
framing about redirecting instead of framing.

--
David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com



Jerome said:
I have two issues. I created a page that has a left vertical navigation bar
and a bottom horizontal navigation bar. Issue 1. Both nav bars work in IE,
but the bottom nav bar doesn't work in Firefox. Here is the site.
http://studentorg.clayton.edu/aphia/. I've looked over the help section with
no luck. Issue 2. Viewing the site with an alias url address of
http://www.tauepsilon.org, the left vertical nav bar doesn't work in IE. Has
anyone experienced these issues? Thanks for any help or guidance you can
provide.
 
D

David Bartosik [MSFT MVP]

That's it. With that on the code is heavy on VML and PNG usage. With it off,
there is still "some" VML. That is just version 2003 "by design". If you
have that off and you are using "file, publish as web" (filtered html) then
you have the most simple code available out of 2003.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com

Jerome said:
David,
I checked the web option settings and the only thing I see with VML is
"Rely
on VML..." This option is already off? Please advise if this is the one
you
are referring to. Or am I looking in the wrong location?

David Bartosik said:
Both known and common issues. Discussed here in the forum and mentioned
on
http://www.publishermvps.com/Default.aspx?tabid=30 .
Issue 1:
It helps to understand that Publisher is designed to support IE
functionality and exploit it fully. Other browsers aren't a real concern.
This particular issue is due to VML in Publisher 2003. Firefox isn't
built
for VML. If you look at the page source in Firefox you see that all the
VML
code including the links of that nav bar is commented out by Firefox,
followed by it's replacing it with image file "image661.gif" which is a
static version of the menu. Under Publisher's web options you can turn
off
the option to always use VML and then resave and republish and see if
that
helps any. Let us know what you find.

Issue 2:
Now we are getting into more technical web stuff. Open your page in IE
and
hover the cursor over a link on the left menu and look at the status bar
of
the window. Now repeat this process hovering over the bottom menu. Do you
see
the distinct differences in the links? The menu on the left has relative
addresses. The bottom menu has absolute addresses. The nav bar wizard
always
uses relative in that menu. Frames will break relative addresses. The
.org
domain frames the true location of the files. Talk to the hoster of the
framing about redirecting instead of framing.

--
David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com



Jerome said:
I have two issues. I created a page that has a left vertical
navigation bar
and a bottom horizontal navigation bar. Issue 1. Both nav bars work
in IE,
but the bottom nav bar doesn't work in Firefox. Here is the site.
http://studentorg.clayton.edu/aphia/. I've looked over the help
section with
no luck. Issue 2. Viewing the site with an alias url address of
http://www.tauepsilon.org, the left vertical nav bar doesn't work in
IE. Has
anyone experienced these issues? Thanks for any help or guidance you
can
provide.
 

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