Naviigation bar

[Kgdaney]

Why dont my navigation bar show up in my web preview?

 

[DavidF]

There is a compatibility issue with IE8 and Publisher 2003 and 2007. Any
design elements that are 'grouped' together, which includes the Publisher
wizard built navbars, do not render when you view the web page in IE8 . The
fix in general is to ungroup the elements. There is both a manual fix to
these issues and a Service Patch that has been issued to fix it for Pub
2007.

Reference: Navigation bars and other content is missing from Publisher HTML
output in Internet Explorer 8: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/969705

A manual method of fixing this grouping issue:

After making and saving any changes to your Pub file, and prior to uploading
new web files, make a copy of your publication by doing a 'File > Save As'
and in this copy go to each page > Edit > Select All > Arrange > Ungroup.
This will ungroup the Publisher built navbar and disconnect it from the
wizard, and the navbars will render correctly in IE8. 'Publish to the Web'
from this copy of your publication. When you want to make further changes in
your web, go back to the original Publisher file, make the corrections
there, save your changes, and again make a copy, ungroup the
navbars and produce new web files for uploading. The advantage of this
workflow is that you will not have to rebuild the navbar if you choose to
add a page to the navbar. If you do not need to add a page or section to
your site, you can leave the navbar ungrouped and skip the step of saving a
copy.

Publisher 2007 can be fixed manually or with the Office 2007 SP2:

Reference: Description of 2007 Microsoft Office Suite Service Pack 2 (SP2)
and of Microsoft Office Language Pack 2007 SP2:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=953195

Some users have found SP2 breaks Publisher, and makes it impossible to open
existing Pub files...you know, break one thing to fix another, so there is a
hotfix for that:

Description of the Publisher 2007 hotfix package (Publisher-x-none.msp):
October
27, 2009
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/976177/en-us

DavidF

 

[Brendan]

I have the same problem but when I tried viewing it on another computer it
worked fine. Wonder has it something to do with Explorer settings?

 

[jreggy]

Thanks for the info DavidF..However publisher 2007 with SP2 running correctly
and IE8 on both a Vista and a separate Win7 Machine, Still will not display
the NAV bar properly after being uploaded. It does however display correctly
BEFORE publishing to the web, whilst simply doing a preview as a webpage. I
have all updates installed (high priority and extras). Have also performed
full OEM reset on IE8 (advance tab, reset button).

Something i find unusual with checking with Safari on my Mac, I choose from
the developer menu to convert Safari functionality to IE8 mode, where the
website functioned correctly. I also did the same on my Vista machine, with
the pc version of Safari, it also worked. I find it a little disturbing that
apple can make Safari function like IE8 and have site works correctly, but
Microsoft cant get IE8 to function correctly.

Any help would be greatly appreciated

 

[DavidF]

Double check that you have the Office 2007 sp2 installed by going to Help >
About Publisher and you should see the SP2 listed.

If you have indeed installed the SP2, then are you perhaps putting the
navbar on the Master Page? View > Master Page...if you are, then move it to
the main page. The Master Page feature does not work correctly in web
publications and should only be used in print publications.

Perhaps you did not successfully overwrite the old files on your host server
with the new? Try either deleting the old files, or temporarily renaming
them with *.old extensions, and uploading the new files.

And finally, please post a link to your site so we can see what is going on.

As per you finding that MSFT can't get IE8 to work correctly a bit
disturbing, I find a lot of what MSFT does and does not do disturbing ;-). I
mostly just work around it.

DavidF

 

[jreggy]

Thanks DavidF,

I do actaully have the nav bar in the masterpage, I will remove it and try
again. Never even thought of the issue with the masterpage.
the website is www. ecopure.com.au

 

[DavidF]

Thanks for posting back.

Let us know if you have other problems.

DavidF

 

[jreggy]

Thanks DavidF,

Have now got it sorted, all is working fine...Thanks for all your help
It was just the masterpage problem. The site now works in IE6,7,8, and FF
and Safari (from our in-house testing)

This is only the beginning for this site, we already have plans to add many
more pages, along with making it much more user friendly. With in-built
ordering pages that I hope will generate Invoices along with the order
itself. This is only our first site like this so will keep fining our way and
learning at the same time.

Jeff

 

[Thomboy]

Hi David:

I have printed all three articles, and have also downloaded the SP2 for
Office.

Question: Does SP2 'always' break Publisher?

If so, is it best to download and install the Publisher 2007 hotfix package
before openeing and publishing the PUB file?

Thomboy

 

[Thomboy]

David:

I too just tried looking at "about Publisher" and found no mention of SP2,
even though I downloaded the .exe file to my desktop, then installed it from
there; even restarted my PC, but no SP2 showing in "About Publisher."

Any other place it may be found? I also looked at "recent downloads for
Microsoft" and it was not shown there either.

Strange?

Thomboy

 

[Spike]

Thomboy

Did you try going to Help and check for updates?
OR
Using the windows updates and selecting Office updates

The SP2 is for Office 2007 only NOT for 2003

I am not a fan of downloading update files and running them from the desktop

Spike

 

[Thomboy]

Yes, Spike, I used "help and checked for updates," but none shown in the
update history listed Office 2007 of SP2. For Office Outlook 2007 Junk Email
Filter, for Office InfoPath 2007, for MS XML Core Services 4.0 Service Pack
2, another for MS Office Outlook 2007 Junk Email Filter, one for Office Word
2007, and many for Windows 7, but nothing specifically for Office 2007
Service Pack 2 Update.

I am not sure how to select Office Updates when in Windows Updates.

Yes, and I am looking for SP2 for Office 2007, the software I am using with
Windows 7 as my operating system, plus IE 8.

I downloaded the SP2 Office Update and ran it from my desktop, then did it
again and chose run from the download wizard.

When I go to "About Microsoft Office Publisher," I see 'Microsoft Office
Publisher 2007 (12.0.6501.5000) SP2 MSO (12.0.6425.1000).

I just didn't see it! Blind or had my extra dark glasses on.

QUESTION: Is it best to download and install the "Publisher 2007 hotfix
package (Publisher.msp)" before I try to upload my PUB File using Filezilla
Client to GoDaddy - the WWW?

Thanks for the help, Thomboy

 

[DavidF]

You only run a hotfix if you are experiencing the specific problems fixed by
that hotfix. If you can open your publisher files without an error message
after apply the SP, then you don't need the hotfix.

DavidF

 

[DavidF]

No, the sp does not always break Publisher and once again you never apply a
hotfix unless you are experiencing the specific problems it is designed to
fix. You don't apply them as a precaution. I just include the reference to
the hotfix so that people can choose not to install the SP if they want, or
will already know about the fix if the SP breaks things.

I am perhaps a bit flippant about the SP breaking Publisher as it seems all
to often that one of MS patches does indeed break something in order to fix
something else. But then I guess I should be surprised it doesn't happen
more often given how complex software is these days. Never the less, I tend
to avoid installing most patches until I have to and unlike Spike I don't
ever allow the automatic updating of my computer. I always download and
install the patches manually. I have more control and I also have multiple
machines that I will patch, so I want to take the time to download the patch
only once. But all this is off the point...

DavidF

 

[Thomboy]

As I said earlier, I should not have asked the same question three times in
different posts.

Having said that, I do appreciate your courtesy in replying about the
"hotfix" patch and why or why not to use it. I may be a bit cautious about
hotfixes and patches in general, because I too have used them only to be
foreced to uninstall the patch to get things to work again, after I backed up
everything to be safe.

They say that experience is the best teacher, but those darn mistakes do
cause a lot of grief, and I like you, dislike having to keep fixing something
that a patch was supposed to cure.

I too tend NOT to allow my PCs to receive updates automatically, but prefer
to install them manually. I guess I have too much time on my hands, but if I
see something happening in the middle of a download, I can abort it, find the
thing that may have caused it -- something stupid like NOT disengaging the
firewall or temporarily turning off the spyware or anti-virus.

Anyway, thanks for the side talk about your rationale for the way you
operate; that makes two of us. Isn't it better to be safe than sorry?

Best, Thomboy

 

[DavidF]

I don't even have my computers set up to automatically update antivirus. I
manually choose when to do that.

For what it is worth, I also don't always install MSFT SP. I have not
installed the SP2 on my main production computer and probably won't. I only
installed it on a test partition with Pub 2007. That partition is relatively
small with few applications installed and I have an image of it that I can
reinstall fairly quickly and easily using Acronis True Image. That is the
partition I install all the test beta software, and I try the patches there
before installing on my main machine.

Also don't forget that you don't have to install the SP2 to fix the navbar
issue. You can manually ungroup them. The only problem is that it also
ungroups the navbars from the navbar wizard and you would have to reinstall
the navbars if you wanted to add a page or section to the main navbars.

Enough for now.

DavidF

 

[Thomboy]

I am actually glad to hear that you use Acronis True Image on a small
partition on your HD. I have given thought to doing that, rather than using
Acronis on my entire hard drive, then doing incremental BU, but just haven't
taken the time to do the same thing.

When I see some of your answers or Spike or Don's replies I am prompted to
ask ANOTHER question, but know you or one of them have probably already
answered that same Q somewhere else for the upteenth time.

But, as I used to tell my university students, "There is no such thing as a
stupid question!" I hope you feel the same way.

Thanks for repeating that using the ungroup function "also ungroups the
navbars from the navbar wizard and I MAY have to reinstall the navbars if I
want to add a page or section to the main navbars.

Thanks a bunch for repeating things you have told others, again for me.

Thomboy