Need help on re-organizing this website

[Tom Miller]

I have volunteered to try to re-organize the website: http://www.hcci-ks.org
before we re-design/re-develop it. It apears to have been last touched with
FrontPage 2003. The current maintainer is an Administrative Assistant who
understands that she doesn't understand anything. If you import a copy of
the website you will discover that it has 1 images sub-directory and a bunch
of .htm, .pdf, .doc, .jpg files in the root.

If you simply try to move the graphics from the root into the images
sub-directory you will discover that you will break things because of
duplicate graphics file names. I finally got around that by creating a
second images sub-directory named images2.

I have now, re-created this website for about the 3rd time on my development
machine.

I have uploaded my progress todate at:
http://bluecollar.chatnfiles.com/projects/hcci-ks-v2/default.htm

This is a direct copy that I haven't made any changes to, hosted at the same
location: http://bluecollar.chatnfiles.com/projects/hcci-ks-backup/

They both behave the same way but differently from the main website. This
host sub-directory does not have FPSE installed. Any ideas why the buttons
are not rolling over correctly?

Thanks,
Tom
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[Ronx]

The images used for the rollovers are not on the server - or not where they
should be.

Example, the Home button (original site) uses buttonA.jpg and buttonB.jpg,
both in the
http://bluecollar.chatnfiles.com/projects/hcci-ks-v2/images/ folder.
ButtonA.jpg is there, buttonB.jpg isn't.

The updated site is looking in
http://bluecollar.chatnfiles.com/projects/hcci-ks-backup/images
but again buttonA.jpg is there, but no buttonB.jpg .
Same applies to buttonC.jpg - missing.
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[Tina Clarke]

Um if your going to redesign it why bother with the fp hover code? Just get
your design done and implement that.. why waste time on fp nav code you know
its never going to validate even if it works.???

Just implement some css instead... why not do that?

Tina

 

[Tom Miller]

Um if your going to redesign it why bother with the fp hover code? Just
get your design done and implement that.. why waste time on fp nav code
you know its never going to validate even if it works.???

Just implement some css instead... why not do that?

Tina

Excellent question Tina. Now that I have gotten all the way in there, I am
asking myself the very same question(s).

Basically I wanted to cleanup the website so it would be more maintainable.
Then if I were to stop there, at least there would be some improvement for
the A.A./Secretary who is their "maintainer."

Good intentions never go un-punished. Do they?

Thank you for jiggling my elbox.

Tom
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[Tom Miller]

Example, the Home button (original site) uses buttonA.jpg and buttonB.jpg,
both in the
http://bluecollar.chatnfiles.com/projects/hcci-ks-v2/images/ folder.
ButtonA.jpg is there, buttonB.jpg isn't.

Thanks, Ron.

Part of the headache on this website is duplicate image names located either
in the images folder or in the root of the website. I thought I downloaded
a copy of the website and haven't touched it but it sounds like I must have.

Tom
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[Ronx]

bttona.jpg is on the server, buttonA.jpg is not - this is cAsE sensitivity
at work, Unix servers are case sensitive whereas Windows servers are not.

Easiest solution is to rename any button images to the lower case version,
(a two step process is required - change to a different name, then change
again to the required name. for example, buttonA.jpg becomes buttona1.jpg,
then buttona1.jpg becomes buttona.jpg. The 2 steps are because Windows
regards upper and lower case filenames as identical, so will not change the
filename in practise - only the way it is written in the file/folder view.)
Then use search and replace to change all the references in your HTML code -
FP will not change the code for the rollovers.

This is tedious if there are a lot of buttons.

There used to be a casechanger addin on http://www.jimcosoftware.com, but
this has been removed "temporarily". It is possible (no promises) that Jim
can supply you with a copy if you write to him using the contact link on the
site. This addin may not do anything about the rollover images, but it will
rename all files and folders to lower case, and change links to those
files/folders IF the links are not in javascript. Back up the site before
using it. The addin is safe, I have used it many times, but not with
JavaScript links.

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