Need web page review and question about revisions

D

DMC

I am hoping to get some input on a website I recently designed. If anyone is
interested in reviewing, I would sure appreciate it. www.castlecompany.net

Also, instead of trying to repost revisions on my website, I just deleted
the whole file and reposted the entire thing. Is there a problem doing it
this way? It seemed so much easier than how I had been instructed to do it
and has worked very well. I'm just not sure if it will confuse things with
search engines.

Thanks,
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

If you're concerned about search engines you need to address the problem
that nothing (except the top banner text) will be visible to them because
it's all an image. Search engine spiders cannot read images, so you're seo
will be very poor on pages that should be text are turned into images by
Publisher - go back to your original pub file and look for overlapping text
boxes and run design checker as well.

Also check ALL your pages in other browsers...like FireFox, Opera etc.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression






| I am hoping to get some input on a website I recently designed. If anyone
is
| interested in reviewing, I would sure appreciate it.
www.castlecompany.net
|
| Also, instead of trying to repost revisions on my website, I just deleted
| the whole file and reposted the entire thing. Is there a problem doing it
| this way? It seemed so much easier than how I had been instructed to do it
| and has worked very well. I'm just not sure if it will confuse things with
| search engines.
|
| Thanks,
 
D

DMC

I ran design check and all is well. I don't think I have text over lapping
with pictures. All my pictures are in picture boxes and text is in text
boxes.
I noticed that each time I delete the web page file and upload again, I can
pull up all of the old pages on Google. So are saying it is okay to post
revisions in this way?
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

You mean incremental publishing? Yes, ok as far as SEO just make sure you
don't change the page's file name.

What I was talking about though is on your index page...the entire content
section that begins with; "The Castle Company provides..." is an image,
search engine will not see any of that text which is important for seo.

DavidF will pop along soon and have some input on why this happens.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression






| I ran design check and all is well. I don't think I have text over lapping
| with pictures. All my pictures are in picture boxes and text is in text
| boxes.
| I noticed that each time I delete the web page file and upload again, I
can
| pull up all of the old pages on Google. So are saying it is okay to post
| revisions in this way?
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
|
| > If you're concerned about search engines you need to address the problem
| > that nothing (except the top banner text) will be visible to them
because
| > it's all an image. Search engine spiders cannot read images, so you're
seo
| > will be very poor on pages that should be text are turned into images by
| > Publisher - go back to your original pub file and look for overlapping
text
| > boxes and run design checker as well.
| >
| > Also check ALL your pages in other browsers...like FireFox, Opera etc.
| >
| > --
| > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| > Rob Giordano
| > Microsoft MVP Expression
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | > | I am hoping to get some input on a website I recently designed. If
anyone
| > is
| > | interested in reviewing, I would sure appreciate it.
| > www.castlecompany.net
| > |
| > | Also, instead of trying to repost revisions on my website, I just
deleted
| > | the whole file and reposted the entire thing. Is there a problem doing
it
| > | this way? It seemed so much easier than how I had been instructed to
do it
| > | and has worked very well. I'm just not sure if it will confuse things
with
| > | search engines.
| > |
| > | Thanks,
| >
| >
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

Glad you popped in. The text is an image in IE7...and probably will be in
IE8 when it's released.


--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression






| Which version of Publisher are you using? If you are using Pub 2003, then
go
| to Tools > Options > Web tab and be sure to uncheck "rely on vml...",
(this
| option has been removed in Pub 2007), uncheck "allow png..." and assuming
| that you are using ftp uploading, uncheck the incremental upload option.
|
| Yes, it may be ok to delete the old web files from the server before
| uploading the new. In theory when you publish new files, they should
| overwrite the old ones, but that doesn't mean that your way is wrong,
| especially if you use FTP uploading. In fact, personally that is the way I
| do it. However, if you were using HTTP uploading with FPSE, using the
| incremental uploading feature in Publisher, or if you have a large site,
it
| is probably better to not delete the old. In fact, it may create problems.
|
| As to Rob's comment about the whole page being an image(s), this is partly
| true in FF, but not in IE. The text box in the middle column is converted
to
| an image in FF but not IE. As I used a slow dial-up connection I could
watch
| the page load fairly slowly, and though I am not sure of why the text is
| converted to an image in FF, it may very well be because of the way you
have
| overlapped different design elements. It may also be that you have
"grouped"
| the text box with other design elements, and that may be causing it.
Ungroup
| everything on the pages except for the wizard built menu before you
produce
| new html files. That might solve the image/text problem.
|
| You should download and install FireFox so you can test your site. It is a
| small download and an easy install. If you get your site to view correctly
| in FF and IE, then you will have most browsers covered, which should be
your
| goal. As I said, I am not sure of what you are doing, but after looking
for
| the "grouping" problem and eliminating it as the cause, you need to change
| your layout such that the text does not convert to an image in FF. I would
| "deconstruct" a page by moving most of the design elements into the
scratch
| area except for the center text box, and Publishing to the web and
directing
| the output to my computer, and then opening those files in FF to test. Add
| back design elements and test as you go until you find what is converting
| your text into an image. You can test the text by trying to select it in
the
| browser. If it is an image, you won't be able to do so. Also in FF you can
| right click and you will have the option to save as an image, but not in
IE.
| One possible reason for the text being converted is the way you have
| overlapped the center column with the images in the right column .
|
| And speaking of SEO, I would suggest that you do go to Tools > Web page
| options and add a description and keywords for each page, and perhaps a
Page
| Title.
|
| Be sure to use the Compress graphics tool on all the images.
|
| Otherwise, your site seems to work and look ok. Congrats...I am sure it
took
| a lot longer and more effort than you thought it would when you started
;-).
|
| DavidF
|
|
| | >I ran design check and all is well. I don't think I have text over
lapping
| > with pictures. All my pictures are in picture boxes and text is in text
| > boxes.
| > I noticed that each time I delete the web page file and upload again, I
| > can
| > pull up all of the old pages on Google. So are saying it is okay to post
| > revisions in this way?
| >
| > "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
| >
| >> If you're concerned about search engines you need to address the
problem
| >> that nothing (except the top banner text) will be visible to them
because
| >> it's all an image. Search engine spiders cannot read images, so you're
| >> seo
| >> will be very poor on pages that should be text are turned into images
by
| >> Publisher - go back to your original pub file and look for overlapping
| >> text
| >> boxes and run design checker as well.
| >>
| >> Also check ALL your pages in other browsers...like FireFox, Opera etc.
| >>
| >> --
| >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| >> Rob Giordano
| >> Microsoft MVP Expression
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >> | >> | I am hoping to get some input on a website I recently designed. If
| >> anyone
| >> is
| >> | interested in reviewing, I would sure appreciate it.
| >> www.castlecompany.net
| >> |
| >> | Also, instead of trying to repost revisions on my website, I just
| >> deleted
| >> | the whole file and reposted the entire thing. Is there a problem
doing
| >> it
| >> | this way? It seemed so much easier than how I had been instructed to
do
| >> it
| >> | and has worked very well. I'm just not sure if it will confuse things
| >> with
| >> | search engines.
| >> |
| >> | Thanks,
| >>
| >>
|
|
 
D

DavidF

Which version of Publisher are you using? If you are using Pub 2003, then go
to Tools > Options > Web tab and be sure to uncheck "rely on vml...", (this
option has been removed in Pub 2007), uncheck "allow png..." and assuming
that you are using ftp uploading, uncheck the incremental upload option.

Yes, it may be ok to delete the old web files from the server before
uploading the new. In theory when you publish new files, they should
overwrite the old ones, but that doesn't mean that your way is wrong,
especially if you use FTP uploading. In fact, personally that is the way I
do it. However, if you were using HTTP uploading with FPSE, using the
incremental uploading feature in Publisher, or if you have a large site, it
is probably better to not delete the old. In fact, it may create problems.

As to Rob's comment about the whole page being an image(s), this is partly
true in FF, but not in IE. The text box in the middle column is converted to
an image in FF but not IE. As I used a slow dial-up connection I could watch
the page load fairly slowly, and though I am not sure of why the text is
converted to an image in FF, it may very well be because of the way you have
overlapped different design elements. It may also be that you have "grouped"
the text box with other design elements, and that may be causing it. Ungroup
everything on the pages except for the wizard built menu before you produce
new html files. That might solve the image/text problem.

You should download and install FireFox so you can test your site. It is a
small download and an easy install. If you get your site to view correctly
in FF and IE, then you will have most browsers covered, which should be your
goal. As I said, I am not sure of what you are doing, but after looking for
the "grouping" problem and eliminating it as the cause, you need to change
your layout such that the text does not convert to an image in FF. I would
"deconstruct" a page by moving most of the design elements into the scratch
area except for the center text box, and Publishing to the web and directing
the output to my computer, and then opening those files in FF to test. Add
back design elements and test as you go until you find what is converting
your text into an image. You can test the text by trying to select it in the
browser. If it is an image, you won't be able to do so. Also in FF you can
right click and you will have the option to save as an image, but not in IE.
One possible reason for the text being converted is the way you have
overlapped the center column with the images in the right column .

And speaking of SEO, I would suggest that you do go to Tools > Web page
options and add a description and keywords for each page, and perhaps a Page
Title.

Be sure to use the Compress graphics tool on all the images.

Otherwise, your site seems to work and look ok. Congrats...I am sure it took
a lot longer and more effort than you thought it would when you started ;-).

DavidF
 
D

DavidF

Rob, Actually the left column is an image in IE6 too. What about the middle
column of text? It is fine in IE6.

I was going to comment on the left column issue, but ran out of time and
also didn't want to overload the OP with too much feedback, but you bring up
an important design issue. I think most people look to the left column for a
menu where the OP has put the "specializing in". It appears that the OP may
have put a hotspot hyperlink over the whole thing which links to his
services page, and in so doing that may be why it has been converted to an
image. Mouseover the image and you will see one link regardless of which
"text" you mouseover. Notice the "contact" text below it is still text...as
is the "Specializing in" text...at least in IE6.

Personally, I think it might be better to use a vertical navbar there,
either wizard or hand-built, and move that "specializing in..." information
somewhere else, but it does work to take the viewer to the services page.
However, the way it is now is confusing, and as you point out, it is all
converted to an image and thus won't be read. Perhaps add the menu, and move
the specialized services down, and remove the "box bullets" which imply that
each line is a link.

DavidF
 

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