New Email Tool Bar that doesn't exist?

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Rev Anderson

While I am asking questions about the NEW Outlook programming:

Why does the New Email window have a "Default Tool Bar" that is NOT listed
as a Tool Bar and can not be customized or turned off???

This only adds to the irritation I have developed with the NEW outlook 2003
application. I have lost my ability to modify and control how it appears and
works. Now, instead of being a tool that I can actually use to perform
productive work I am being forced to use what some "programmer" or "project
manager (What a Joke)" says I need to use.

It is now time for me to search for an alternative to this "programmer"
controlled email software.
 
B

Brian Tillman

Rev Anderson said:
While I am asking questions about the NEW Outlook programming:

Why does the New Email window have a "Default Tool Bar" that is NOT
listed as a Tool Bar and can not be customized or turned off???

What is in this "Default Tool Bar"? My Outlook compose window has only two:
Standard and Formatting. If I use Word as the editor, I also have the Word
toolbars. None are called "Default"
 
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Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]

I think he might mean the toolbar exposed in the Envelope object exposed in
a WordMail document when Word is being used as an email editor. That toolbar
isn't available for customization whether in the UI or in code.

In code about all you can do is hook to the Word document being used as a
mail item (Window.Envelope.Visible = True) and customize the Word Standard
toolbar or main menu bar.
 
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Rev Anderson

Thank You!

Turning off the Word Editor got rid of that tool bar.

Now, if only I could customize and keep the other tool bars customized,
instead of having to modify them each time Outlook is closed and re-opened -
just like I could in Outlook 2k and XP, I would be happy.

I only use about 4 or 5 items and remove every thing else.
 
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Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]

Any customizations you make should be retained. You might have corrupt
Outcmd.dat file, which is where your customizations are stored. Find and
delete that file (enable showing hidden and system files and folders) and
Outlook will rebuild that file when it starts up. Then on close it will be
saved with your customizations.
 
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Rev Anderson

I saw your post about that yesterday. But, that didn't change a thing when I
renamed and the Outcmd.dat file to Outcmd.da_ and restarted Outlook. It
created a new file but still does not keep the changes.
 
K

Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]

In general if that fails, the next step would be to create from scratch a
new Outlook profile (not a copy of an existing one) and see if that solves
the problem.

Are you running any addins or COM addins that add UI to the toolbars? Some
of those aren't correctly written and corrupt things. If you have any addins
or COM addins I'd also try disabling them all and seeing what happens. If
that works then re-enable them one at a time and see which is the source of
the corruption.
 
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Rev Anderson

Thanks,

I only have what came with my MS Office Professional with Business Contact
Manager. I do not allow third party toolbars except for Copernic Agent in
Internet Explorer and I even have that turned off unless I am doing a lot of
research.

It appears to be keeping my changes now. I would love to find the Registry
Key for turning off the Business Contact Manager Toolbar. But, the only
solution posted is to uninstall or to turn Business Contact Manager off and I
am using it, I just don't like the toolbar.
 
K

Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]

BCM does some nasty things to toolbars, or it can. That could be the
problem. If it's installed you can disable it from the registry without
uninstalling it. This won't disable just the BCM toolbar however, it will
disable BCM completely.

Start, Run. In that dialog type:

regedit

Then press Enter.

In regedit:

Navigate to the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE hive of the registry and expand that tree
node. Navigate to
Software\Microsoft\Office\Outlook\Addins\Microsoft.BusinessSolutions.eCRM.OutlookAddIn.Connect.1
and in that key select the LoadBehavior value on the right hand side.
Right-click on LoadBehavior and change it from 3 to 2 or 0.

Do that with Outlook closed. After that change BCM will be disabled. To
re-enable it set LoadBehavior back to 3.
 

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