new "Office Home and Student 2007" & XP = no spell checker in outl

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pioneer (count the arrows in my back)

I am retired and went back to college. No bookstore available due to Katrina,
Classes in old hospital. Got new XP computer. Loaded paid-for Office 97 Pro.
This class needed Access. Access won't run in Office 97 pro.
Tried to fix it.
Now outlook express lost spell checker.
Bought Office home and Student 2007 to get spell checker back.
No "remove old office first" instructions.
3 tries, A week's food money gone, and no office toolbar, and no outlook
express email spell checker.
No support phone number - not even for one day
Help
---> put "Help" in subject <---
 
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pioneer (count the arrows in my back)

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pioneer (count the arrows in my back)

Thank you.
It saddens me that I went through literally "Hell" to make my mainframe
programs work for years, and Microsoft produces one program that destroys
their own program.
Thanks again
Pioneer
 
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Bob Buckland ?:-\)

Hi Pioneer,

Are you running both Office 2007 and Office 97? What were the symptoms of Access 97 not running on your PC (exact error message)?


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I am retired and went back to college. No bookstore available due to Katrina,
Classes in old hospital. Got new XP computer. Loaded paid-for Office 97 Pro.
This class needed Access. Access won't run in Office 97 pro.
Tried to fix it.
Now outlook express lost spell checker.
Bought Office home and Student 2007 to get spell checker back.
No "remove old office first" instructions.
3 tries, A week's food money gone, and no office toolbar, and no outlook
express email spell checker.
No support phone number - not even for one day
Help>>
--

Bob Buckland ?:)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
 
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Pioneer

Bob said:
Hi Pioneer,

Are you running both Office 2007 and Office 97? What were the symptoms
of Access 97 not running on your PC (exact error message)?

::I finaly figured out how to do this reply.
I am an old mainframe COBOL programmer and used the PC only as a
terminal and email platform for a defense contractor (\"Don't mess with
PC or security will visit you\").

Anyway, here is all the evidence I can find so you only need to spend
time on me once.

Until I stumbled into a place to post the messages in help, I did not
have any idea your help forums existed.
This is my Radio Control computer. It is stock except for the addin
card with extra serial ports. It came with a legal CD (XP with SP2).
I use the CA security suite (security was required before retirement,
and I kept it ). In the experimental radio group, the computer sends
code, and we chat by email about technical and propagation - so it is
online 6 to 10 hours a night.
For the first year, Outlook Express spell checker and Office worked Ok
with Word and EXCEL, I had no need to open Access.

During that year the windows update was on continuously and updated
itself, as did the CA security. Office 97 (legal CD) ran fine, as did
the Radio controlling programs.

There are two hard drives in the machine, one I use for backup.

When I started the database class I noticed that Access (part of office
97)would let me create tables, but not create queries on them.

I went back and tried to repair office 97 from the CD, then to
reinstall it.
each time it gave me an error message that HTM (something) could not
register itself and that office (97) install failed.
Word and EXCEL still worked, so I was OK with radio logs, but could not
do ACCESS homework.
I figured that your \"anti-piracy\" update saw that Office 97 was too
old and was blocking it.
(Do you remember \"The program ain't done until Lotus won't run\" ?).

I moved the radio programs and logs to the backup and zip drives and
did a windows repair, and office (97) reinstall - no change.

I reformatted the \"C\" drive and reinstalled Windows, redid the 76
updates, and tried to reinstall Office 97 - same results.
I reformatted the hard drive and reinstalled windows with the router
cable disconnected, and tried to reinstall office 97 - same results.

I decided to buy your Office Home and Student 2007 and do homework on
my wife's computer where access 97 works (came installed on the
machine).
Office 2007 kills my OE spell checker. I send a lot of email.
I have tried the online suggestion (CSAPI3T1.DLL) unsuccssfully.

WindowsXP home edition is: QH73X-PPRPR-G2K27-XW6Q2-CYHHB
Office Home and Student 2007 is: Q6Q8P-2BRD8-T7MVP-XRVX3-J4DH8
Yes, I opened the box and can't take it back.
I know this is too wordy, but I appreciate any help I can get and don't
want to waste your time having to ask over and over.
Thank you,
Pioneer::
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<<"pioneer (count the arrows in my back)" <pioneer (count the arrows in
my back)@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
I am retired and went back to college. No bookstore available due to
Katrina,
Classes in old hospital. Got new XP computer. Loaded paid-for Office 97
Pro.
This class needed Access. Access won't run in Office 97 pro.
Tried to fix it.
Now outlook express lost spell checker.
Bought Office home and Student 2007 to get spell checker back.
No "remove old office first" instructions.
3 tries, A week's food money gone, and no office toolbar, and no
outlook
express email spell checker.
No support phone number - not even for one day
Help>>
--

Bob Buckland ?:)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
Click to expand...

do I need to type down here ?
 
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Pioneer

I am not trying to run both Office 97 and Office home and student 2007
at the same time. I gave up on the office 97 with updated XP.
I am trying to run the Home and student 2007 with the updated XP.
I discovered that I had forgotten that the machine has only a 1.6 gig
processor and 500 megabytes of memory. The magnifying glass tells me on
the side of the box that I need at least a gigabyte of memory. SAMS does
not supply magnifying glasses and I don't remember the big piece of
cardboard telling me.
Anyway, next week I will carry the machine to the store and see if they
can match up the memory that is only a year old with what is now
available.

But Then, What do I do about theOutlook Express Spell checker ?

I hope this is the correct way to reply to the # 5 thread question. It
is the first time I have used the forums, and I put the big answer in
the middle of the quote before.
Why is cut and paste not on the menu ?
Best wishes,
Pioneer
 
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Bob Buckland ?:-\)

Hi Pioneer,

The 'forums' you're using mirror newsgroup postings from other locations. For example, you can access this discussion/newsgroup as
hosted on the Microsoft servers, directly by using the links below (your message is being replied to from the MS hosted newsgroup).
'Mirrored' forums hosted on other servers, in the case here Techarena.in, wrap the content in their own 'web page' control set.
There should be an admin group or how to use instructions someplace there that have directions on how to use their specific
interface.

Office 2007 doesn't require the 1GB of RAM, but some of the advanced features do, the 'contextual spelling' checker (not regular
checker) for example, but the Office 2007 apps do tend to perform better with 'more' memory :)

Outlook Express, is a part of MS Windows Internet Explorer rather than MS Office (it's original name was MS Internet Mail & News
(MSIMN.exe runs Outlook Express) didn't come with its own speller, proofing tools, but could use the Office ones when Office was
installed. The IE/Outlook Express team chose not to invest in Outlook Express (basically discontinued) to be able to 'hook' to the
new proofing tools that came out with Office 2007. The workarounds are to use proofing tools installed from an older version of
Office or use one of the 3rd party ones, some free, available, such as these two.

Tinyspell:
http://tinyspell.m6.net

Vampirefo Spellchecker for Outlook Express (OE):
http://geocities.com/vampirefo/

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I am not trying to run both Office 97 and Office home and student 2007
at the same time. I gave up on the office 97 with updated XP.
I am trying to run the Home and student 2007 with the updated XP.
I discovered that I had forgotten that the machine has only a 1.6 gig
processor and 500 megabytes of memory. The magnifying glass tells me on
the side of the box that I need at least a gigabyte of memory. SAMS does
not supply magnifying glasses and I don't remember the big piece of
cardboard telling me.
Anyway, next week I will carry the machine to the store and see if they
can match up the memory that is only a year old with what is now
available.

But Then, What do I do about theOutlook Express Spell checker ?

I hope this is the correct way to reply to the # 5 thread question. It
is the first time I have used the forums, and I put the big answer in
the middle of the quote before.
Why is cut and paste not on the menu ?
Best wishes,
Pioneer >>
--
Please let us know if this has helped,

Bob Buckland ?:)
MS Office System Products MVP

LINKS
A. Specific newsgroup/discussion group mentioned in this message:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.office.misc
or via browser:
http://microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/?dg=microsoft.public.office.misc

B. MS Office Community discussion/newsgroups via Web Browser
http://microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx
or
Microsoft hosted newsgroups via Outlook Express/newsreader
news://msnews.microsoft.com
 
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Pioneer

Thank you very much for the reply to this old amn.
Please read the rest of this and give me your opinion of the best
option for me.
With the partially-installed Office 97, I could have a logging
spreadsheet, Beacon code generating program, beacon code reading
program, and email program open and send and receive emails without
upsetting the timing of the beacon programs. Now, with just the beacon
program and one other program running, the beacon code stops dead while
I move a window in the screen.
My (handicapped) wife has 27 years of hunt-and peck genealogy data in
the last version of a program which originated in a TRS-80 Model 1 in
Microsoft basic.
I bought the source code from the author (written in Microsoft basic
pro 7.1 with assembler mouse routines). He used 16 bit indexes, and
she has overrun the capacity of the program (4 instances now).
I was going to recompile the program in visual basic 4 with VB routines
replacing the assembler code, took a "modern" Software engineering
course, and learned the professor did not want to do anything except in
the "latest" programming methods. VB4 quits when it hits the end of the
first subroutine, and nobody can tell me how to block out the code so
VB4 will compile it.
I found Fujitsu COBOL for the PC on the net, but I don't know enough PC
innards to use it.
How can I re-write the program so a descendant can load the CD toward
the end of the 5 generations a CD will last - and have the program run
?

I worked for a NASA contractor and know of all the tapes stored and
rewound so carefully over the years that they now must build special
tape drives to resd.
To reload the Office 97, ((and still be spyware, virus, and spam
free)), I would need to wipe the hard drive again, load DOS 6.2, use
my update to Windows 3.1, use my update to Windows 95, use my update to
Windows 98, Load Office 97, and swap off my paid-for new-install-only
XP-SP2 CD for an Update XP-SP2 CD and finally update to XP-SP2 and then
add the 76 security updates.
At age 66, I have only a few years left, and want to run this computer
as long as I can see it and drive the same car as long as I can see to
do it.

Perhaps I picked the pseudonym "Pioneer" to imply that I am one of the
early customers who allowed your company to succeed.
You make your paycheck from business, which is why I really did not
expect a VP to answer my cry,
so how about pushing up the chain a proposal for using the data
warehouse where we registered DOS-5,etc to verify who the pioneers are,
and give us some kind of long-term "pioneer" support.
I have hundreds of hours writing DOS Basic programs for Ham Radio, but
they are now useless, Multiply that by the hundreds of pioneer
customers, and that is a lot of work being lost because business needs
faster machines.

Thank you again for reading this far,
Step 1 will be to see if more memory will make me able to use the
beacon program and EXCEL log and email at the same time.
Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Pioneer
P.S. Tell any radio hams to look at www.500kc.com - we need the
interested people to log receptions.
 
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nancynicholson

I am trying to post a question, and when ever I click on the question button,
I get this "clicky" sound, and I am not able to post the question. How do I
get started. It should not be this difficult.
 
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Beth Melton

The "clicky" sound you hear is a popup blocker. The New Post opens in a
popup window and as a result it's being blocked. You should see a yellow bar
below the Address bar. Click the Info bar and select either Temporarily
allow Pop-ups or Always Pop-ups.

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Co-author of Word 2007 Inside Out:
http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/books/9801.aspx#AboutTheBook

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/
 

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