not another VIDEO question

L

lorry

PPT 2003, windows x[

Insert a video file - (smallish ~ 1mb).

When viewed (by coubleclicking) in normal view it plays normally

In the slideshow it is VERY jerky

I have my hardware acceleration down as movies were often becoming black
boxes

latest updates of windows, video card drivers (although happened with older
driver too....card is nvidia GeFOrce 4 MX420), computer is pentium 4 with a
gig of RAM ie shouldnt be a processor problem

Any ideas

oh yes, the videos are mpeg and avi in standard codecs and run fne in
quicktime and mediaplayer and (mplayer via the run command)
 
S

Sonia

Given that you've addressed the normal things we would suggest, it sounds
like there is competition for resources on your system. However, how far
down have you set hardware acceleration? Try lowering it more if possible.

Is the presentation being played from your hard drive, or from a CD or other
removable media or from a network drive?

Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to bring up Task Manager. What other applications are
running? What is the CPU Usage %? Click on the Processes tab. Tap twice
on the CPU column to sort it by % in descending order. What are the most
active processes, other than System Idle?
 
L

lorry

Thanks for your rapid reply Sonia,

HArdware acceleration : doesnt matter - as long as its about half way down
then the movies play (ie not a black box), but if i go all the way to the
left, the video is no better or worse. HAve tried with write combing on and
off.

I have some screen shots of the task manager that i could send to you...in
summary however
1. ppt open no movie playing:
system idle 70%
ppt - 14%

2.: ppt open in normal view - one movie playing
system idle 50%
ppt -34%

3. ppt open in slideshow mode - movie playing
a: just watching it
system idle 1%
ppt - 98%

b: when snagging it
system idle 40%
ppt - 43%


Sigh

Lorry


Sonia said:
Given that you've addressed the normal things we would suggest, it sounds
like there is competition for resources on your system. However, how far
down have you set hardware acceleration? Try lowering it more if possible.

Is the presentation being played from your hard drive, or from a CD or other
removable media or from a network drive?

Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to bring up Task Manager. What other applications are
running? What is the CPU Usage %? Click on the Processes tab. Tap twice
on the CPU column to sort it by % in descending order. What are the most
active processes, other than System Idle?
--
Sonia, MS PowerPoint MVP Team
Autorun CD software, templates, and tutorials
http://www.soniacoleman.com/


lorry said:
PPT 2003, windows x[

Insert a video file - (smallish ~ 1mb).

When viewed (by coubleclicking) in normal view it plays normally

In the slideshow it is VERY jerky

I have my hardware acceleration down as movies were often becoming black
boxes

latest updates of windows, video card drivers (although happened with older
driver too....card is nvidia GeFOrce 4 MX420), computer is pentium 4
with
a
gig of RAM ie shouldnt be a processor problem

Any ideas

oh yes, the videos are mpeg and avi in standard codecs and run fne in
quicktime and mediaplayer and (mplayer via the run command)
 
S

Sonia

Thanks for the information. Number 3 tells us that running the movie in in
Show mode in PowerPoint is "pegging" the CPU, which explains to me why the
play is jerky. My guess is that something about the videos is causing
PowerPoint to work overtime decoding them. Where did they come from? Have
they been converted from other formats? Do you know the image size, sample
size, compression and frame rate? You should be able to right click on them
in Windows Explorer, select Properties, and click on the Summary tab.

lorry said:
Thanks for your rapid reply Sonia,

HArdware acceleration : doesnt matter - as long as its about half way down
then the movies play (ie not a black box), but if i go all the way to the
left, the video is no better or worse. HAve tried with write combing on and
off.

I have some screen shots of the task manager that i could send to you...in
summary however
1. ppt open no movie playing:
system idle 70%
ppt - 14%

2.: ppt open in normal view - one movie playing
system idle 50%
ppt -34%

3. ppt open in slideshow mode - movie playing
a: just watching it
system idle 1%
ppt - 98%

b: when snagging it
system idle 40%
ppt - 43%


Sigh

Lorry


Sonia said:
Given that you've addressed the normal things we would suggest, it sounds
like there is competition for resources on your system. However, how far
down have you set hardware acceleration? Try lowering it more if possible.

Is the presentation being played from your hard drive, or from a CD or other
removable media or from a network drive?

Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to bring up Task Manager. What other applications are
running? What is the CPU Usage %? Click on the Processes tab. Tap twice
on the CPU column to sort it by % in descending order. What are the most
active processes, other than System Idle?
--
Sonia, MS PowerPoint MVP Team
Autorun CD software, templates, and tutorials
http://www.soniacoleman.com/


lorry said:
PPT 2003, windows x[

Insert a video file - (smallish ~ 1mb).

When viewed (by coubleclicking) in normal view it plays normally

In the slideshow it is VERY jerky

I have my hardware acceleration down as movies were often becoming black
boxes

latest updates of windows, video card drivers (although happened with older
driver too....card is nvidia GeFOrce 4 MX420), computer is pentium 4
with
a
gig of RAM ie shouldnt be a processor problem

Any ideas

oh yes, the videos are mpeg and avi in standard codecs and run fne in
quicktime and mediaplayer and (mplayer via the run command)
 
L

lorry

After trying a few more moview, i note that most of the time the CPU sits
more at 40% then the 90 somehting percent i thought ws occurring all the
time.

The videos are pretty satandard
One for example is a 720 x 241 avi pixel uncompressed 1 16 bit movie that i
tell ppt to play again and again (each second is one heartbeat....so looping
looks like the heart beating)

others are mpgs - when i go to properties i dont get the same info as
above - rather a title subject aurthor categor box (all unfilled) movie
sizes are all less than 1 mb

why should going to show mode make such a difference to movie quality? I
thought ppt handed everything off to to the mplayer? ie if it plays in one
it should play the same in any view. Obviously not. RATS!

Any other ideas?

Lorry


Sonia said:
Thanks for the information. Number 3 tells us that running the movie in in
Show mode in PowerPoint is "pegging" the CPU, which explains to me why the
play is jerky. My guess is that something about the videos is causing
PowerPoint to work overtime decoding them. Where did they come from? Have
they been converted from other formats? Do you know the image size, sample
size, compression and frame rate? You should be able to right click on them
in Windows Explorer, select Properties, and click on the Summary tab.

lorry said:
Thanks for your rapid reply Sonia,

HArdware acceleration : doesnt matter - as long as its about half way down
then the movies play (ie not a black box), but if i go all the way to the
left, the video is no better or worse. HAve tried with write combing on and
off.

I have some screen shots of the task manager that i could send to you...in
summary however
1. ppt open no movie playing:
system idle 70%
ppt - 14%

2.: ppt open in normal view - one movie playing
system idle 50%
ppt -34%

3. ppt open in slideshow mode - movie playing
a: just watching it
system idle 1%
ppt - 98%

b: when snagging it
system idle 40%
ppt - 43%


Sigh

Lorry


Sonia said:
Given that you've addressed the normal things we would suggest, it sounds
like there is competition for resources on your system. However, how far
down have you set hardware acceleration? Try lowering it more if possible.

Is the presentation being played from your hard drive, or from a CD or other
removable media or from a network drive?

Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to bring up Task Manager. What other applications are
running? What is the CPU Usage %? Click on the Processes tab. Tap twice
on the CPU column to sort it by % in descending order. What are the most
active processes, other than System Idle?
--
Sonia, MS PowerPoint MVP Team
Autorun CD software, templates, and tutorials
http://www.soniacoleman.com/


PPT 2003, windows x[

Insert a video file - (smallish ~ 1mb).

When viewed (by coubleclicking) in normal view it plays normally

In the slideshow it is VERY jerky

I have my hardware acceleration down as movies were often becoming black
boxes

latest updates of windows, video card drivers (although happened with
older
driver too....card is nvidia GeFOrce 4 MX420), computer is pentium 4 with
a
gig of RAM ie shouldnt be a processor problem

Any ideas

oh yes, the videos are mpeg and avi in standard codecs and run fne in
quicktime and mediaplayer and (mplayer via the run command)
 
M

Mike M.

Just for giggles, try inserting a Windows Media Player object on a slide.
Right click it and in the properties set the url to the video file. Does it
play better?


lorry said:
After trying a few more moview, i note that most of the time the CPU sits
more at 40% then the 90 somehting percent i thought ws occurring all the
time.

The videos are pretty satandard
One for example is a 720 x 241 avi pixel uncompressed 1 16 bit movie that i
tell ppt to play again and again (each second is one heartbeat....so looping
looks like the heart beating)

others are mpgs - when i go to properties i dont get the same info as
above - rather a title subject aurthor categor box (all unfilled) movie
sizes are all less than 1 mb

why should going to show mode make such a difference to movie quality? I
thought ppt handed everything off to to the mplayer? ie if it plays in one
it should play the same in any view. Obviously not. RATS!

Any other ideas?

Lorry


Sonia said:
Thanks for the information. Number 3 tells us that running the movie in in
Show mode in PowerPoint is "pegging" the CPU, which explains to me why the
play is jerky. My guess is that something about the videos is causing
PowerPoint to work overtime decoding them. Where did they come from? Have
they been converted from other formats? Do you know the image size, sample
size, compression and frame rate? You should be able to right click on them
in Windows Explorer, select Properties, and click on the Summary tab.

lorry said:
Thanks for your rapid reply Sonia,

HArdware acceleration : doesnt matter - as long as its about half way down
then the movies play (ie not a black box), but if i go all the way to the
left, the video is no better or worse. HAve tried with write combing
on
and
off.

I have some screen shots of the task manager that i could send to you...in
summary however
1. ppt open no movie playing:
system idle 70%
ppt - 14%

2.: ppt open in normal view - one movie playing
system idle 50%
ppt -34%

3. ppt open in slideshow mode - movie playing
a: just watching it
system idle 1%
ppt - 98%

b: when snagging it
system idle 40%
ppt - 43%


Sigh

Lorry


Given that you've addressed the normal things we would suggest, it sounds
like there is competition for resources on your system. However,
how
far
down have you set hardware acceleration? Try lowering it more if
possible.

Is the presentation being played from your hard drive, or from a CD or
other
removable media or from a network drive?

Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to bring up Task Manager. What other
applications
are
running? What is the CPU Usage %? Click on the Processes tab. Tap twice
on the CPU column to sort it by % in descending order. What are the most
active processes, other than System Idle?
--
Sonia, MS PowerPoint MVP Team
Autorun CD software, templates, and tutorials
http://www.soniacoleman.com/


PPT 2003, windows x[

Insert a video file - (smallish ~ 1mb).

When viewed (by coubleclicking) in normal view it plays normally

In the slideshow it is VERY jerky

I have my hardware acceleration down as movies were often becoming black
boxes

latest updates of windows, video card drivers (although happened with
older
driver too....card is nvidia GeFOrce 4 MX420), computer is pentium 4
with
a
gig of RAM ie shouldnt be a processor problem

Any ideas

oh yes, the videos are mpeg and avi in standard codecs and run fne in
quicktime and mediaplayer and (mplayer via the run command)
 
L

lorry

Not exactly sure what i actually did but it plays normally when i insert it
like that.

What does it all mean?


Mike M. said:
Just for giggles, try inserting a Windows Media Player object on a slide.
Right click it and in the properties set the url to the video file. Does it
play better?


lorry said:
After trying a few more moview, i note that most of the time the CPU sits
more at 40% then the 90 somehting percent i thought ws occurring all the
time.

The videos are pretty satandard
One for example is a 720 x 241 avi pixel uncompressed 1 16 bit movie
that
i
tell ppt to play again and again (each second is one heartbeat....so looping
looks like the heart beating)

others are mpgs - when i go to properties i dont get the same info as
above - rather a title subject aurthor categor box (all unfilled) movie
sizes are all less than 1 mb

why should going to show mode make such a difference to movie quality? I
thought ppt handed everything off to to the mplayer? ie if it plays in one
it should play the same in any view. Obviously not. RATS!

Any other ideas?

Lorry


in
in on
them way
down to
the
combing
CD
or
other
removable media or from a network drive?

Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to bring up Task Manager. What other applications
are
running? What is the CPU Usage %? Click on the Processes tab. Tap
twice
on the CPU column to sort it by % in descending order. What are the
most
active processes, other than System Idle?
--
Sonia, MS PowerPoint MVP Team
Autorun CD software, templates, and tutorials
http://www.soniacoleman.com/


PPT 2003, windows x[

Insert a video file - (smallish ~ 1mb).

When viewed (by coubleclicking) in normal view it plays normally

In the slideshow it is VERY jerky

I have my hardware acceleration down as movies were often becoming
black
boxes

latest updates of windows, video card drivers (although happened with
older
driver too....card is nvidia GeFOrce 4 MX420), computer is
pentium
 
L

lorry

part two of response

I need th movie to loop - if i insert it like this, how do i get taht to
happen?
Also, if i transfer this presentation to a mc, will it work?

LD


Mike M. said:
Just for giggles, try inserting a Windows Media Player object on a slide.
Right click it and in the properties set the url to the video file. Does it
play better?


lorry said:
After trying a few more moview, i note that most of the time the CPU sits
more at 40% then the 90 somehting percent i thought ws occurring all the
time.

The videos are pretty satandard
One for example is a 720 x 241 avi pixel uncompressed 1 16 bit movie
that
i
tell ppt to play again and again (each second is one heartbeat....so looping
looks like the heart beating)

others are mpgs - when i go to properties i dont get the same info as
above - rather a title subject aurthor categor box (all unfilled) movie
sizes are all less than 1 mb

why should going to show mode make such a difference to movie quality? I
thought ppt handed everything off to to the mplayer? ie if it plays in one
it should play the same in any view. Obviously not. RATS!

Any other ideas?

Lorry


in
in on
them way
down to
the
combing
CD
or
other
removable media or from a network drive?

Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to bring up Task Manager. What other applications
are
running? What is the CPU Usage %? Click on the Processes tab. Tap
twice
on the CPU column to sort it by % in descending order. What are the
most
active processes, other than System Idle?
--
Sonia, MS PowerPoint MVP Team
Autorun CD software, templates, and tutorials
http://www.soniacoleman.com/


PPT 2003, windows x[

Insert a video file - (smallish ~ 1mb).

When viewed (by coubleclicking) in normal view it plays normally

In the slideshow it is VERY jerky

I have my hardware acceleration down as movies were often becoming
black
boxes

latest updates of windows, video card drivers (although happened with
older
driver too....card is nvidia GeFOrce 4 MX420), computer is
pentium
 
L

lorry

I thought i replied to this but the message hasnt appeard - apologies if
suddenly there are lots of replies.

THe video plays perfectly when i paly it as a media player object!

so
1. what does that tell anyone out there?
2. by linking the file so specifically it means i cnat move the presentation
to a different machine?
3. how do i make the movie loop - its a one second pic of one heartbeat - i
want it to loop continuously like a beating heart.

Thanks

Lorry
Mike M. said:
Just for giggles, try inserting a Windows Media Player object on a slide.
Right click it and in the properties set the url to the video file. Does it
play better?


lorry said:
After trying a few more moview, i note that most of the time the CPU sits
more at 40% then the 90 somehting percent i thought ws occurring all the
time.

The videos are pretty satandard
One for example is a 720 x 241 avi pixel uncompressed 1 16 bit movie
that
i
tell ppt to play again and again (each second is one heartbeat....so looping
looks like the heart beating)

others are mpgs - when i go to properties i dont get the same info as
above - rather a title subject aurthor categor box (all unfilled) movie
sizes are all less than 1 mb

why should going to show mode make such a difference to movie quality? I
thought ppt handed everything off to to the mplayer? ie if it plays in one
it should play the same in any view. Obviously not. RATS!

Any other ideas?

Lorry


in
in on
them way
down to
the
combing
CD
or
other
removable media or from a network drive?

Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to bring up Task Manager. What other applications
are
running? What is the CPU Usage %? Click on the Processes tab. Tap
twice
on the CPU column to sort it by % in descending order. What are the
most
active processes, other than System Idle?
--
Sonia, MS PowerPoint MVP Team
Autorun CD software, templates, and tutorials
http://www.soniacoleman.com/


PPT 2003, windows x[

Insert a video file - (smallish ~ 1mb).

When viewed (by coubleclicking) in normal view it plays normally

In the slideshow it is VERY jerky

I have my hardware acceleration down as movies were often becoming
black
boxes

latest updates of windows, video card drivers (although happened with
older
driver too....card is nvidia GeFOrce 4 MX420), computer is
pentium
 
M

Mike M.

lorry said:
I thought i replied to this but the message hasnt appeard - apologies if
suddenly there are lots of replies.

THe video plays perfectly when i paly it as a media player object!

so
1. what does that tell anyone out there?

o.k. I can splain some of this. PowerPoint use the MCI settings to play
"inserted" videos. This uses an older driver that is not as efficient as
Windows Media Player for rendering the video. By inserting a Windows Media
Player object you force PowerPoint to use WMP to render the video. However,
by doing that PowerPoint loses it's ability to know when the video is
finished so you lose some capabilities. Specifically I want my slide to
advance AFTER a video clip is finished. If I insert it this works fine
regardless of how long the slide advance is set to. When you insert a WMP
object, PowerPoint does not know when the video is done so it will advance
the slide based upon what you set. It is nearly impossible (and a pain) to
try to match the slide advance with the length of a video. So you can have
better video playback or more interaction with slide settings BUT NOT both.
I know the WMP object
2. by linking the file so specifically it means i cnat move the presentation
to a different machine?

I think if the movie is in the same folder as the presentation PRIO TO
setting it's path you might be able to move both to a different
folder/computer and it would work. You should try that.
3. how do i make the movie loop - its a one second pic of one heartbeat - i
want it to loop continuously like a beating heart.

Right click the WMP object and select properties. Then select the custom
property. You will see some playback settings. See if these work for you.
Thanks

Lorry
Mike M. said:
Just for giggles, try inserting a Windows Media Player object on a slide.
Right click it and in the properties set the url to the video file.
Does
it
play better?


that
movie
in
in
Show mode in PowerPoint is "pegging" the CPU, which explains to me
why
the
play is jerky. My guess is that something about the videos is causing
PowerPoint to work overtime decoding them. Where did they come from?
Have
they been converted from other formats? Do you know the image size,
sample
size, compression and frame rate? You should be able to right click on
them
in Windows Explorer, select Properties, and click on the Summary tab.

Thanks for your rapid reply Sonia,

HArdware acceleration : doesnt matter - as long as its about half way
down
then the movies play (ie not a black box), but if i go all the way to
the
left, the video is no better or worse. HAve tried with write
combing
on
and
off.

I have some screen shots of the task manager that i could send to
you...in
summary however
1. ppt open no movie playing:
system idle 70%
ppt - 14%

2.: ppt open in normal view - one movie playing
system idle 50%
ppt -34%

3. ppt open in slideshow mode - movie playing
a: just watching it
system idle 1%
ppt - 98%

b: when snagging it
system idle 40%
ppt - 43%


Sigh

Lorry


Given that you've addressed the normal things we would suggest, it
sounds
like there is competition for resources on your system.
However,
how
far
down have you set hardware acceleration? Try lowering it more if
possible.

Is the presentation being played from your hard drive, or from a
CD
or
other
removable media or from a network drive?

Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to bring up Task Manager. What other applications
are
running? What is the CPU Usage %? Click on the Processes tab. Tap
twice
on the CPU column to sort it by % in descending order. What are the
most
active processes, other than System Idle?
--
Sonia, MS PowerPoint MVP Team
Autorun CD software, templates, and tutorials
http://www.soniacoleman.com/


PPT 2003, windows x[

Insert a video file - (smallish ~ 1mb).

When viewed (by coubleclicking) in normal view it plays normally

In the slideshow it is VERY jerky

I have my hardware acceleration down as movies were often becoming
black
boxes

latest updates of windows, video card drivers (although happened
with
older
driver too....card is nvidia GeFOrce 4 MX420), computer is
pentium
4
with
a
gig of RAM ie shouldnt be a processor problem

Any ideas

oh yes, the videos are mpeg and avi in standard codecs and run fne
in
quicktime and mediaplayer and (mplayer via the run command)
 
D

Dembo

Not exactly sure how to do that Echo,

Could you give me some more detailed instructions if you have a moment?

What does this all mean though? Why wont the movies play in slideshow
mode...why oh why (lament)

On a separate note, I'm sure I remember you once writing in a newsgroup to
someone who was having an issue transferring ppt presentations from a mac
that they should turn off the quicktime compression - if it was you - I cant
find out how to do that and have had issues with talks written on a pc
transferred to a mac, edited a bit (and relinked - aaaargh). When I go back
to my pc with the talk, it tells me I need a different decompressor (but I
have quicktime pro on both machines....have read steve rindsbergs articles
to try and solve the problem myself but to no avail)


Win xp ppt 2003, mac OSX + ppt 2004


Thank you

Lorry
 
E

Echo S

Open Windows Media Player.
Tools/Options
On the Performance tab, move the video acceleration slider all the way to the left.

Someone posted within the past couple of weeks that this helped them be able to play their videos in PPT, even though, of course, the videos are not playing directly through Windows Media Player.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com
presenter, PPT Live '04
Oct 10-13, San Diego http://www.powerpointlive.com
 
E

Echo S

Dembo said:
On a separate note, I'm sure I remember you once writing in a newsgroup to
someone who was having an issue transferring ppt presentations from a mac
that they should turn off the quicktime compression - if it was you -

It probably was I.
I cant
find out how to do that and have had issues with talks written on a pc
transferred to a mac, edited a bit (and relinked - aaaargh). When I go back
to my pc with the talk, it tells me I need a different decompressor (but I
have quicktime pro on both machines....have read steve rindsbergs articles
to try and solve the problem myself but to no avail)

PPT on the PC doesn't play well with QuickTime. I'm not Mac-savvy, but IIRC, there's a setting somewhere on the Mac that tells it to use QT Compression on videos and images. (I know that at least at one time you could turn this off for images when saving a PPT presentation. Just can't remember how it was done exactly.) I'll ask the Mac MVPs about it.
Win xp ppt 2003, mac OSX + ppt 2004

Thanks for this info.
 

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