Off the wall question

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Glenda Garcia

I have a user who is blind. He uses a program called JAWS that describes the screen to him in great detail. He is registered to attend the Access I class tomorrow. I've been going through the book to try to find ways for him to perform actions using menus and keyboard combinations. I have hit a brick wall. I'm trying to create a query. How do I get my selected fields from the top pane to fill in the columns in the bottom pane to specify the query. Normally this is where I would double click on the field and it would fill in the bottom pane.

HELP!!!

Glenda
 
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Tony Toews

Glenda said:
never mind. I found it.

Would you please post your answer so that others can benefit.
Especially when searching groups.google.com.

Thanks, Tony
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Fred Boer

Dear Tony:

I am a teacher-librarian at a school for blind/visually impaired students.
We use JAWS and Zoomtext as screen readers. JAWS works with Access, however,
it isn't perfect... When using the query design grid, the JAWS user should
be aware that JAWS incorrectly indicates that the dropdown combobox (the one
listing available fields) on the design grid is an text edit box. The blind
user needs to be told it is a combobox so that the user can select a field.
Also, JAWS does not read the "Show" checkbox on the design grid.

Additionaly, there are problems with running JAWS and Wizards to set up
controls in design view...

I would be interested in communicating with anyone who is using Access and
JAWS, particularly those who are working with totally blind users, and blind
persons programming in Access VBA...

HTH
Fred Boer
 
F

Fred Boer

Dear Mr. Daugherty:

I am a teacher-librarian at a school for blind/visually impaired students. I
am curious about your interest in screen reading software and MS Access.
Are you designing for blind users? Do you use adaptive software?

Just a couple of comments:

If the noise of the screen reader is a problem, the JAWS user could simply
use a pair of headphones so that the screen reader doesn't disturb others.

The graphical nature of Windows and, of course, of MS Access, is a serious
barrier to the blind user. Text based programs *were* much easier to work
with, (good ol' dBase and Lotus 123 and WordPerfect 5.0...<g>) however,
modern screen readers are getting better all the time.

I am teaching (for the first time) a course in programming in Access VBA
with students with visual impairments (including blindness), and it is a
real learning experience for both teacher and students, let me tell you! :)
Also, I have created a school library program with an online catalogue for
use by students at my school. Making the user interface accessible is, of
course, essential, and has been of critical importance. Hot keys are
significant, as are a clean, simple interface, and meaningful captions...

I am always interested in communicating with anyone who is using Access and
JAWS, particularly those who are working with totally blind users, and blind
persons programming in Access VBA...

HTH
Fred Boer

[OT] P.S. A course in programming with MS Access presented to blind
students... a perfect way to *legitimately* get my daily Access fix, *and*
do my job at the same time! And, yes, I know, I know.... those who are aware
of my miniscule programming skills are thinking... "The blind leading the
blind..." <g>
 
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Tony Toews

Fred Boer said:
I would be interested in communicating with anyone who is using Access and
JAWS, particularly those who are working with totally blind users, and blind
persons programming in Access VBA...

Fred

If you like I'd be quite happy to put an Access and JAWS tips page on
my website. With you as the author.

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Please respond only in the newsgroups so that others can
read the entire thread of messages.
Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems at
http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
 
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Fred Boer

Dear Tony:

What a kind offer! That would be great! I will ask for suggestions and
comments from my students, and try to put together something useful. Once
I've done this, I'll contact you privately, show you what I've come up with,
and you can decide whether to add it to your website. Is that ok with you?

Many thanks!

Fred
 
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Tony Toews

What a kind offer! That would be great! I will ask for suggestions and
comments from my students, and try to put together something useful. Once
I've done this, I'll contact you privately, show you what I've come up with,
and you can decide whether to add it to your website. Is that ok with you?

No deciding about it. The URL is already reserved for you!

BTW it's better, IMNSHO, to have something available soon and then
polish things later. IOW rather than getting it perfect make it look
decent and get info up. And add things and polish it as you get to
it.

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Please respond only in the newsgroups so that others can
read the entire thread of messages.
Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems at
http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
 
F

Fred Boer

Dear Tony:

You'll get a mess soon! <g>

Fred

Tony Toews said:
you?

No deciding about it. The URL is already reserved for you!

BTW it's better, IMNSHO, to have something available soon and then
polish things later. IOW rather than getting it perfect make it look
decent and get info up. And add things and polish it as you get to
it.

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Please respond only in the newsgroups so that others can
read the entire thread of messages.
Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems at
http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
 
T

Tony Toews

Fred Boer said:
You'll get a mess soon! <g>

Ah, but it's your mess. Your name will be in a very large bolded font
at the top. <smile>

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Please respond only in the newsgroups so that others can
read the entire thread of messages.
Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems at
http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
 
T

Teresa Roman

Fred Boer said:
Dear Mr. Daugherty:

I am a teacher-librarian at a school for blind/visually impaired students. I
am curious about your interest in screen reading software and MS Access.
Are you designing for blind users? Do you use adaptive software?

Just a couple of comments:

If the noise of the screen reader is a problem, the JAWS user could simply
use a pair of headphones so that the screen reader doesn't disturb others.

The graphical nature of Windows and, of course, of MS Access, is a serious
barrier to the blind user. Text based programs *were* much easier to work
with, (good ol' dBase and Lotus 123 and WordPerfect 5.0...<g>) however,
modern screen readers are getting better all the time.

I am teaching (for the first time) a course in programming in Access VBA
with students with visual impairments (including blindness), and it is a
real learning experience for both teacher and students, let me tell you! :)
Also, I have created a school library program with an online catalogue for
use by students at my school. Making the user interface accessible is, of
course, essential, and has been of critical importance. Hot keys are
significant, as are a clean, simple interface, and meaningful captions...

I am always interested in communicating with anyone who is using Access and
JAWS, particularly those who are working with totally blind users, and blind
persons programming in Access VBA...

HTH
Fred Boer

[OT] P.S. A course in programming with MS Access presented to blind
students... a perfect way to *legitimately* get my daily Access fix, *and*
do my job at the same time! And, yes, I know, I know.... those who are aware
of my miniscule programming skills are thinking... "The blind leading the
blind..." <g>
 

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