D
Diane Ross
Details on the MacBU blog: http://www.officeformac.com/blog/
P
Phillip Jones, C.E.T.
Interesting. Glad they've decided to support through Jan 2012.
But sadly I t means that 2010 is Intel Only and and my take on the memo
is that 2010 will be ready to ship by Jan 2010 and I will be stuck. Also
I am uneasy about the prospect of going to X.6 they've discovered that
if you accidentally sign in on a Guest account and the try to go back to
administrator or named account. everything will be reset and your
pictures, documents a in document folder preference and the like will
be wiped clean. So until that bug it resolved I don't want to go to X.6.
But sadly I t means that 2010 is Intel Only and and my take on the memo
is that 2010 will be ready to ship by Jan 2010 and I will be stuck. Also
I am uneasy about the prospect of going to X.6 they've discovered that
if you accidentally sign in on a Guest account and the try to go back to
administrator or named account. everything will be reset and your
pictures, documents a in document folder preference and the like will
be wiped clean. So until that bug it resolved I don't want to go to X.6.
M
Michel Bintener
Hi Phillip,
by "2010 US holiday season", Mac BU means "December 2010". And keep in mind
that this is only an estimate; if there are any delays in the development
process, chances are high that it will be Office 2011 for Mac.
by "2010 US holiday season", Mac BU means "December 2010". And keep in mind
that this is only an estimate; if there are any delays in the development
process, chances are high that it will be Office 2011 for Mac.
J
John McGhie
Hi Phillip:
A coupla points: Yes, Office 2010 will be Intel-only. But I very much
doubt whether many PPC computers still out there would have enough power or
memory to run it well, so that's kinda a moot point.
I suspect that whoever you are reading has completely misunderstood the
concept of a "Guest" account (or they have not even read the Help).
Here it is, from the OS 10.6 Help:
" Creating a guest user account
If you want others to be able to temporarily use your computer, but you
don¹t want to create an account for each user, you can create a guest
account.
A guest user can log in to the computer without entering a password. Guest
users can¹t make changes to other user accounts or change setting on the
computer, and they can¹t log in remotely.
You can use parental controls to manage a guest account. For example, you
can limit the applications a guest user has access to, or filter Internet
content.
IMPORTANT: Files created by guest users are deleted when the user logs out.
A temporary home folder is created for the guest¹s files but this folder and
its contents are deleted when the user logs out."
So there you are: the files created BY THE GUEST are deleted when the guest
logs out, which is exactly what you would expect, and want, to happen with a
guest account. That's what they are for
None of the "real" files and settings on the "real" accounts are touched.
Trust me, it is not possible to log in to a Guest account "by mistake". It
cannot happen If you click the name on the screen that says "Guest",
you will go into a Guest account. Most computers will not have Guest
accounts enabled, so you will not even be offered the choice. The
Administrator of the computer must specifically add and enable the Guest
account function, or the choice will not appear. If you are offered the
choice, there is no way you could confuse it with your OWN account.
The great thing about the Internet is that any fool can use it. The great
problem with the Internet is that every fool DOES
Hope this helps
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A coupla points: Yes, Office 2010 will be Intel-only. But I very much
doubt whether many PPC computers still out there would have enough power or
memory to run it well, so that's kinda a moot point.
I suspect that whoever you are reading has completely misunderstood the
concept of a "Guest" account (or they have not even read the Help).
Here it is, from the OS 10.6 Help:
" Creating a guest user account
If you want others to be able to temporarily use your computer, but you
don¹t want to create an account for each user, you can create a guest
account.
A guest user can log in to the computer without entering a password. Guest
users can¹t make changes to other user accounts or change setting on the
computer, and they can¹t log in remotely.
You can use parental controls to manage a guest account. For example, you
can limit the applications a guest user has access to, or filter Internet
content.
IMPORTANT: Files created by guest users are deleted when the user logs out.
A temporary home folder is created for the guest¹s files but this folder and
its contents are deleted when the user logs out."
So there you are: the files created BY THE GUEST are deleted when the guest
logs out, which is exactly what you would expect, and want, to happen with a
guest account. That's what they are for
None of the "real" files and settings on the "real" accounts are touched.
Trust me, it is not possible to log in to a Guest account "by mistake". It
cannot happen
If you click the name on the screen that says "Guest",you will go into a Guest account. Most computers will not have Guest
accounts enabled, so you will not even be offered the choice. The
Administrator of the computer must specifically add and enable the Guest
account function, or the choice will not appear. If you are offered the
choice, there is no way you could confuse it with your OWN account.
The great thing about the Internet is that any fool can use it. The great
problem with the Internet is that every fool DOES
Hope this helps
This email is my business email -- Please do not email me about forum
matters unless you intend to pay!
--
John McGhie, Microsoft MVP (Word, Mac Word), Consultant Technical Writer,
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. | Ph: +61 (0)4 1209 1410
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]
J
John McGhie
{Blush} Phillip is right, I was wrong! (Not for the first time...)
Apple has now acknowledged that they have a bug, and are apparently working
on a fix.
Further research indicates that it affects systems where the the Guest
account has been enabled BEFORE upgrade to Snow Leopard. Apple describes it
as "extremely rare", meaning there have been about 100 reports from several
million upgrades.
CNET has a good article on how to recover here:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-10356505-263.html?tag=mncol;txt
Sorry about that, Phillip: I should have done a bit more research
Cheers
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Apple has now acknowledged that they have a bug, and are apparently working
on a fix.
Further research indicates that it affects systems where the the Guest
account has been enabled BEFORE upgrade to Snow Leopard. Apple describes it
as "extremely rare", meaning there have been about 100 reports from several
million upgrades.
CNET has a good article on how to recover here:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-10356505-263.html?tag=mncol;txt
Sorry about that, Phillip: I should have done a bit more research
Cheers
Hi Phillip:
A coupla points: Yes, Office 2010 will be Intel-only. But I very much
doubt whether many PPC computers still out there would have enough power or
memory to run it well, so that's kinda a moot point.
I suspect that whoever you are reading has completely misunderstood the
concept of a "Guest" account (or they have not even read the Help).
Here it is, from the OS 10.6 Help:
" Creating a guest user account
If you want others to be able to temporarily use your computer, but you
don¹t want to create an account for each user, you can create a guest
account.
A guest user can log in to the computer without entering a password. Guest
users can¹t make changes to other user accounts or change setting on the
computer, and they can¹t log in remotely.
You can use parental controls to manage a guest account. For example, you
can limit the applications a guest user has access to, or filter Internet
content.
IMPORTANT: Files created by guest users are deleted when the user logs out.
A temporary home folder is created for the guest¹s files but this folder and
its contents are deleted when the user logs out."
So there you are: the files created BY THE GUEST are deleted when the guest
logs out, which is exactly what you would expect, and want, to happen with a
guest account. That's what they are for
None of the "real" files and settings on the "real" accounts are touched.
Trust me, it is not possible to log in to a Guest account "by mistake". It
cannot happen
you will go into a Guest account. Most computers will not have Guest
accounts enabled, so you will not even be offered the choice. The
Administrator of the computer must specifically add and enable the Guest
account function, or the choice will not appear. If you are offered the
choice, there is no way you could confuse it with your OWN account.
The great thing about the Internet is that any fool can use it. The great
problem with the Internet is that every fool DOES
Hope this helps
This email is my business email -- Please do not email me about forum
matters unless you intend to pay!
--
John McGhie, Microsoft MVP (Word, Mac Word), Consultant Technical Writer,
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. | Ph: +61 (0)4 1209 1410
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]
This email is my business email -- Please do not email me about forum
matters unless you intend to pay!
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John McGhie, Microsoft MVP (Word, Mac Word), Consultant Technical Writer,
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. | Ph: +61 (0)4 1209 1410
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]
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Phillip Jones, C.E.T.
The part about the PPC/Intel issue is not important. I now have time to
get at least a Laptop, maybe.
The part about the files being wiped out has been reported both on the
apple support and on cNET/ZDnet/ComputerWorld Yesterday. It wasn't that
it was done accidentally. it was setting up a Guest account the
reverting back to what either named account or administrator it wiped
everything clean.
And maybe by the time I can get one The defect will be fixed.
get at least a Laptop, maybe.
The part about the files being wiped out has been reported both on the
apple support and on cNET/ZDnet/ComputerWorld Yesterday. It wasn't that
it was done accidentally. it was setting up a Guest account the
reverting back to what either named account or administrator it wiped
everything clean.
And maybe by the time I can get one The defect will be fixed.
P
Phillip Jones, C.E.T.
Reports on ZDNet and cNET and Computerworld Indicates it more than just
rare. And a whole lot on Versiontracker.
Don't be embarrassed I screw up all the time ;-)
rare. And a whole lot on Versiontracker.
Don't be embarrassed I screw up all the time ;-)
P
Phillip Jones, C.E.T.
Here is an Updated Link. evidently its in X.5 as well but Apple ignored
it saying they never heard of such a thing.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=5006&tag=nl.e550
it saying they never heard of such a thing.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=5006&tag=nl.e550
J
John McGhie
Oh yes, it has been around for a while. Yes, there are "lots" of reports.
But I suspect the number of people who have actually suffered the bug is
very low.
Very few users would have upgraded an OS with Guest accounts left enabled.
Very few users would even enable Guest accounts in the first place!
However: Bug it is, and apparently the fix will be in the next update.
Cheers
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Sydney, Australia. | Ph: +61 (0)4 1209 1410
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]
But I suspect the number of people who have actually suffered the bug is
very low.
Very few users would have upgraded an OS with Guest accounts left enabled.
Very few users would even enable Guest accounts in the first place!
However: Bug it is, and apparently the fix will be in the next update.
Cheers
This email is my business email -- Please do not email me about forum
matters unless you intend to pay!
--
John McGhie, Microsoft MVP (Word, Mac Word), Consultant Technical Writer,
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. | Ph: +61 (0)4 1209 1410
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]