Office 2007 classic menus

L

LVTravel

Rod said:
Is it possible to have classic menus in Office 2007 i.e. revert to XP like
menus?

Not from within Office '07. There are third party add-ons that can be
purchased to accomplish this. Search using Google.
 
S

samatit

Hello Rod,
You can also use official Microsoft's response on the matter at "Office
Online" website
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/marketplace/EM102220661033.aspx?pid=CE102412891033
The link directs you to an external website which provides the software that
can change it to classic manus.

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Shailesh Shah

Besides until you and everyone familiar with new ribbon UI, use free addins
to use old classic menu of office-2003 in Office-2007, from below page.

http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/menuaddins

and if you still find difficult to search command in the Ribbon (Word, Excel
and PowerPoint) , there is a nice addon "Search Commands" by Microsoft
Office Labs, you can download from below site.

http://www.officelabs.com/Pages/Default.aspx


Regards,
Shailesh Shah
http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/
If You Can't Excel with Talent, Triumph with Effort.

Free Addins Office Menu-2003 for Office-2007
http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/menuaddins


Use Free Accounting Software "Busywin UL 3.5 "as per Principle of Book
Keeping having vat
enabled invoice printing and vat computation with inventory tracking by Busy
Infotech from below page.
http://www.busy.in/index.php?p=fas
 
J

JoAnn Paules

If they use the add-ins, they will never get accustomed to the ribbon
interface.
 
B

BrianB

(This is an old argument, but I'll post it again on the off chance that MS
is listening.)

I support a set of power Office users that have customized their 2003 tool
bars to the extreme to display all the button that they use all the time.
This minimizes the amount of time spent opening the necessary menu or
toolbar and then selecting the desired function. They tried using Office
2007 for a little over three months. They tried adding their desired buttons
to the Quick Access Toolbar, but it could not hold enough buttons. Once they
got used to the new locations of the functions on the ribbon, they became
frustrated on how much more time they spent looking at the ribbon to see
which menu was active, selecting the menu that contains the function, and
then selecting the desired function. We figure that there was about a 5%
loss in productivity! We didn't think that more time would improve the
situation. The few users that like command shortcuts were happy that they
still worked, but they couldn't remember all the shortcuts that they needed
and not all the functions have a shortcut. Eventually we downgraded back to
Office 2003 and plan to either stay there permanently or switch to a more
power user friendly product (if any such exists).

Those that use Publisher were happy that 2007 did not transition to the
ribbon. They are annoyed with the reports that the next version of Publisher
has the ribbon.

Our opinion is that the ribbon is a neat idea that looks cool, is useful for
new users and users that do not use Office all day every day. But for power
users the ribbon makes it more difficult to use. We feel that it would have
been a good transition step to provide both the ribbon and the traditional
drop down menus to ease the learning curve. MS should have also provided the
option for the user to build and customize their own ribbon menu that would
contain whatever buttons that they desire.

Thank you for allowing me to be a bit grumpy and make another attempt to
help MS think about the usability for power users.

Brian Bygland

JoAnn Paules said:
If they use the add-ins, they will never get accustomed to the ribbon
interface.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"


Shailesh Shah said:
Besides until you and everyone familiar with new ribbon UI, use free
addins
to use old classic menu of office-2003 in Office-2007, from below page.

http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/menuaddins

and if you still find difficult to search command in the Ribbon (Word,
Excel
and PowerPoint) , there is a nice addon "Search Commands" by Microsoft
Office Labs, you can download from below site.

http://www.officelabs.com/Pages/Default.aspx


Regards,
Shailesh Shah
http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/
If You Can't Excel with Talent, Triumph with Effort.

Free Addins Office Menu-2003 for Office-2007
http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/menuaddins


Use Free Accounting Software "Busywin UL 3.5 "as per Principle of Book
Keeping having vat
enabled invoice printing and vat computation with inventory tracking by
Busy Infotech from below page.
http://www.busy.in/index.php?p=fas
 
G

Gordon

BrianB said:
(This is an old argument, but I'll post it again on the off chance that MS
is listening.)

I support a set of power Office users that have customized their 2003 tool
bars to the extreme to display all the button that they use all the time.


I would make two comments about that. Firstly as a "Power" office use since
Office 95, I have NEVER needed to customise any toolbar and secondly, as
their support person don't you find it a NIGHTMARE to support when
everyone's setup is different?
 
B

BrianB

Gordon said:
I would make two comments about that. Firstly as a "Power" office use
since Office 95, I have NEVER needed to customise any toolbar and
secondly, as their support person don't you find it a NIGHTMARE to support
when everyone's setup is different?
OK, maybe I exaggerated a little. What I meant was that they have almost
every toolbar turned on all the time. This takes up screen space, but they
do not have to go hunting between ribbon menus to find the functions. (And
they do make a few changes to the toolbars to remove functions they never
use.) As far as supporting their customizations goes, I just insist that
they print a screen shot whenever they make changes so that when I have to
reload their box they can redo the customizations. Doesn't cause me much any
problem.

Brian
 
J

JoAnn Paules

Not all Publisher users are happy it didn't change. I wish it did have the
ribbon and will be pleased when it finally does.
 
A

aussiebarb

While there is a lot that I like about the look and feel of Word 2007, I am
surprised that the developers have dismantled the toolbar facility of Word
2003 and made it so difficult to customise commands for all sorts of tasks.
The Quick Access toolbar cannot contain all the special macros and commands
that I constantly use, and is rigidly confined to just two locations on the
screen.

I'm even more surprised that the Ribbon system is so labour intensive, with
many clicks being required to get to the desired command.

I, like Brian's team, have customised my toolbars in Word 2003 so that they
are readily available - anywhere on the page - and only the slightest hand
movement and a quick click achieves my aims. I am very frustrated at not
being able to do this vertically, horizontally, at the top of the page or the
bottom or in the middle of the page if I desire as I do a lot of complicated
formatting in Word for clients who use it as their primary wordprocessing
tool and need to maintain Word versions of their work; and are unfamiliar
with layout programs such as those produced by Adobe Systems, and in a hurry
to get work done to deadlines.

The Ribbons cater for inexperienced users of Word and try to make many
functions automatic, and it is very difficult to get around their pernicious
interference. I would really like to see the toolbar function restored and
the ease of drag and drop customisation of buttons. Word 2007 seems very
labour intensive, with too much movement from tab to tab, and too much need
for selecting and clicking, as I have suggested, and just the reinstatement
of toolbars and easy customisation would greatly increase its usability and
efficiency for experienced users.

I am surprised that in some of the posts I have seen, while the developers
at Microsoft have answered, they seem very defenisvie resistant to this idea
and even offended that a return to toolbars should be suggested. This is very
disappointing, and I urge them to change their minds and respond to the
requests from their loyal users. They might also consider rewriting the style
program so that it stops picking up every change one makes to the text on the
page. That remains a nuisance that could have beneficially been fixed for
Word 2007.

Regards from Australia.



JoAnn Paules said:
Not all Publisher users are happy it didn't change. I wish it did have the
ribbon and will be pleased when it finally does.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



BrianB said:
Those that use Publisher were happy that 2007 did not transition to the
ribbon. They are annoyed with the reports that the next version of
Publisher has the ribbon.
 
G

Gordon

aussiebarb said:
While there is a lot that I like about the look and feel of Word 2007, I
am
surprised that the developers have dismantled the toolbar facility of Word
2003 and made it so difficult to customise commands for all sorts of
tasks.
The Quick Access toolbar cannot contain all the special macros and
commands
that I constantly use, and is rigidly confined to just two locations on
the
screen.


Two reasons - firstly the immense complexity and depth that the 2003
toolbars had reached - see here for why the ribbon was developed in that
scenario:
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archive/2008/03/12/the-story-of-the-ribbon.aspx

Secondly, most Office seats are to be found in corporate environments, and
the ability to customise to the nth degree is a complete NIGHTMARE for the
support techies....
 
G

GuyWB

I for one will probably never get "accustomed" to the ribbon interface. I
have been in the IT field for 20+ years at various levels. My organization
just started rolling out Office 2007 about two months ago, so I have had
this...thing for about three months. It has proven to be one of the most
frustrating pieces of garbage I have ever had the misfortune of using. If it
were up to me, we would stay with Office 2003 simply based on the horrific
mess that Microsoft has made of the interface. And to add insult to injury,
the flat-out arrogance of the "This is the way Microsoft wants it, if you
lowly customers don't like it, tough" attitude is just infuriating. Sorry
about the rant, but I am pretty much at my limit with fighting with this
abomination while trying to do the simplest of tasks. Maybe Microsoft should
try something "innovative" and ask it's customers what they want instead of
some designers with no clue as to how to write a FUNCTIONAL interface.


JoAnn Paules said:
If they use the add-ins, they will never get accustomed to the ribbon
interface.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"


Shailesh Shah said:
Besides until you and everyone familiar with new ribbon UI, use free
addins
to use old classic menu of office-2003 in Office-2007, from below page.

http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/menuaddins

and if you still find difficult to search command in the Ribbon (Word,
Excel
and PowerPoint) , there is a nice addon "Search Commands" by Microsoft
Office Labs, you can download from below site.

http://www.officelabs.com/Pages/Default.aspx


Regards,
Shailesh Shah
http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/
If You Can't Excel with Talent, Triumph with Effort.

Free Addins Office Menu-2003 for Office-2007
http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/menuaddins


Use Free Accounting Software "Busywin UL 3.5 "as per Principle of Book
Keeping having vat
enabled invoice printing and vat computation with inventory tracking by
Busy Infotech from below page.
http://www.busy.in/index.php?p=fas
 
G

GuyWB

And what if you have nothing but contempt for the Ribbons?

JoAnn Paules said:
If they use the add-ins, they will never get accustomed to the ribbon
interface.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"


Shailesh Shah said:
Besides until you and everyone familiar with new ribbon UI, use free
addins
to use old classic menu of office-2003 in Office-2007, from below page.

http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/menuaddins

and if you still find difficult to search command in the Ribbon (Word,
Excel
and PowerPoint) , there is a nice addon "Search Commands" by Microsoft
Office Labs, you can download from below site.

http://www.officelabs.com/Pages/Default.aspx


Regards,
Shailesh Shah
http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/
If You Can't Excel with Talent, Triumph with Effort.

Free Addins Office Menu-2003 for Office-2007
http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/menuaddins


Use Free Accounting Software "Busywin UL 3.5 "as per Principle of Book
Keeping having vat
enabled invoice printing and vat computation with inventory tracking by
Busy Infotech from below page.
http://www.busy.in/index.php?p=fas
 
G

Gordon

GuyWB said:
I for one will probably never get "accustomed" to the ribbon interface. I
have been in the IT field for 20+ years at various levels. My
organization
just started rolling out Office 2007 about two months ago, so I have had
this...thing for about three months. It has proven to be one of the most
frustrating pieces of garbage I have ever had the misfortune of using. If
it
were up to me, we would stay with Office 2003 simply based on the horrific
mess that Microsoft has made of the interface. And to add insult to
injury,
the flat-out arrogance of the "This is the way Microsoft wants it, if you
lowly customers don't like it, tough" attitude is just infuriating. Sorry
about the rant, but I am pretty much at my limit with fighting with this
abomination while trying to do the simplest of tasks. Maybe Microsoft
should
try something "innovative" and ask it's customers what they want instead
of
some designers with no clue as to how to write a FUNCTIONAL interface.


Interesting. I too have been in "IT" as an Advanced User of Lotus, MS
Office, WordPerfect and many other applications also for over 20 years.
I find the Ribbon GREAT once you get used to it. If your application skills
after twenty years preclude you from rapidly learning the ribbon, then may I
respectfully suggest you are in the wrong job?
 
G

GuyWB

I have tried using the Ribbons, it is nothing but an exercise in frustration.
I want the menus back.

JoAnn Paules said:
If they use the add-ins, they will never get accustomed to the ribbon
interface.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"


Shailesh Shah said:
Besides until you and everyone familiar with new ribbon UI, use free
addins
to use old classic menu of office-2003 in Office-2007, from below page.

http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/menuaddins

and if you still find difficult to search command in the Ribbon (Word,
Excel
and PowerPoint) , there is a nice addon "Search Commands" by Microsoft
Office Labs, you can download from below site.

http://www.officelabs.com/Pages/Default.aspx


Regards,
Shailesh Shah
http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/
If You Can't Excel with Talent, Triumph with Effort.

Free Addins Office Menu-2003 for Office-2007
http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/menuaddins


Use Free Accounting Software "Busywin UL 3.5 "as per Principle of Book
Keeping having vat
enabled invoice printing and vat computation with inventory tracking by
Busy Infotech from below page.
http://www.busy.in/index.php?p=fas
 
G

Gordon

GuyWB said:
I have tried using the Ribbons, it is nothing but an exercise in
frustration.


For how long? You do realise that you can put all your frequently-used
commands on the QAT?
 
G

GuyWB

Wrong attitude. If the PAYING CUSTOMER does not want the ribbon interface,
only a company with EXTREME ARROGANCE would have the attitude of "Tough, that
is what WE want, you insignificant customers will just have to shut up and
like it". If the customers are complaining about the ribbon interface (like
95% of them at my organization), maybe Microsoft should get off its high
horse and listen. Or, they can just continue to lose market share/customers.

JoAnn Paules said:
If they use the add-ins, they will never get accustomed to the ribbon
interface.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"


Shailesh Shah said:
Besides until you and everyone familiar with new ribbon UI, use free
addins
to use old classic menu of office-2003 in Office-2007, from below page.

http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/menuaddins

and if you still find difficult to search command in the Ribbon (Word,
Excel
and PowerPoint) , there is a nice addon "Search Commands" by Microsoft
Office Labs, you can download from below site.

http://www.officelabs.com/Pages/Default.aspx


Regards,
Shailesh Shah
http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/
If You Can't Excel with Talent, Triumph with Effort.

Free Addins Office Menu-2003 for Office-2007
http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/menuaddins


Use Free Accounting Software "Busywin UL 3.5 "as per Principle of Book
Keeping having vat
enabled invoice printing and vat computation with inventory tracking by
Busy Infotech from below page.
http://www.busy.in/index.php?p=fas
 
G

GuyWB

I take it that with that ignorant attitude that you have never been in user
support. Try actually supporting the end users, maybe then you will
understand.
 
J

JoAnn Paules

I'm not a company. I am an employee for a company that is planning to roll
out Office 2007 soon. So let's say I'm using 2007 at home with an add-in and
now I'm going to be forced to make a living with the standard interface.
(Perhaps not forced - unless I insist on continuing working there and want a
paycheck. ) IT doesn't allow any software, etc to be installed and they sure
won't buy me an add-in so now what?

Fortunately for me, I've been using the ribbon for two years at home and I'm
somewhat accustomed to it. I've even volunteered to be an early adopter so
they can see what kind of issues may arise with some of the web apps we use.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"


GuyWB said:
Wrong attitude. If the PAYING CUSTOMER does not want the ribbon
interface,
only a company with EXTREME ARROGANCE would have the attitude of "Tough,
that
is what WE want, you insignificant customers will just have to shut up and
like it". If the customers are complaining about the ribbon interface
(like
95% of them at my organization), maybe Microsoft should get off its high
horse and listen. Or, they can just continue to lose market
share/customers.

JoAnn Paules said:
If they use the add-ins, they will never get accustomed to the ribbon
interface.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"


Shailesh Shah said:
Besides until you and everyone familiar with new ribbon UI, use free
addins
to use old classic menu of office-2003 in Office-2007, from below page.

http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/menuaddins

and if you still find difficult to search command in the Ribbon (Word,
Excel
and PowerPoint) , there is a nice addon "Search Commands" by Microsoft
Office Labs, you can download from below site.

http://www.officelabs.com/Pages/Default.aspx


Regards,
Shailesh Shah
http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/
If You Can't Excel with Talent, Triumph with Effort.

Free Addins Office Menu-2003 for Office-2007
http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/menuaddins


Use Free Accounting Software "Busywin UL 3.5 "as per Principle of Book
Keeping having vat
enabled invoice printing and vat computation with inventory tracking by
Busy Infotech from below page.
http://www.busy.in/index.php?p=fas



Is it possible to have classic menus in Office 2007 i.e. revert to XP
like menus?
 

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