Office 2007 Ribbons

R

RickB

With all due respect to the new Office 2007 "Ribbon" menues, is there a way
to show "classic" toolbars like Office 2003? I just spent 2 hours looking in
PowerPoint 2007 for a feature I used several times a day in 2003. I
understand the Ribbons to be for the 80% people. Problem is, I'm one of the
20%.

thanks,
RickB
 
B

Bob Buckland ?:-\)

Hi Rick,

There isn't a classic view of the Office 2007 structure. The prior version shortcut keys generally work and you may want to start
off by adding the Powerpoint 'Getting Started' Ribbon tab which gives you some quick cutovers to the 'where is it' type of stuff :)
http://microsoft.com/downloads/deta...e9-fc50-4074-96d3-d02fd98cb041&DisplayLang=en

Once you've got the hang of it, you can easily drop the addin.

There are similar ones for Word 2007 and Excel 2007 available from
http://microsoft.com/downloads in the Office section.

(Note that the same information is available through the Help menu in the new Office 2007 apps, and from the 'Help and How to' tab
of
http://office.microsoft.com
==============
With all due respect to the new Office 2007 "Ribbon" menues, is there a way
to show "classic" toolbars like Office 2003? I just spent 2 hours looking in
PowerPoint 2007 for a feature I used several times a day in 2003. I
understand the Ribbons to be for the 80% people. Problem is, I'm one of the
20%.

thanks,
RickB>>
--

Bob Buckland ?:)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
 
P

Patrick Schmid [MVP]

If customizing the Ribbon would help you, then you should look into
RibbonX (http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribbonx) or my RibbonCustomizer
add-in linked below.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
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***
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RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
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A

Arun

Hey rick, even I had the same problems when I started with Office 2007. But
the COMMAND REFERENCE GUIDE helped to get used to the office 2007 menu and
ribbon. It was a matter of 2 weeks.

This is a good tool which displays the office 2003 window. You can select
the options you wanted from the 2003 menu and this will show you how to
access that feature in 2007. For this go to help (you have to be connected to
office online) and then key in Command reference guide or interactive and
click on start the guide when you get it. I can say if you want to get used
to office 2007 this is your best friend. AND I would not recommend any addins
for the same
 
R

RickB

Thanks everybody. I will look at each suggested solution to see which works
best for me.

Thanks,
Rick
 
J

Jeff R

I know I'm on here a year after you posted, but I HATE Word 2007. I hate that
the ribbons aren't customizable or that I have to do serious work-arounds or
buy some sort of 3rd party product to change them. If I want decent-sized
screen buttons (such as n the ribbons), then my screen is littered with all
sorts of commands that I don't want, never use, or use exceedingly rarely,
while the cammands that I use all the time are buried or I have to put them
on the Quick bar -- so that they are not with ribbon commands with which I
would normally group them. For example, I frequently use Character Scaling,
which i normally set next to the other text editing commands (like Bold,
Italics, etc.). But I can't do that because I can't modify the useless
ribbon. So my option is to make my own tiny Quick menu and always minimize
the ribbons. Stupid stupid stupid. I like that Microsoft in their tutorial
for Word 2007 waste my time by pointing out that I am free to choose between
3 color schemes for my Word windows.
The bottom line is that I have this new super-charged product, and mainly I
have to waste time finding work-arounds because it can't do what the older
version did. I really really hate having to waste time because the design
team didn't consider the way I use a computer.
Jeff R -- Winter Haven, FL
 
M

Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

And I wonder why people purchase Office 2007 after reading all about the "horrid" ribbon and then come here to complain loudly, rather than use the version that works for them? I should know better by now, I guess.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Jeff R asked:

| I know I'm on here a year after you posted, but I HATE Word 2007. I
| hate that the ribbons aren't customizable or that I have to do
| serious work-arounds or buy some sort of 3rd party product to change
| them. If I want decent-sized screen buttons (such as n the ribbons),
| then my screen is littered with all sorts of commands that I don't
| want, never use, or use exceedingly rarely, while the cammands that I
| use all the time are buried or I have to put them on the Quick bar --
| so that they are not with ribbon commands with which I would normally
| group them. For example, I frequently use Character Scaling, which i
| normally set next to the other text editing commands (like Bold,
| Italics, etc.). But I can't do that because I can't modify the
| useless ribbon. So my option is to make my own tiny Quick menu and
| always minimize the ribbons. Stupid stupid stupid. I like that
| Microsoft in their tutorial for Word 2007 waste my time by pointing
| out that I am free to choose between 3 color schemes for my Word
| windows.
| The bottom line is that I have this new super-charged product, and
| mainly I have to waste time finding work-arounds because it can't do
| what the older version did. I really really hate having to waste time
| because the design team didn't consider the way I use a computer.
| Jeff R -- Winter Haven, FL
|
| "RickB" wrote:
|
|| With all due respect to the new Office 2007 "Ribbon" menues, is
|| there a way to show "classic" toolbars like Office 2003? I just
|| spent 2 hours looking in PowerPoint 2007 for a feature I used
|| several times a day in 2003. I understand the Ribbons to be for the
|| 80% people. Problem is, I'm one of the 20%.
||
|| thanks,
|| RickB
 
J

Jeff R

Why did i buy Word 2007? Good question. I bought it because i thought
Microsoft would not throw out user control but would increase it. I thought
the newer updated product would be essentially similar to previous products
with some improvements. I bought it because i had a computer crash and had to
move quickly before i could do any real research. And as another nonhelpful
reply observed, I guess that makes me a fool. Thank you Microsoft for making
me feel like a fool for buying your product. I've owned computers for a few
decades now, so i should know better than to assume that an upgrade or a new
version is actually an improvement. Fool me twice, shame on me...
Jeff R

Milly Staples said:
And I wonder why people purchase Office 2007 after reading all about the "horrid" ribbon and then come here to complain loudly, rather than use the version that works for them? I should know better by now, I guess.

--Â
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Jeff R asked:

| I know I'm on here a year after you posted, but I HATE Word 2007. I
| hate that the ribbons aren't customizable or that I have to do
| serious work-arounds or buy some sort of 3rd party product to change
| them. If I want decent-sized screen buttons (such as n the ribbons),
| then my screen is littered with all sorts of commands that I don't
| want, never use, or use exceedingly rarely, while the cammands that I
| use all the time are buried or I have to put them on the Quick bar --
| so that they are not with ribbon commands with which I would normally
| group them. For example, I frequently use Character Scaling, which i
| normally set next to the other text editing commands (like Bold,
| Italics, etc.). But I can't do that because I can't modify the
| useless ribbon. So my option is to make my own tiny Quick menu and
| always minimize the ribbons. Stupid stupid stupid. I like that
| Microsoft in their tutorial for Word 2007 waste my time by pointing
| out that I am free to choose between 3 color schemes for my Word
| windows.
| The bottom line is that I have this new super-charged product, and
| mainly I have to waste time finding work-arounds because it can't do
| what the older version did. I really really hate having to waste time
| because the design team didn't consider the way I use a computer.
| Jeff R -- Winter Haven, FL
|
| "RickB" wrote:
|
|| With all due respect to the new Office 2007 "Ribbon" menues, is
|| there a way to show "classic" toolbars like Office 2003? I just
|| spent 2 hours looking in PowerPoint 2007 for a feature I used
|| several times a day in 2003. I understand the Ribbons to be for the
|| 80% people. Problem is, I'm one of the 20%.
||
|| thanks,
|| RickB
 
G

Gordon

Jeff R said:
Why did i buy Word 2007? Good question. I bought it because i thought
Microsoft would not throw out user control but would increase it.

So why not use the TRIAL version first?
 
J

Jeff R

Yep, hindsight is 20/20. I have a small business. My computer crashed. I
needed something NOW. No one's fault that I was taken by surprise and needed
to be up and running in minimum amount of time. My own fault for trusting
Microsoft. Never again.
Jeff R
 
B

Bob Buckland ?:-\)

Hi Jeff,

If it's a retail Office 2007 product you may may want to check the link below to see if you may be able to get a refund on Office
2007 from Microsoft
http://microsoft.com/mscorp/productrefund/refund.mspx

=================
Yep, hindsight is 20/20. I have a small business. My computer crashed. I
needed something NOW. No one's fault that I was taken by surprise and needed
to be up and running in minimum amount of time. My own fault for trusting
Microsoft. Never again.
Jeff R >>
--

Bob Buckland ?:)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
 
K

Kevin

"Required to use MS products at work"

That sums up the problem - I HAVE to use Office at work. Fortunately, our IT
department is holding off on upgrading to Office 2007 (as well as Vista and
especially any post-2003 server products).

There are probably millions of people working at jobs where Office is
installed and required to be used by their employer. I use WordPerfect at
home, a 10-yr-old version which is still better than any version of Word I've
ever had to use - nothing beats the convenience of revealing codes and
dragging that pesky font or formatting change button out of your document to
fix it.

Most people do pretty basic stuff with Word or Excel and the 97 version will
handle anything they require. That doesn't do much for Microsoft's sales, and
they've found that tossing in new features doesn't help sales very much, so
they are trying a new interface to boost their profit margins.

Unfortunately for Microsoft, the average office worker doesn't want to waste
their time learning a new interface to do the same old documents they've been
doing for years, nor do their managers want to waste time and money on
training for new interfaces. Microsoft would have fared better if they had
tossed in an emoticon menu for e-mail editing and a dozen "wacky new fonts"
for next-gen users.

The bottom line is: "I didn't purchase it, my unsuspecting employer did!"

Kevin

note - I work in an IT department and our boss did buy a few copies for IT
to test and play with. The final verdict, not going to deploy it until
service pack 3, IFF Microsoft sees the light and adds an option for classic
menus. If we have to learn something new to stay current, might as well make
it Open Office and save the company some cash.

Milly Staples said:
And I wonder why people purchase Office 2007 after reading all about the "horrid" ribbon and then come here to complain loudly, rather than use the version that works for them? I should know better by now, I guess.

--Â
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Jeff R asked:

| I know I'm on here a year after you posted, but I HATE Word 2007. I
| hate that the ribbons aren't customizable or that I have to do
| serious work-arounds or buy some sort of 3rd party product to change
| them. If I want decent-sized screen buttons (such as n the ribbons),
| then my screen is littered with all sorts of commands that I don't
| want, never use, or use exceedingly rarely, while the cammands that I
| use all the time are buried or I have to put them on the Quick bar --
| so that they are not with ribbon commands with which I would normally
| group them. For example, I frequently use Character Scaling, which i
| normally set next to the other text editing commands (like Bold,
| Italics, etc.). But I can't do that because I can't modify the
| useless ribbon. So my option is to make my own tiny Quick menu and
| always minimize the ribbons. Stupid stupid stupid. I like that
| Microsoft in their tutorial for Word 2007 waste my time by pointing
| out that I am free to choose between 3 color schemes for my Word
| windows.
| The bottom line is that I have this new super-charged product, and
| mainly I have to waste time finding work-arounds because it can't do
| what the older version did. I really really hate having to waste time
| because the design team didn't consider the way I use a computer.
| Jeff R -- Winter Haven, FL
|
| "RickB" wrote:
|
|| With all due respect to the new Office 2007 "Ribbon" menues, is
|| there a way to show "classic" toolbars like Office 2003? I just
|| spent 2 hours looking in PowerPoint 2007 for a feature I used
|| several times a day in 2003. I understand the Ribbons to be for the
|| 80% people. Problem is, I'm one of the 20%.
||
|| thanks,
|| RickB
 
J

JaimeZX

Milly, unfortunately many of us have 2007 forced upon us by our IT
department. I am lucky in that due to some specific software requirements I
retain administrative privelages and have been able to dual-install Office
2k3, but most of my coworkers are out of luck in that regard. The loss of
productivity around here during the transition has been painful, to say the
least.

Jim
 
K

Kurt

I can't stand this ribbon (excel for dummies and the greater good version) I
can't even edit a bottom image or assign a macro to a button using a simple
right click anymore. This was a total waste of my money and time. Why are we
being forced fed this worthless ribbon stuff when all I need is to get back
to having Excel my way as I paid for? I want my classic customizable tool
bars and functions back so I can get back to work. Let the common folks
wonder aimlessly in the pretty ribbons.

Kurt
 
S

Shailesh Shah

You can download free Office (Classic) menu addins from below site.

http://shahshaileshs.web.officelive.com/MenuAddins.aspx


For Excel with new features of Excel-2007:
http://shahshaileshs.web.officelive.com/Exshail_Classic_Menu.aspx



Regards,
Shailesh Shah
http://shahshaileshs.web.officelive.com/
If You Can't Excel with Talent, Triumph with Effort.

Free Addins Office Menu-2003 for Office-2007
http://shahshaileshs.web.officelive.com/MenuAddins.aspx

Free Exshail Classic Menu for Excel-2007
http://shahshaileshs.web.officelive.com/Exshail_Classic_Menu.aspx
 
M

Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Going back to the old 97-2003 style menus decreases mine. YMMV.

--
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Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.
ALWAYS post your Outlook version.
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After furious head scratching, SES77 asked:

| Just installed the add in pack for the old menu system in office
| 2007, it is great, Goodbye to the Ribbon. My productivty has doubled.
|
| Link is below
|
|
http://download.cnet.com/3001-18483_4-10637184.html?spi=44a9467a0925e380df2f609e00aecef9
|
| "Kurt" wrote:
|
|| I can't stand this ribbon (excel for dummies and the greater good
|| version) I can't even edit a bottom image or assign a macro to a
|| button using a simple right click anymore. This was a total waste of
|| my money and time. Why are we being forced fed this worthless ribbon
|| stuff when all I need is to get back to having Excel my way as I
|| paid for? I want my classic customizable tool bars and functions
|| back so I can get back to work. Let the common folks wonder
|| aimlessly in the pretty ribbons.
||
|| Kurt
||
|| "RickB" wrote:
||
||| With all due respect to the new Office 2007 "Ribbon" menues, is
||| there a way to show "classic" toolbars like Office 2003? I just
||| spent 2 hours looking in PowerPoint 2007 for a feature I used
||| several times a day in 2003. I understand the Ribbons to be for
||| the 80% people. Problem is, I'm one of the 20%.
|||
||| thanks,
||| RickB
 

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