Office mac teacher+student

[simo66]

If I buy a student+teacher copy of office mac for my son of 13 years for his
macbook, will I be able to install it ok? I was concerned I would be
requested to enter any education establishment specific data I may not have?
Any advice would be appreciated.

 

[Corentin Cras-Méneur]

If I buy a student+teacher copy of office mac for my son of 13 years for his
macbook, will I be able to install it ok? I was concerned I would be
requested to enter any education establishment specific data I may not have?
Any advice would be appreciated.

I don;t believe you have to enter any such thing when you install it.
The only difference between the full version and the one you have is the
price. Otherwise the CDs are identical,


Corentin

 

[simo66]

I do not have the software as yet. My sons macbook came with only trial
versions of office and works so he has only a limited text editor left
functioning which I find a bit mean. I can purchase a copy of the cheaper
version but was wanting to make sure I wasn't missing anything in the info
from the macoffice website.
Thanks for your advice.

Ewan.

 

[Diane Ross]

I do not have the software as yet. My sons macbook came with only trial
versions of office and works so he has only a limited text editor left
functioning which I find a bit mean. I can purchase a copy of the cheaper
version but was wanting to make sure I wasn't missing anything in the info
from the macoffice website.

Be sure to use "Remove Office" to remove the test drive BEFORE installing
from the CD. Removing the test drive has been very troublesome for many
users especially if they do not remove before installing from the CD.

For more on removing the test drive see:

<http://www.entourage.mvps.org/install/demo.html>

 

[debrigard]

If I buy a student+teacher copy of office mac for my son of 13 years for his
macbook, will I be able to install it ok? I was concerned I would be
requested to enter any education establishment specific data I may not have?
Any advice would be appreciated.

I bought a Student/teacher edition (the only version I could find on
the Apple site when I bought my MacPro) . I had the same worry, since
I am not a teacher or student. I installed it with no problems and did
not have to answer any questions (or supply any documentation) as to
whether I was or was not a teacher or student, from which I concluded
that maybe the difference is in the features. I haven´t compared it
thoroughly with the regular edition, although I am told it doesn´t do
pivot tables and has a fewer assortment of functions than the regular
one.

 

[Michel Bintener]

I bought a Student/teacher edition (the only version I could find on
the Apple site when I bought my MacPro) . I had the same worry, since
I am not a teacher or student. I installed it with no problems and did
not have to answer any questions (or supply any documentation) as to
whether I was or was not a teacher or student, from which I concluded
that maybe the difference is in the features. I haven¥t compared it
thoroughly with the regular edition, although I am told it doesn¥t do
pivot tables and has a fewer assortment of functions than the regular
one.

No, the S&T edition of Microsoft Office 2004 is identical to the Standard
edition as far as functionality is concerned; the major differences are the
cheaper price and a different licensing agreement ( you cannot use the S&T
edition for commercial purposes, for instance).

--
Michel Bintener
Microsoft MVP
Office:Mac (Entourage & Word)

***Always reply to the newsgroup.***

 

[simo66]

Many thanks for all the replies.

No, the S&T edition of Microsoft Office 2004 is identical to the Standard
edition as far as functionality is concerned; the major differences are the
cheaper price and a different licensing agreement ( you cannot use the S&T
edition for commercial purposes, for instance).

--
Michel Bintener
Microsoft MVP
Office:Mac (Entourage & Word)

***Always reply to the newsgroup.***

 

[John McGhie]

Nope: Apart from requiring a product key from a different series, the S&T
edition is byte-for-byte exactly identical to the commercial version.

However, unless you are currently enrolled students of a recognised
educational institution, or a teach at an educational institution, you guys
are both breaking the law

Obviously, if enough people decide they will pretend to be "students" to get
the cheap version, Microsoft will stop offering the cheaper one.

The only people who would suffer then would be the students, who really
*can't* afford to pay the full price. You might want to consider this when
making your decision.

I bought a Student/teacher edition (the only version I could find on
the Apple site when I bought my MacPro) . I had the same worry, since
I am not a teacher or student. I installed it with no problems and did
not have to answer any questions (or supply any documentation) as to
whether I was or was not a teacher or student, from which I concluded
that maybe the difference is in the features. I haven´t compared it
thoroughly with the regular edition, although I am told it doesn´t do
pivot tables and has a fewer assortment of functions than the regular
one.

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[Tilman Sporkert]

However, unless you are currently enrolled students of a recognised
educational institution, or a teach at an educational institution, you guys
are both breaking the law

Not necessarily. As long as there is just one person in your household
that is an eligible student or teacher, you can install and use it on up
to 3 computers in the same household, for "non-commercial use by people
who reside in your household". These people don't have to be students or
teachers.

Obviously, if enough people decide they will pretend to be "students" to get
the cheap version, Microsoft will stop offering the cheaper one.

They did exactly the opposite with the Windows version: There's a
"Office Home and Student 2007" edition. Same price as the old "Student
and Teacher" edition, same non-commercial license, but without the
student/teacher requirement. Anybody can buy this one for personal use
at home or for education.

 

[John McGhie]

Well, you need to be a lawyer to decode the wording of those damned End User
Licence Agreements, which are different in each legal jurisdiction in the
world.

However, I understand that the text of almost all of them uses the word
"You", which is defined as "The purchaser", and requires that said person be
a student or a teacher.

If you check the fine print of the PC version carefully, you will discover
that it is NOT the full version of the product, it's a "lite" version that
omits many of the applications. And the price is a lot higher than it would
be if it were really an educational version.

And they did that because they found no way of making dealers comply with
the terms of the Educational Licence, which required the dealer to sight and
verify the purchasers' student card

The Mac version is the full product, its price is a lot lower, but its
licence is more restrictive. The full text is here:
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/office2004/howtobuy/howtobuy.aspx?pid=
qualifiedUser

Cheers

Not necessarily. As long as there is just one person in your household
that is an eligible student or teacher, you can install and use it on up
to 3 computers in the same household, for "non-commercial use by people
who reside in your household". These people don't have to be students or
teachers.


They did exactly the opposite with the Windows version: There's a
"Office Home and Student 2007" edition. Same price as the old "Student
and Teacher" edition, same non-commercial license, but without the
student/teacher requirement. Anybody can buy this one for personal use
at home or for education.

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[Gerald Vogt]

An english license can be found

http://download.microsoft.com/docum...lish_307b806b-0531-4408-bae8-1269e1f49e38.pdf

However, I understand that the text of almost all of them uses the word
"You", which is defined as "The purchaser", and requires that said person be
a student or a teacher.

That is nowhere mentioned. I have never found "the purchaser" in any
license. If it was "the purchaser" you would not be able to buy some
software and make it a gift to someone who is eligible.

It would also be legally difficult as the eligible person can be under
18 years. That's why it says: "YOU MUST BE A QUALIFIED EDUCATIONAL USER
OR THE PARENT OR LEGAL GUARDIAN OF A QUALIFIED EDUCATIONAL USER WHO IS A
MINOR TO LICENSE THIS SOFTWARE."

Thus, if I buy the student version for my eligible child it is fully in
accordance to the license agreement. I do not have to be a student or
teacher.

Gerald

 

[John McGhie]

Hi Gerald:

Interesting! That wording does NOT appear in the American EULA.

As I said, it's different in every jurisdiction

Cheers

An english license can be found

http://download.microsoft.com/documents/useterms/Office for MAC Student%
20and%20Teacher_2004_English_307b806b-0531-4408-bae8-1269e1f49e38.pdf



That is nowhere mentioned. I have never found "the purchaser" in any
license. If it was "the purchaser" you would not be able to buy some
software and make it a gift to someone who is eligible.

It would also be legally difficult as the eligible person can be under
18 years. That's why it says: "YOU MUST BE A QUALIFIED EDUCATIONAL USER
OR THE PARENT OR LEGAL GUARDIAN OF A QUALIFIED EDUCATIONAL USER WHO IS A
MINOR TO LICENSE THIS SOFTWARE."

Thus, if I buy the student version for my eligible child it is fully in
accordance to the license agreement. I do not have to be a student or
teacher.

Gerald

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