Office quits on startup

C

CShea

This is a longstanding problem. My copy of Office X quits every time
on startup. I can work around this by opening an existing document,
but that has its limitations (aside from being annoying).

I learned in this group that the problem must stem from my having
moved Office by Firewire from my old iMac to my new one, rather than
freshly installing it. I was advised to manually un-install Office and
to re-install it.

I've tried this several times and the problem persists. (When I try to
use the "uninstall" function, as an alternative, I'm told I don't have
the proper permissions to do so.) How I can get Office X fully working
again?
 
D

Diane Ross

I've tried this several times and the problem persists. (When I try to
use the "uninstall" function, as an alternative, I'm told I don't have
the proper permissions to do so.) How I can get Office X fully working
again?

Log in as admin and you can do a proper install.
 
D

Diane Ross

How do you log in as admin?

Select the Finder as your active application. Under help, type in "Giving an
account administrator privileges" (without the quotes).

You should also read: About administrator accounts
 
C

CShea

I evidently *do* have administrator privileges, yet I still get the
message that I don't have the right to uninstall Office.
I assume this has to do with the fact I transferred Office to this
machine from another machine, rather than doing a fresh install. So
I'm still stuck.
 
D

Diane Ross

I evidently *do* have administrator privileges, yet I still get the
message that I don't have the right to uninstall Office.
I assume this has to do with the fact I transferred Office to this
machine from another machine, rather than doing a fresh install. So
I'm still stuck.

Do a Get Info on the Office folder and see what permissions are set.
 
C

CShea

Okay, we're getting closer. When I Get Info on the Office folder
Idon't see the three "users" I see on the OSX login window. I see "me
(cshea)", "admin", and "others."
Cshea has read/write privileges, admin had read-only privileges
(though I just changed them to "read/ write"), "others" has read-only.
So how do I log on as this admin fellow (who does not, again, appear
on my OSX login window)?
--Chris
 
D

Diane Ross

Okay, we're getting closer. When I Get Info on the Office folder
Idon't see the three "users" I see on the OSX login window. I see "me
(cshea)", "admin", and "others."
Cshea has read/write privileges, admin had read-only privileges
(though I just changed them to "read/ write"), "others" has read-only.
So how do I log on as this admin fellow (who does not, again, appear
on my OSX login window)?

Simply changing the permissions so that admin has read/write should all YOU
to do a re-install. It's possible other files will need to upgraded as well.
I think you can do this with the terminal, but I'm not expert on that so
don't know what command line you would need. I did a quick search on my
notes and found the following:

1) While started from the Leopard Install DVD, a user's home directory
permissions can be reset using the "Reset Password" utility.

2) MacOSXHints Forum: You do not have sufficient privileges...
<http://tinyurl.com/dfggfv>

Let me know what you find.
 
C

CShea

Simply changing the permissions so that admin has read/write should all YOU
to do a re-install. It's possible other files will need to upgraded as well.
I think you can do this with the terminal, but I'm not expert on that so
don't know what command line you would need. I did a quick search on my
notes and found the following:

1)  While started from the Leopard Install DVD, a user's home directory
permissions can be reset using the "Reset Password" utility.

2)  MacOSXHints Forum: You do not have sufficient privileges...
<http://tinyurl.com/dfggfv>

Let me know what you find.

I changed the admin permissions to read/write, but still no luck. I
have no idea how to use the terminal -- those lines of code look
pretty intimidating.
Does MS offer help by phone, for a charge, for this kind of thing?
I've been living with a hobbled Office for a year now.

--Chris
 
D

Diane Ross

I changed the admin permissions to read/write, but still no luck. I
have no idea how to use the terminal -- those lines of code look
pretty intimidating.

The terminal is not a place to be if it's not something you are comfortable
doing. That's many Mac users.
Does MS offer help by phone, for a charge, for this kind of thing?
I've been living with a hobbled Office for a year now.

There phone service is pretty limited. I do consulting and you can probably
find consultants through your local Mac User Group. If you are interested in
my services, send me an email:

<http://www.entourage.mvps.org/support_options/email.html>

===========MSFT Support===================
Help and Support <http://tinyurl.com/56wo3o>

No-charge: 2 support request
If your Microsoft product was already installed on your computer when you
purchased it, contact your computer manufacturer to see if no-charge support
is available to you. (View Contact information) Support for preinstalled
products is available from Microsoft for a fee. Some issues may require more
Advanced support for which there is a charge.
(866) 474-4882

Cost:$49.00 plus applicable taxes per support request during business hours
after all no-charge support is used.
(Note: Advanced support is not covered under this charge.) Major credit
cards accepted.

(866) 474-4882

Hope this helps!
 
C

CShea

The terminal is not a place to be if it's not something you are comfortable
doing. That's many Mac users.


There phone service is pretty limited. I do consulting and you can probably
find consultants through your local Mac User Group. If you are interestedin
my services, send me an email:

<http://www.entourage.mvps.org/support_options/email.html>

===========MSFT Support===================
Help and Support <http://tinyurl.com/56wo3o>

No-charge: 2 support request
If your Microsoft product was already installed on your computer when you
purchased it, contact your computer manufacturer to see if no-charge support
is available to you. (View Contact information) Support for preinstalled
products is available from Microsoft for a fee. Some issues may require more
Advanced support for which there is a charge.
(866) 474-4882

Cost:$49.00 plus applicable taxes per support request during business hours
after all no-charge support is used.
(Note: Advanced support is not covered under this charge.) Major credit
cards accepted.

(866) 474-4882

Hope this helps!

Many thanks. I've also checked out one of Pogue's books, and it seems
that he covers exactly this issue -- how to fix permissions problems
via the terminal. So I will give it a try myself first!
 
D

Diane Ross

Many thanks. I've also checked out one of Pogue's books, and it seems
that he covers exactly this issue -- how to fix permissions problems
via the terminal. So I will give it a try myself first!

When I mention "Archive & Install" most users cringe, but it's not such a
bad process and it's often the quickest and easiest way to solve some
problems. The last time I had to do this, the only thing I had to reinstall
was the Microsoft keyboard software.

"Archive and Install" moves existing system files to a folder named Previous
System and then installs Mac OS X again. Be sure to select the "Preserve
User and Network Settings" option to preserve your current Users folder and
related network configuration. If you have any questions about doing the
archive & install see:

General advice on performing an Archive and Install
<http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/archiveinstall.html>

Apple KB 107120
<http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107120>
 

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