Office X, Office 2004 Test Drive

[drgooply]

I just bought a new intel Mac. It's come with a test drive of Office
2004. I am already using Office X. I've installed my old Microsoft
Office X on my new computer. Any reason to upgrade to 2004? Seems
like a lot of problems go with it. Any time I open a document now, it
opens in the test drive version of Office 2004 with a pitch to buy it.
Any reason to leave X behind in favor or 2004? Or best to stay with X?
Biggest problem with X was inexplicable "Word has unexpectedly Quit"
periodically, which caused me to set a preference for backing up every
two minutes.
Thanks

 

[Clive Huggan]

Dear [whoever],

The test drive should be removed before installing the full version in order
to prevent future problems. Don't remove it manually: use the Remove Office
tool located in the Value Pack folder on your Office X CD. When you run that
application, you will be given the option to remove the test drive only.

But seeing you asked, I'd recommend installing Office 2004, which is now
heavily discounted. It is a huge improvement on Office X, especially the
Word application -- mainly because Office X was based on a very early,
pre-release version of OS X, and as we all know, OS X has undergone profound
changes in the past 5 years. The problems with Word 2004 on Intel Macs are
not inherent to that version -- it's just that people with that version are
reporting the problems.

Cheers,

Clive Huggan
Canberra, Australia
(My time zone is 5-11 hours different from the US and Europe, so my
follow-on responses to those regions can be delayed)
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[John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]]

Hi Clive:

Actually, the Test Drive supplied on the Intel Macs has a Remove Office
application at the top level of the Microsoft Office folder.

That's the one they should use.

This is a change, I think, and I suspect that we should all remember this
when advising people. I don't think that the Remove Office supplied with
Office X will find all the bits of Office 2004 and remove them properly.

Cheers

Dear [whoever],

The test drive should be removed before installing the full version in order
to prevent future problems. Don't remove it manually: use the Remove Office
tool located in the Value Pack folder on your Office X CD. When you run that
application, you will be given the option to remove the test drive only.

But seeing you asked, I'd recommend installing Office 2004, which is now
heavily discounted. It is a huge improvement on Office X, especially the
Word application -- mainly because Office X was based on a very early,
pre-release version of OS X, and as we all know, OS X has undergone profound
changes in the past 5 years. The problems with Word 2004 on Intel Macs are
not inherent to that version -- it's just that people with that version are
reporting the problems.

Cheers,

Clive Huggan
Canberra, Australia
(My time zone is 5-11 hours different from the US and Europe, so my
follow-on responses to those regions can be delayed)
============================================================
* SUGGESTION -- KEEP REVISITING AFTER YOU POST: If you post a question, keep
re-visiting the newsgroup for several days after the first response comes
in. Sometimes it takes a few responses before the best or complete solution
is provided; sometimes you'll be asked for further information. Good tips
about getting the best out of posting are at
http://word.mvps.org/Mac/AccessNewsgroups.html and
http://word.mvps.org/FindHelp/Posting.htm (if you use Safari you may see a
blank page and have to hit the circular arrow icon -- "Reload the current
page" -- two or more times).
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I just bought a new intel Mac. It's come with a test drive of Office
2004. I am already using Office X. I've installed my old Microsoft
Office X on my new computer. Any reason to upgrade to 2004? Seems
like a lot of problems go with it. Any time I open a document now, it
opens in the test drive version of Office 2004 with a pitch to buy it.
Any reason to leave X behind in favor or 2004? Or best to stay with X?
Biggest problem with X was inexplicable "Word has unexpectedly Quit"
periodically, which caused me to set a preference for backing up every
two minutes.
Thanks

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Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant
Technical Writer.
Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410

 

[Beth Rosengard]

Actually, I don't know if it's necessary to remove the 2004 Test Drive at
all, unless you're installing the full version of 2004! Installing the full
version of Office X should be irrelevant to the 2004 Test Drive.

To drgooply: I agree that updating to 2004 is a good idea; it's a much
better version. However, if you decide not to do so, you should be able to
have Word X be your default version via the following procedure:

Click once on a Word document to select it and do a Get Info (Cmd>i). In
the Open With section, use the popup menu to select Microsoft Word X. If
you don't see that option listed, click Other and navigate to it in the
finder. Once you've selected it, click the Change All button.

Note: I sometimes find that I have to do this procedure a second time
before it sticks.

--
***Please always reply to the newsgroup!***

Beth Rosengard
MacOffice MVP

Mac Word FAQ: <http://word.mvps.org/Mac/WordMacHome.html>
My Site: <http://www.bethrosengard.com>

Hi Clive:

Actually, the Test Drive supplied on the Intel Macs has a Remove Office
application at the top level of the Microsoft Office folder.

That's the one they should use.

This is a change, I think, and I suspect that we should all remember this
when advising people. I don't think that the Remove Office supplied with
Office X will find all the bits of Office 2004 and remove them properly.

Cheers

Dear [whoever],

The test drive should be removed before installing the full version in order
to prevent future problems. Don't remove it manually: use the Remove Office
tool located in the Value Pack folder on your Office X CD. When you run that
application, you will be given the option to remove the test drive only.

But seeing you asked, I'd recommend installing Office 2004, which is now
heavily discounted. It is a huge improvement on Office X, especially the
Word application -- mainly because Office X was based on a very early,
pre-release version of OS X, and as we all know, OS X has undergone profound
changes in the past 5 years. The problems with Word 2004 on Intel Macs are
not inherent to that version -- it's just that people with that version are
reporting the problems.

Cheers,

Clive Huggan

I just bought a new intel Mac. It's come with a test drive of Office
2004. I am already using Office X. I've installed my old Microsoft
Office X on my new computer. Any reason to upgrade to 2004? Seems
like a lot of problems go with it. Any time I open a document now, it
opens in the test drive version of Office 2004 with a pitch to buy it.
Any reason to leave X behind in favor or 2004? Or best to stay with X?
Biggest problem with X was inexplicable "Word has unexpectedly Quit"
periodically, which caused me to set a preference for backing up every
two minutes.
Thanks

 

[drgooply]

Thanks, people for your help. I guess I'll go forward and install
Office 2004. Tell me this: if I install the full version of Office
2004, after deleting the Test Drive, (before? or after?) what do you
suggest I do with Office X, which is previously installed on my Hard
Drive. Should I keep it? Or uninstall it?
Office 2004 might be an improvement, by the way, but the Help Menu
within the program is just as hopelessly unhelpful as ever. The
results to a search for a term are always laughably useless and
inappropriate.
That's what this forum is for!
Thanks
DrG

Actually, I don't know if it's necessary to remove the 2004 Test Drive at
all, unless you're installing the full version of 2004! Installing the full
version of Office X should be irrelevant to the 2004 Test Drive.

To drgooply: I agree that updating to 2004 is a good idea; it's a much
better version. However, if you decide not to do so, you should be able to
have Word X be your default version via the following procedure:

Click once on a Word document to select it and do a Get Info (Cmd>i). In
the Open With section, use the popup menu to select Microsoft Word X. If
you don't see that option listed, click Other and navigate to it in the
finder. Once you've selected it, click the Change All button.

Note: I sometimes find that I have to do this procedure a second time
before it sticks.

--
***Please always reply to the newsgroup!***

Beth Rosengard
MacOffice MVP

Mac Word FAQ: <http://word.mvps.org/Mac/WordMacHome.html>
My Site: <http://www.bethrosengard.com>

Hi Clive:

Actually, the Test Drive supplied on the Intel Macs has a Remove Office
application at the top level of the Microsoft Office folder.

That's the one they should use.

This is a change, I think, and I suspect that we should all remember this
when advising people. I don't think that the Remove Office supplied with
Office X will find all the bits of Office 2004 and remove them properly.

Cheers

Dear [whoever],

The test drive should be removed before installing the full version in order
to prevent future problems. Don't remove it manually: use the Remove Office
tool located in the Value Pack folder on your Office X CD. When you run that
application, you will be given the option to remove the test drive only.

But seeing you asked, I'd recommend installing Office 2004, which is now
heavily discounted. It is a huge improvement on Office X, especially the
Word application -- mainly because Office X was based on a very early,
pre-release version of OS X, and as we all know, OS X has undergone profound
changes in the past 5 years. The problems with Word 2004 on Intel Macs are
not inherent to that version -- it's just that people with that version are
reporting the problems.

Cheers,

Clive Huggan
On 28/10/06 8:09 AM, in article
(e-mail address removed), "drgooply"

I just bought a new intel Mac. It's come with a test drive of Office
2004. I am already using Office X. I've installed my old Microsoft
Office X on my new computer. Any reason to upgrade to 2004? Seems
like a lot of problems go with it. Any time I open a document now, it
opens in the test drive version of Office 2004 with a pitch to buy it.
Any reason to leave X behind in favor or 2004? Or best to stay with X?
Biggest problem with X was inexplicable "Word has unexpectedly Quit"
periodically, which caused me to set a preference for backing up every
two minutes.
Thanks

 

[CyberTaz]

If you intend to install 2004:

Remove the Test Drive *first*, but it is a part of the installation
procedure, you don't have to do it as a separate step, and

Whether you leave X installed is up to you, but you have no need for it. If
you are installing the *upgrade* to 2004 I believe that choice also is
handled during the installation process.

The Help in 2004 isn't much better than what was in X, but at least it's
[pretty much] version specific

BTW - as a reminder, make sure you remove Test Drive with the Remove Office
Tool utility, don't just drag the folder to the Trash. If the process isn't
'crystal clear' to you take a look here:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/871017/en-us?spid=2490&sid=225

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

Thanks, people for your help. I guess I'll go forward and install
Office 2004. Tell me this: if I install the full version of Office
2004, after deleting the Test Drive, (before? or after?) what do you
suggest I do with Office X, which is previously installed on my Hard
Drive. Should I keep it? Or uninstall it?
Office 2004 might be an improvement, by the way, but the Help Menu
within the program is just as hopelessly unhelpful as ever. The
results to a search for a term are always laughably useless and
inappropriate.
That's what this forum is for!
Thanks
DrG

Actually, I don't know if it's necessary to remove the 2004 Test Drive at
all, unless you're installing the full version of 2004! Installing the full
version of Office X should be irrelevant to the 2004 Test Drive.

To drgooply: I agree that updating to 2004 is a good idea; it's a much
better version. However, if you decide not to do so, you should be able to
have Word X be your default version via the following procedure:

Click once on a Word document to select it and do a Get Info (Cmd>i). In
the Open With section, use the popup menu to select Microsoft Word X. If
you don't see that option listed, click Other and navigate to it in the
finder. Once you've selected it, click the Change All button.

Note: I sometimes find that I have to do this procedure a second time
before it sticks.

--
***Please always reply to the newsgroup!***

Beth Rosengard
MacOffice MVP

Mac Word FAQ: <http://word.mvps.org/Mac/WordMacHome.html>
My Site: <http://www.bethrosengard.com>

Hi Clive:

Actually, the Test Drive supplied on the Intel Macs has a Remove Office
application at the top level of the Microsoft Office folder.

That's the one they should use.

This is a change, I think, and I suspect that we should all remember this
when advising people. I don't think that the Remove Office supplied with
Office X will find all the bits of Office 2004 and remove them properly.

Cheers


On 28/10/06 9:24 AM, in article
C168D26B.208F1%[email protected], "Clive Huggan"

Dear [whoever],

The test drive should be removed before installing the full version in
order
to prevent future problems. Don't remove it manually: use the Remove Office
tool located in the Value Pack folder on your Office X CD. When you run
that
application, you will be given the option to remove the test drive only.

But seeing you asked, I'd recommend installing Office 2004, which is now
heavily discounted. It is a huge improvement on Office X, especially the
Word application -- mainly because Office X was based on a very early,
pre-release version of OS X, and as we all know, OS X has undergone
profound
changes in the past 5 years. The problems with Word 2004 on Intel Macs are
not inherent to that version -- it's just that people with that version are
reporting the problems.

Cheers,

Clive Huggan

On 28/10/06 8:09 AM, in article
(e-mail address removed), "drgooply"

I just bought a new intel Mac. It's come with a test drive of Office
2004. I am already using Office X. I've installed my old Microsoft
Office X on my new computer. Any reason to upgrade to 2004? Seems
like a lot of problems go with it. Any time I open a document now, it
opens in the test drive version of Office 2004 with a pitch to buy it.
Any reason to leave X behind in favor or 2004? Or best to stay with X?
Biggest problem with X was inexplicable "Word has unexpectedly Quit"
periodically, which caused me to set a preference for backing up every
two minutes.
Thanks

 

[Clive Huggan]

And repairing permissions via Disk Utility before and after doing the
installation is a good practice (as with any software installation in OS X).

Clive Huggan
==============

If you intend to install 2004:

Remove the Test Drive *first*, but it is a part of the installation
procedure, you don't have to do it as a separate step, and

Whether you leave X installed is up to you, but you have no need for it. If
you are installing the *upgrade* to 2004 I believe that choice also is
handled during the installation process.

The Help in 2004 isn't much better than what was in X, but at least it's
[pretty much] version specific

BTW - as a reminder, make sure you remove Test Drive with the Remove Office
Tool utility, don't just drag the folder to the Trash. If the process isn't
'crystal clear' to you take a look here:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/871017/en-us?spid=2490&sid=225

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

Thanks, people for your help. I guess I'll go forward and install
Office 2004. Tell me this: if I install the full version of Office
2004, after deleting the Test Drive, (before? or after?) what do you
suggest I do with Office X, which is previously installed on my Hard
Drive. Should I keep it? Or uninstall it?
Office 2004 might be an improvement, by the way, but the Help Menu
within the program is just as hopelessly unhelpful as ever. The
results to a search for a term are always laughably useless and
inappropriate.
That's what this forum is for!
Thanks
DrG

Actually, I don't know if it's necessary to remove the 2004 Test Drive at
all, unless you're installing the full version of 2004! Installing the full
version of Office X should be irrelevant to the 2004 Test Drive.

To drgooply: I agree that updating to 2004 is a good idea; it's a much
better version. However, if you decide not to do so, you should be able to
have Word X be your default version via the following procedure:

Click once on a Word document to select it and do a Get Info (Cmd>i). In
the Open With section, use the popup menu to select Microsoft Word X. If
you don't see that option listed, click Other and navigate to it in the
finder. Once you've selected it, click the Change All button.

Note: I sometimes find that I have to do this procedure a second time
before it sticks.

--
***Please always reply to the newsgroup!***

Beth Rosengard
MacOffice MVP

Mac Word FAQ: <http://word.mvps.org/Mac/WordMacHome.html>
My Site: <http://www.bethrosengard.com>




On 10/27/06 6:57 PM, in article C168F620.4F928%[email protected], "John

Hi Clive:

Actually, the Test Drive supplied on the Intel Macs has a Remove Office
application at the top level of the Microsoft Office folder.

That's the one they should use.

This is a change, I think, and I suspect that we should all remember this
when advising people. I don't think that the Remove Office supplied with
Office X will find all the bits of Office 2004 and remove them properly.

Cheers


On 28/10/06 9:24 AM, in article
C168D26B.208F1%[email protected], "Clive Huggan"

Dear [whoever],

The test drive should be removed before installing the full version in
order
to prevent future problems. Don't remove it manually: use the Remove
Office
tool located in the Value Pack folder on your Office X CD. When you run
that
application, you will be given the option to remove the test drive only.

But seeing you asked, I'd recommend installing Office 2004, which is now
heavily discounted. It is a huge improvement on Office X, especially the
Word application -- mainly because Office X was based on a very early,
pre-release version of OS X, and as we all know, OS X has undergone
profound
changes in the past 5 years. The problems with Word 2004 on Intel Macs
are
not inherent to that version -- it's just that people with that version
are
reporting the problems.

Cheers,

Clive Huggan

On 28/10/06 8:09 AM, in article
(e-mail address removed), "drgooply"

I just bought a new intel Mac. It's come with a test drive of Office
2004. I am already using Office X. I've installed my old Microsoft
Office X on my new computer. Any reason to upgrade to 2004? Seems
like a lot of problems go with it. Any time I open a document now, it
opens in the test drive version of Office 2004 with a pitch to buy it.
Any reason to leave X behind in favor or 2004? Or best to stay with X?
Biggest problem with X was inexplicable "Word has unexpectedly Quit"
periodically, which caused me to set a preference for backing up every
two minutes.
Thanks