OL2003 - dragging mail to tasks doesn't create attachment of original, how to fix?

[StargateFanWrk]

In O2K, if you drag an email message into the tasks folder, it duplicates
the message but also converts the original message into an attachment within
the task. Can someone advise me how to get that behaviour back in OL2003,
pls.

Thanks. D

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

Try ctrl+drag or right click + drag to get attachments. It won't do both
though - you can get one or the other.

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[StargateFanWrk]

<sigh> Well, at least I got _half_ of the functionality back, although with
the added extra step since the Tasks are no longer accessible in the folder
pane so can't slide directly but carefully have to right-click and drag to
tasks icon down at bottom which opens the tasks in the navigation pane and
then up to the tasks at the top (M$ = 1 step forward, 2 steps backward with
version changes <lol>).

Unlike O2K, although I get my original message with attachments, yes, he
body of the message doesn't also get dumped, visible below the attached
message. This means that I have to open the email each and every time I
need to consult the context email <sigh>.

Still, can't lose the attachments so have to live with the loss of the
message unless I train myself to copy the contents of the email first before
the click and drag business to the tasks folder <sigh>. Might have to do
the extra work since it will be more work to open up every single email
message each time we need to check something. We must keep the attachment;
we don't need to access it vs. needing to see the content of the email.
(Why does M$ do these types of things?? There is no gain in this loss of
functionality. Unless I'm missing something [pls, pls let it be that I'm
missing something <g>])

Thanks. I really appreciate the help.

D

Try ctrl+drag or right click + drag to get attachments. It won't do both
though - you can get one or the other.

--
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In O2K, if you drag an email message into the tasks folder, it duplicates
the message but also converts the original message into an attachment
within the task. Can someone advise me how to get that behaviour back in
OL2003, pls.

Thanks. D

 

[Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook]]

<sigh> Well, at least I got _half_ of the functionality back, although with
the added extra step since the Tasks are no longer accessible in the folder
pane so can't slide directly

Sure you can. Just use the Folder List view instead of the Mail view.

 

[StargateFanWrk]

Sure you can. Just use the Folder List view instead of the Mail view.

Oh, yeay. I figured out how to get that; tricky that there's more than one
"folder view".

So I can drag directly that way.

But that view loses me my favorites - and there's no Outlook Bar anymore ...
or is there?? Maybe there's something that's replaced that that isn't just
the limited favorites (?)

<crossing fingers><g>

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

Just drag to the buttons on the navigation pane - it will open in the right
form type.

If you need the message readable and the attachment, drag it so it opens the
form with the text in the body,. Drag the message to the open form to add it
as an attachment. Or just drag the attachment to the open form. You can drag
attachments right from the reading pane to the form.

--
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<sigh> Well, at least I got _half_ of the functionality back, although
with the added extra step since the Tasks are no longer accessible in the
folder pane so can't slide directly but carefully have to right-click and
drag to tasks icon down at bottom which opens the tasks in the navigation
pane and then up to the tasks at the top (M$ = 1 step forward, 2 steps
backward with version changes <lol>).

Unlike O2K, although I get my original message with attachments, yes, he
body of the message doesn't also get dumped, visible below the attached
message. This means that I have to open the email each and every time I
need to consult the context email <sigh>.

Still, can't lose the attachments so have to live with the loss of the
message unless I train myself to copy the contents of the email first
before the click and drag business to the tasks folder <sigh>. Might have
to do the extra work since it will be more work to open up every single
email message each time we need to check something. We must keep the
attachment; we don't need to access it vs. needing to see the content of
the email. (Why does M$ do these types of things?? There is no gain in
this loss of functionality. Unless I'm missing something [pls, pls let it
be that I'm missing something <g>])

Thanks. I really appreciate the help.

D

Try ctrl+drag or right click + drag to get attachments. It won't do both
though - you can get one or the other.

--
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In O2K, if you drag an email message into the tasks folder, it
duplicates the message but also converts the original message into an
attachment within the task. Can someone advise me how to get that
behaviour back in OL2003, pls.

Thanks. D

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

That's too much work - just drag to the button at the bottom of the nav
pane.

no outlook bar - there is the shortcut pane but its not as useful. If you do
it my way, you can have your favorites and drag to other folder types. If
you need to save it to a different folder (like Tasks 1) use the Move to
folder command instead of save and close.

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[StargateFanWrk]

Okay, I must be doing something wrong because I get either one or the other.

Whether I choose to drag all the way down to tasks button and then all the
way up to tasks option via the navigation pane (careful, can't let the mouse
accidentally go with all that travelling around!) or whether I drag directly
into the tasks folder via the folder list (oh, where's my lovely Outlook
Bar!!!!), I either get the message with the attachments stripped or I get an
attachment with the original email including its attach doct but NO email
text, unlike O2K which gave me both _and_ without the fancy, schmancy
footwork <vbg>.

When I hold the control button down and then drag, no attachment and just
the message. No options present; the message gets converted to a task,
stripping all the attachments.
When I right-click and then drag, only a pure attachment of the original
message appears but no view of the message itself though I do get 3 options:

1. Copy here as task with text (no attachment, _only_ the email message
with a reference to doct(s).)
2. Copy here as text with attachment - nope, only attachment, no text
whatsoever.
3. Move here as text with attachment - nope, again, only attachment. No
text.

Yech. <g>

Perhaps there's another way of doing this where #2 actually does work (?)

We really need to get the O2K functionality back completely. They've given
our department the responsibility of tracking all messages coming in to the
general mailbox. We need both items since the documents they're sending
need to stay with the task yet we don't have time to be opening each one to
get the rest of the information.

Thanks once again. Really appreciate it.

D

Just drag to the buttons on the navigation pane - it will open in the
right form type.

If you need the message readable and the attachment, drag it so it opens
the form with the text in the body,. Drag the message to the open form to
add it as an attachment. Or just drag the attachment to the open form. You
can drag attachments right from the reading pane to the form.

--
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<sigh> Well, at least I got _half_ of the functionality back, although
with the added extra step since the Tasks are no longer accessible in the
folder pane so can't slide directly but carefully have to right-click and
drag to tasks icon down at bottom which opens the tasks in the navigation
pane and then up to the tasks at the top (M$ = 1 step forward, 2 steps
backward with version changes <lol>).

Unlike O2K, although I get my original message with attachments, yes, he
body of the message doesn't also get dumped, visible below the attached
message. This means that I have to open the email each and every time I
need to consult the context email <sigh>.

Still, can't lose the attachments so have to live with the loss of the
message unless I train myself to copy the contents of the email first
before the click and drag business to the tasks folder <sigh>. Might
have to do the extra work since it will be more work to open up every
single email message each time we need to check something. We must keep
the attachment; we don't need to access it vs. needing to see the content
of the email. (Why does M$ do these types of things?? There is no gain
in this loss of functionality. Unless I'm missing something [pls, pls
let it be that I'm missing something <g>])

Thanks. I really appreciate the help.

D

Try ctrl+drag or right click + drag to get attachments. It won't do both
though - you can get one or the other.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

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In O2K, if you drag an email message into the tasks folder, it
duplicates the message but also converts the original message into an
attachment within the task. Can someone advise me how to get that
behaviour back in OL2003, pls.

Thanks. D

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

The option to have both attachments and text does not exist in newer
versions. You get one or the other, not both. You'll need to do it in two
steps - open the task by dragging so you have text in the body, then drag
either the message or the attachment to the now-open task.

no need to run all around the screen - just drop on the button at the
bottom.

See http://www.slipstick.com/Tutorials/tasks/tasks.htm - I drop the message
on the button. Since I want the attachments in the message included, I
either need to add the message or the attachments to the task. The insert
item button works well if the message you want to insert is at the top of
the list, otherwise, drag and drop it. Or select all or one of the
attachments in the reading pane drag to the task form. (It's easier when
your screen is bigger as you can open the windows side by side, but I wanted
to keep the window small for the video. )

--
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Okay, I must be doing something wrong because I get either one or the
other.

Whether I choose to drag all the way down to tasks button and then all the
way up to tasks option via the navigation pane (careful, can't let the
mouse accidentally go with all that travelling around!) or whether I drag
directly into the tasks folder via the folder list (oh, where's my lovely
Outlook Bar!!!!), I either get the message with the attachments stripped
or I get an attachment with the original email including its attach doct
but NO email text, unlike O2K which gave me both _and_ without the fancy,
schmancy footwork <vbg>.

When I hold the control button down and then drag, no attachment and just
the message. No options present; the message gets converted to a task,
stripping all the attachments.
When I right-click and then drag, only a pure attachment of the original
message appears but no view of the message itself though I do get 3
options:

1. Copy here as task with text (no attachment, _only_ the email message
with a reference to doct(s).)
2. Copy here as text with attachment - nope, only attachment, no text
whatsoever.
3. Move here as text with attachment - nope, again, only attachment. No
text.

Yech. <g>

Perhaps there's another way of doing this where #2 actually does work (?)

We really need to get the O2K functionality back completely. They've
given our department the responsibility of tracking all messages coming in
to the general mailbox. We need both items since the documents they're
sending need to stay with the task yet we don't have time to be opening
each one to get the rest of the information.

Thanks once again. Really appreciate it.

D

Just drag to the buttons on the navigation pane - it will open in the
right form type.

If you need the message readable and the attachment, drag it so it opens
the form with the text in the body,. Drag the message to the open form to
add it as an attachment. Or just drag the attachment to the open form.
You can drag attachments right from the reading pane to the form.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

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<sigh> Well, at least I got _half_ of the functionality back, although
with the added extra step since the Tasks are no longer accessible in
the folder pane so can't slide directly but carefully have to
right-click and drag to tasks icon down at bottom which opens the tasks
in the navigation pane and then up to the tasks at the top (M$ = 1 step
forward, 2 steps backward with version changes <lol>).

Unlike O2K, although I get my original message with attachments, yes, he
body of the message doesn't also get dumped, visible below the attached
message. This means that I have to open the email each and every time I
need to consult the context email <sigh>.

Still, can't lose the attachments so have to live with the loss of the
message unless I train myself to copy the contents of the email first
before the click and drag business to the tasks folder <sigh>. Might
have to do the extra work since it will be more work to open up every
single email message each time we need to check something. We must keep
the attachment; we don't need to access it vs. needing to see the
content of the email. (Why does M$ do these types of things?? There is
no gain in this loss of functionality. Unless I'm missing something
[pls, pls let it be that I'm missing something <g>])

Thanks. I really appreciate the help.

D



Try ctrl+drag or right click + drag to get attachments. It won't do
both though - you can get one or the other.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

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mailto:[email protected]

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
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In O2K, if you drag an email message into the tasks folder, it
duplicates the message but also converts the original message into an
attachment within the task. Can someone advise me how to get that
behaviour back in OL2003, pls.

Thanks. D

 

[StargateFan]

Just drag to the buttons on the navigation pane - it will open in the right
form type.

I wish it would, but it doesn't. We have two tasks available, my own
and the general mailbox. I have to do the double thingie business,
drag down to the task button below and then choose the right tasks
option.

If you need the message readable and the attachment, drag it so it opens the
form with the text in the body,. Drag the message to the open form to add it

Yeah, but how? When I right click and drag I get 3 options, which
don't work the way they should. Either I get the whole message
bundled up, which includes the attachment (but no message text) or I
get just the text with nothing attached.

When I drag directly, I get _only_ text. No options come up at all.
Control drag doesn't change that.

as an attachment. Or just drag the attachment to the open form. You can drag
attachments right from the reading pane to the form.

Oh, brother, double-drag??? Drag the messge one way so that I get the
text and then drag the attachment into it?

Well, if this reduced functionality in OL2003 means that that's the
only way, then that's what I'll have to do. I jsut have to really
hope that the general mailbox doesn't received very many messages on
any given day because that's going to get very old, very fast <sigh>.

Thanks!! Appreciate the help. It's good to figure out a workaround,
at any rate. We just have to have both, just like what automatically
happened in O2K days. D

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

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<sigh> Well, at least I got _half_ of the functionality back, although
with the added extra step since the Tasks are no longer accessible in the
folder pane so can't slide directly but carefully have to right-click and
drag to tasks icon down at bottom which opens the tasks in the navigation
pane and then up to the tasks at the top (M$ = 1 step forward, 2 steps
backward with version changes <lol>).

Unlike O2K, although I get my original message with attachments, yes, he
body of the message doesn't also get dumped, visible below the attached
message. This means that I have to open the email each and every time I
need to consult the context email <sigh>.

Still, can't lose the attachments so have to live with the loss of the
message unless I train myself to copy the contents of the email first
before the click and drag business to the tasks folder <sigh>. Might have
to do the extra work since it will be more work to open up every single
email message each time we need to check something. We must keep the
attachment; we don't need to access it vs. needing to see the content of
the email. (Why does M$ do these types of things?? There is no gain in
this loss of functionality. Unless I'm missing something [pls, pls let it
be that I'm missing something <g>])

Thanks. I really appreciate the help.

D

Try ctrl+drag or right click + drag to get attachments. It won't do both
though - you can get one or the other.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

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EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
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In O2K, if you drag an email message into the tasks folder, it
duplicates the message but also converts the original message into an
attachment within the task. Can someone advise me how to get that
behaviour back in OL2003, pls.

Thanks. D

 

[StargateFan]

The option to have both attachments and text does not exist in newer
versions. You get one or the other, not both. You'll need to do it in two
steps - open the task by dragging so you have text in the body, then drag
either the message or the attachment to the now-open task.

no need to run all around the screen - just drop on the button at the
bottom.

Yeah, well, when there are more than one available tasks "folder",
that doesn't work properly. Unless there's some way to set a default,
don't see how.

The options in the bottom for the "shortcuts", or whatever they're
called, don't allow one to customize _which_ tasks the button is
connected to. (?)

I imagine that other people will have more than 2 mailboxes to deal
with, they won't be able to rely on those buttons either, I'm
guessing.

Again, unless there's something that can be done that isn't obvious?

Thanks. D

See http://www.slipstick.com/Tutorials/tasks/tasks.htm - I drop the message
on the button. Since I want the attachments in the message included, I
either need to add the message or the attachments to the task. The insert
item button works well if the message you want to insert is at the top of
the list, otherwise, drag and drop it. Or select all or one of the
attachments in the reading pane drag to the task form. (It's easier when
your screen is bigger as you can open the windows side by side, but I wanted
to keep the window small for the video. )

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

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Okay, I must be doing something wrong because I get either one or the
other.

Whether I choose to drag all the way down to tasks button and then all the
way up to tasks option via the navigation pane (careful, can't let the
mouse accidentally go with all that travelling around!) or whether I drag
directly into the tasks folder via the folder list (oh, where's my lovely
Outlook Bar!!!!), I either get the message with the attachments stripped
or I get an attachment with the original email including its attach doct
but NO email text, unlike O2K which gave me both _and_ without the fancy,
schmancy footwork <vbg>.

When I hold the control button down and then drag, no attachment and just
the message. No options present; the message gets converted to a task,
stripping all the attachments.
When I right-click and then drag, only a pure attachment of the original
message appears but no view of the message itself though I do get 3
options:

1. Copy here as task with text (no attachment, _only_ the email message
with a reference to doct(s).)
2. Copy here as text with attachment - nope, only attachment, no text
whatsoever.
3. Move here as text with attachment - nope, again, only attachment. No
text.

Yech. <g>

Perhaps there's another way of doing this where #2 actually does work (?)

We really need to get the O2K functionality back completely. They've
given our department the responsibility of tracking all messages coming in
to the general mailbox. We need both items since the documents they're
sending need to stay with the task yet we don't have time to be opening
each one to get the rest of the information.

Thanks once again. Really appreciate it.

D

Just drag to the buttons on the navigation pane - it will open in the
right form type.

If you need the message readable and the attachment, drag it so it opens
the form with the text in the body,. Drag the message to the open form to
add it as an attachment. Or just drag the attachment to the open form.
You can drag attachments right from the reading pane to the form.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

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http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=27072


<sigh> Well, at least I got _half_ of the functionality back, although
with the added extra step since the Tasks are no longer accessible in
the folder pane so can't slide directly but carefully have to
right-click and drag to tasks icon down at bottom which opens the tasks
in the navigation pane and then up to the tasks at the top (M$ = 1 step
forward, 2 steps backward with version changes <lol>).

Unlike O2K, although I get my original message with attachments, yes, he
body of the message doesn't also get dumped, visible below the attached
message. This means that I have to open the email each and every time I
need to consult the context email <sigh>.

Still, can't lose the attachments so have to live with the loss of the
message unless I train myself to copy the contents of the email first
before the click and drag business to the tasks folder <sigh>. Might
have to do the extra work since it will be more work to open up every
single email message each time we need to check something. We must keep
the attachment; we don't need to access it vs. needing to see the
content of the email. (Why does M$ do these types of things?? There is
no gain in this loss of functionality. Unless I'm missing something
[pls, pls let it be that I'm missing something <g>])

Thanks. I really appreciate the help.

D



Try ctrl+drag or right click + drag to get attachments. It won't do
both though - you can get one or the other.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

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In O2K, if you drag an email message into the tasks folder, it
duplicates the message but also converts the original message into an
attachment within the task. Can someone advise me how to get that
behaviour back in OL2003, pls.

Thanks. D

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

Sorry, on the ctrl drag. I forgot it was r-click drag, not ctrl drag.

After dragging to the button. instead of hitting save and close, you can use
Move to folder command. Ctrl+Shift+V or File, Move to folder. Hmmm. OL2003
doesn't use an MRU list of recently used folders, so it might not be
workable for you, unless the folder is in your mailbox. (2007/2010 use an
MRU.)

--
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Just drag to the buttons on the navigation pane - it will open in the
right
form type.

I wish it would, but it doesn't. We have two tasks available, my own
and the general mailbox. I have to do the double thingie business,
drag down to the task button below and then choose the right tasks
option.

If you need the message readable and the attachment, drag it so it opens
the
form with the text in the body,. Drag the message to the open form to add
it

Yeah, but how? When I right click and drag I get 3 options, which
don't work the way they should. Either I get the whole message
bundled up, which includes the attachment (but no message text) or I
get just the text with nothing attached.

When I drag directly, I get _only_ text. No options come up at all.
Control drag doesn't change that.

as an attachment. Or just drag the attachment to the open form. You can
drag
attachments right from the reading pane to the form.

Oh, brother, double-drag??? Drag the messge one way so that I get the
text and then drag the attachment into it?

Well, if this reduced functionality in OL2003 means that that's the
only way, then that's what I'll have to do. I jsut have to really
hope that the general mailbox doesn't received very many messages on
any given day because that's going to get very old, very fast <sigh>.

Thanks!! Appreciate the help. It's good to figure out a workaround,
at any rate. We just have to have both, just like what automatically
happened in O2K days. D

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

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<sigh> Well, at least I got _half_ of the functionality back, although
with the added extra step since the Tasks are no longer accessible in
the
folder pane so can't slide directly but carefully have to right-click
and
drag to tasks icon down at bottom which opens the tasks in the
navigation
pane and then up to the tasks at the top (M$ = 1 step forward, 2 steps
backward with version changes <lol>).

Unlike O2K, although I get my original message with attachments, yes, he
body of the message doesn't also get dumped, visible below the attached
message. This means that I have to open the email each and every time I
need to consult the context email <sigh>.

Still, can't lose the attachments so have to live with the loss of the
message unless I train myself to copy the contents of the email first
before the click and drag business to the tasks folder <sigh>. Might
have
to do the extra work since it will be more work to open up every single
email message each time we need to check something. We must keep the
attachment; we don't need to access it vs. needing to see the content of
the email. (Why does M$ do these types of things?? There is no gain in
this loss of functionality. Unless I'm missing something [pls, pls let
it
be that I'm missing something <g>])

Thanks. I really appreciate the help.

D



Try ctrl+drag or right click + drag to get attachments. It won't do
both
though - you can get one or the other.

--
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In O2K, if you drag an email message into the tasks folder, it
duplicates the message but also converts the original message into an
attachment within the task. Can someone advise me how to get that
behaviour back in OL2003, pls.

Thanks. D

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

The buttons are not customizable - they go to the default mailbox only.
Move to folder is usually a better option, except Ol2003 doesn't have an MRU
list.

How did you create tasks in Outlook 2000 that you got attachments and text?
I booted a virtual machine this morning and get the same behavior as in
newer versions - text or attachment, not both. (Which was what I remembered,
but figured I'd better refresh my memory.)



--
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The option to have both attachments and text does not exist in newer
versions. You get one or the other, not both. You'll need to do it in two
steps - open the task by dragging so you have text in the body, then drag
either the message or the attachment to the now-open task.

no need to run all around the screen - just drop on the button at the
bottom.

Yeah, well, when there are more than one available tasks "folder",
that doesn't work properly. Unless there's some way to set a default,
don't see how.

The options in the bottom for the "shortcuts", or whatever they're
called, don't allow one to customize _which_ tasks the button is
connected to. (?)

I imagine that other people will have more than 2 mailboxes to deal
with, they won't be able to rely on those buttons either, I'm
guessing.

Again, unless there's something that can be done that isn't obvious?

Thanks. D

See http://www.slipstick.com/Tutorials/tasks/tasks.htm - I drop the
message
on the button. Since I want the attachments in the message included, I
either need to add the message or the attachments to the task. The insert
item button works well if the message you want to insert is at the top of
the list, otherwise, drag and drop it. Or select all or one of the
attachments in the reading pane drag to the task form. (It's easier when
your screen is bigger as you can open the windows side by side, but I
wanted
to keep the window small for the video. )

--
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Okay, I must be doing something wrong because I get either one or the
other.

Whether I choose to drag all the way down to tasks button and then all
the
way up to tasks option via the navigation pane (careful, can't let the
mouse accidentally go with all that travelling around!) or whether I
drag
directly into the tasks folder via the folder list (oh, where's my
lovely
Outlook Bar!!!!), I either get the message with the attachments stripped
or I get an attachment with the original email including its attach doct
but NO email text, unlike O2K which gave me both _and_ without the
fancy,
schmancy footwork <vbg>.

When I hold the control button down and then drag, no attachment and
just
the message. No options present; the message gets converted to a task,
stripping all the attachments.
When I right-click and then drag, only a pure attachment of the original
message appears but no view of the message itself though I do get 3
options:

1. Copy here as task with text (no attachment, _only_ the email message
with a reference to doct(s).)
2. Copy here as text with attachment - nope, only attachment, no text
whatsoever.
3. Move here as text with attachment - nope, again, only attachment.
No
text.

Yech. <g>

Perhaps there's another way of doing this where #2 actually does work
(?)

We really need to get the O2K functionality back completely. They've
given our department the responsibility of tracking all messages coming
in
to the general mailbox. We need both items since the documents they're
sending need to stay with the task yet we don't have time to be opening
each one to get the rest of the information.

Thanks once again. Really appreciate it.

D



Just drag to the buttons on the navigation pane - it will open in the
right form type.

If you need the message readable and the attachment, drag it so it
opens
the form with the text in the body,. Drag the message to the open form
to
add it as an attachment. Or just drag the attachment to the open form.
You can drag attachments right from the reading pane to the form.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

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mailto:[email protected]

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<sigh> Well, at least I got _half_ of the functionality back,
although
with the added extra step since the Tasks are no longer accessible in
the folder pane so can't slide directly but carefully have to
right-click and drag to tasks icon down at bottom which opens the
tasks
in the navigation pane and then up to the tasks at the top (M$ = 1
step
forward, 2 steps backward with version changes <lol>).

Unlike O2K, although I get my original message with attachments, yes,
he
body of the message doesn't also get dumped, visible below the
attached
message. This means that I have to open the email each and every time
I
need to consult the context email <sigh>.

Still, can't lose the attachments so have to live with the loss of the
message unless I train myself to copy the contents of the email first
before the click and drag business to the tasks folder <sigh>. Might
have to do the extra work since it will be more work to open up every
single email message each time we need to check something. We must
keep
the attachment; we don't need to access it vs. needing to see the
content of the email. (Why does M$ do these types of things?? There
is
no gain in this loss of functionality. Unless I'm missing something
[pls, pls let it be that I'm missing something <g>])

Thanks. I really appreciate the help.

D



Try ctrl+drag or right click + drag to get attachments. It won't do
both though - you can get one or the other.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

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In O2K, if you drag an email message into the tasks folder, it
duplicates the message but also converts the original message into
an
attachment within the task. Can someone advise me how to get that
behaviour back in OL2003, pls.

Thanks. D

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

How about this - open the message and use the Copy to folder command. (File,
copy to folder) - then you'll get both, just like before. Using copy to
folder from the message list won't work - it makes a copy. You need to open
the message - the last used folder is remembered in my quickie tests.

I'm still curious as to how you did it before because I can't do it with a
drag - everything I try has the same behavior in both Outlook 2000 and 2003,
I can get text or attachment, not both.

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The buttons are not customizable - they go to the default mailbox only.
Move to folder is usually a better option, except Ol2003 doesn't have an
MRU list.

How did you create tasks in Outlook 2000 that you got attachments and
text? I booted a virtual machine this morning and get the same behavior as
in newer versions - text or attachment, not both. (Which was what I
remembered, but figured I'd better refresh my memory.)



--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

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mailto:[email protected]

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The option to have both attachments and text does not exist in newer
versions. You get one or the other, not both. You'll need to do it in
two
steps - open the task by dragging so you have text in the body, then drag
either the message or the attachment to the now-open task.

no need to run all around the screen - just drop on the button at the
bottom.

Yeah, well, when there are more than one available tasks "folder",
that doesn't work properly. Unless there's some way to set a default,
don't see how.

The options in the bottom for the "shortcuts", or whatever they're
called, don't allow one to customize _which_ tasks the button is
connected to. (?)

I imagine that other people will have more than 2 mailboxes to deal
with, they won't be able to rely on those buttons either, I'm
guessing.

Again, unless there's something that can be done that isn't obvious?

Thanks. D

See http://www.slipstick.com/Tutorials/tasks/tasks.htm - I drop the
message
on the button. Since I want the attachments in the message included, I
either need to add the message or the attachments to the task. The insert
item button works well if the message you want to insert is at the top of
the list, otherwise, drag and drop it. Or select all or one of the
attachments in the reading pane drag to the task form. (It's easier when
your screen is bigger as you can open the windows side by side, but I
wanted
to keep the window small for the video. )

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

Outlook Tips by email:
mailto:[email protected]

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Poll: What version of Outlook do you use?
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Okay, I must be doing something wrong because I get either one or the
other.

Whether I choose to drag all the way down to tasks button and then all
the
way up to tasks option via the navigation pane (careful, can't let the
mouse accidentally go with all that travelling around!) or whether I
drag
directly into the tasks folder via the folder list (oh, where's my
lovely
Outlook Bar!!!!), I either get the message with the attachments
stripped
or I get an attachment with the original email including its attach
doct
but NO email text, unlike O2K which gave me both _and_ without the
fancy,
schmancy footwork <vbg>.

When I hold the control button down and then drag, no attachment and
just
the message. No options present; the message gets converted to a task,
stripping all the attachments.
When I right-click and then drag, only a pure attachment of the
original
message appears but no view of the message itself though I do get 3
options:

1. Copy here as task with text (no attachment, _only_ the email
message
with a reference to doct(s).)
2. Copy here as text with attachment - nope, only attachment, no text
whatsoever.
3. Move here as text with attachment - nope, again, only attachment.
No
text.

Yech. <g>

Perhaps there's another way of doing this where #2 actually does work
(?)

We really need to get the O2K functionality back completely. They've
given our department the responsibility of tracking all messages coming
in
to the general mailbox. We need both items since the documents they're
sending need to stay with the task yet we don't have time to be opening
each one to get the rest of the information.

Thanks once again. Really appreciate it.

D



Just drag to the buttons on the navigation pane - it will open in the
right form type.

If you need the message readable and the attachment, drag it so it
opens
the form with the text in the body,. Drag the message to the open form
to
add it as an attachment. Or just drag the attachment to the open form.
You can drag attachments right from the reading pane to the form.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

Outlook Tips by email:
mailto:[email protected]

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
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Poll: What version of Outlook do you use?
http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=27072


<sigh> Well, at least I got _half_ of the functionality back,
although
with the added extra step since the Tasks are no longer accessible in
the folder pane so can't slide directly but carefully have to
right-click and drag to tasks icon down at bottom which opens the
tasks
in the navigation pane and then up to the tasks at the top (M$ = 1
step
forward, 2 steps backward with version changes <lol>).

Unlike O2K, although I get my original message with attachments, yes,
he
body of the message doesn't also get dumped, visible below the
attached
message. This means that I have to open the email each and every
time I
need to consult the context email <sigh>.

Still, can't lose the attachments so have to live with the loss of
the
message unless I train myself to copy the contents of the email first
before the click and drag business to the tasks folder <sigh>. Might
have to do the extra work since it will be more work to open up every
single email message each time we need to check something. We must
keep
the attachment; we don't need to access it vs. needing to see the
content of the email. (Why does M$ do these types of things?? There
is
no gain in this loss of functionality. Unless I'm missing something
[pls, pls let it be that I'm missing something <g>])

Thanks. I really appreciate the help.

D



Try ctrl+drag or right click + drag to get attachments. It won't do
both though - you can get one or the other.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

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mailto:[email protected]

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In O2K, if you drag an email message into the tasks folder, it
duplicates the message but also converts the original message into
an
attachment within the task. Can someone advise me how to get that
behaviour back in OL2003, pls.

Thanks. D

 

[StargateFanWrk]

The buttons are not customizable - they go to the default mailbox only.
Move to folder is usually a better option, except Ol2003 doesn't have an
MRU list.

How did you create tasks in Outlook 2000 that you got attachments and
text? I booted a virtual machine this morning and get the same behavior as
in newer versions - text or attachment, not both. (Which was what I
remembered, but figured I'd better refresh my memory.)

Don't know. It's always been that way for me <shrug>. This is the first
time I didn't get that, so it stood out. I haven't used Outlook 2003 very
much, I've been in contracts that although they had WinXP, they all had the
old Outlook.

Currently, there's a common mailbox and the way they're asking us to handle
our respective tasks is to drag them into the tasks folder.

But your system works great. Though I have to do the navigation carefully
so that I get into the right tasks folder, and then I have to repeat the
motion a second time to get the attachment in, the end goal is reached - a
message with its attachment. So that's the main thing. I just have to get
used to this. D

--
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The option to have both attachments and text does not exist in newer
versions. You get one or the other, not both. You'll need to do it in
two
steps - open the task by dragging so you have text in the body, then drag
either the message or the attachment to the now-open task.

no need to run all around the screen - just drop on the button at the
bottom.

Yeah, well, when there are more than one available tasks "folder",
that doesn't work properly. Unless there's some way to set a default,
don't see how.

The options in the bottom for the "shortcuts", or whatever they're
called, don't allow one to customize _which_ tasks the button is
connected to. (?)

I imagine that other people will have more than 2 mailboxes to deal
with, they won't be able to rely on those buttons either, I'm
guessing.

Again, unless there's something that can be done that isn't obvious?

Thanks. D

See http://www.slipstick.com/Tutorials/tasks/tasks.htm - I drop the
message
on the button. Since I want the attachments in the message included, I
either need to add the message or the attachments to the task. The insert
item button works well if the message you want to insert is at the top of
the list, otherwise, drag and drop it. Or select all or one of the
attachments in the reading pane drag to the task form. (It's easier when
your screen is bigger as you can open the windows side by side, but I
wanted
to keep the window small for the video. )

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

Outlook Tips by email:
mailto:[email protected]

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
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Poll: What version of Outlook do you use?
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Okay, I must be doing something wrong because I get either one or the
other.

Whether I choose to drag all the way down to tasks button and then all
the
way up to tasks option via the navigation pane (careful, can't let the
mouse accidentally go with all that travelling around!) or whether I
drag
directly into the tasks folder via the folder list (oh, where's my
lovely
Outlook Bar!!!!), I either get the message with the attachments
stripped
or I get an attachment with the original email including its attach
doct
but NO email text, unlike O2K which gave me both _and_ without the
fancy,
schmancy footwork <vbg>.

When I hold the control button down and then drag, no attachment and
just
the message. No options present; the message gets converted to a task,
stripping all the attachments.
When I right-click and then drag, only a pure attachment of the
original
message appears but no view of the message itself though I do get 3
options:

1. Copy here as task with text (no attachment, _only_ the email
message
with a reference to doct(s).)
2. Copy here as text with attachment - nope, only attachment, no text
whatsoever.
3. Move here as text with attachment - nope, again, only attachment.
No
text.

Yech. <g>

Perhaps there's another way of doing this where #2 actually does work
(?)

We really need to get the O2K functionality back completely. They've
given our department the responsibility of tracking all messages coming
in
to the general mailbox. We need both items since the documents they're
sending need to stay with the task yet we don't have time to be opening
each one to get the rest of the information.

Thanks once again. Really appreciate it.

D



Just drag to the buttons on the navigation pane - it will open in the
right form type.

If you need the message readable and the attachment, drag it so it
opens
the form with the text in the body,. Drag the message to the open form
to
add it as an attachment. Or just drag the attachment to the open form.
You can drag attachments right from the reading pane to the form.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

Outlook Tips by email:
mailto:[email protected]

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
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Poll: What version of Outlook do you use?
http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=27072


<sigh> Well, at least I got _half_ of the functionality back,
although
with the added extra step since the Tasks are no longer accessible in
the folder pane so can't slide directly but carefully have to
right-click and drag to tasks icon down at bottom which opens the
tasks
in the navigation pane and then up to the tasks at the top (M$ = 1
step
forward, 2 steps backward with version changes <lol>).

Unlike O2K, although I get my original message with attachments, yes,
he
body of the message doesn't also get dumped, visible below the
attached
message. This means that I have to open the email each and every
time I
need to consult the context email <sigh>.

Still, can't lose the attachments so have to live with the loss of
the
message unless I train myself to copy the contents of the email first
before the click and drag business to the tasks folder <sigh>. Might
have to do the extra work since it will be more work to open up every
single email message each time we need to check something. We must
keep
the attachment; we don't need to access it vs. needing to see the
content of the email. (Why does M$ do these types of things?? There
is
no gain in this loss of functionality. Unless I'm missing something
[pls, pls let it be that I'm missing something <g>])

Thanks. I really appreciate the help.

D



Try ctrl+drag or right click + drag to get attachments. It won't do
both though - you can get one or the other.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

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mailto:[email protected]

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In O2K, if you drag an email message into the tasks folder, it
duplicates the message but also converts the original message into
an
attachment within the task. Can someone advise me how to get that
behaviour back in OL2003, pls.

Thanks. D

 

[StargateFanWrk]

Sorry, on the ctrl drag. I forgot it was r-click drag, not ctrl drag.

After dragging to the button. instead of hitting save and close, you can
use Move to folder command. Ctrl+Shift+V or File, Move to folder. Hmmm.
OL2003 doesn't use an MRU list of recently used folders, so it might not
be workable for you, unless the folder is in your mailbox. (2007/2010 use
an MRU.)

No worries <g>.

I'll have to check this out. Thanks. D

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Just drag to the buttons on the navigation pane - it will open in the
right
form type.

I wish it would, but it doesn't. We have two tasks available, my own
and the general mailbox. I have to do the double thingie business,
drag down to the task button below and then choose the right tasks
option.

If you need the message readable and the attachment, drag it so it opens
the
form with the text in the body,. Drag the message to the open form to add
it

Yeah, but how? When I right click and drag I get 3 options, which
don't work the way they should. Either I get the whole message
bundled up, which includes the attachment (but no message text) or I
get just the text with nothing attached.

When I drag directly, I get _only_ text. No options come up at all.
Control drag doesn't change that.

as an attachment. Or just drag the attachment to the open form. You can
drag
attachments right from the reading pane to the form.

Oh, brother, double-drag??? Drag the messge one way so that I get the
text and then drag the attachment into it?

Well, if this reduced functionality in OL2003 means that that's the
only way, then that's what I'll have to do. I jsut have to really
hope that the general mailbox doesn't received very many messages on
any given day because that's going to get very old, very fast <sigh>.

Thanks!! Appreciate the help. It's good to figure out a workaround,
at any rate. We just have to have both, just like what automatically
happened in O2K days. D

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<sigh> Well, at least I got _half_ of the functionality back, although
with the added extra step since the Tasks are no longer accessible in
the
folder pane so can't slide directly but carefully have to right-click
and
drag to tasks icon down at bottom which opens the tasks in the
navigation
pane and then up to the tasks at the top (M$ = 1 step forward, 2 steps
backward with version changes <lol>).

Unlike O2K, although I get my original message with attachments, yes,
he
body of the message doesn't also get dumped, visible below the attached
message. This means that I have to open the email each and every time
I
need to consult the context email <sigh>.

Still, can't lose the attachments so have to live with the loss of the
message unless I train myself to copy the contents of the email first
before the click and drag business to the tasks folder <sigh>. Might
have
to do the extra work since it will be more work to open up every single
email message each time we need to check something. We must keep the
attachment; we don't need to access it vs. needing to see the content
of
the email. (Why does M$ do these types of things?? There is no gain in
this loss of functionality. Unless I'm missing something [pls, pls let
it
be that I'm missing something <g>])

Thanks. I really appreciate the help.

D



Try ctrl+drag or right click + drag to get attachments. It won't do
both
though - you can get one or the other.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

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mailto:[email protected]

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In O2K, if you drag an email message into the tasks folder, it
duplicates the message but also converts the original message into an
attachment within the task. Can someone advise me how to get that
behaviour back in OL2003, pls.

Thanks. D