ON file not working off a file server

[Fergus]

I'm still trying to tget to the bottom of this, but it appears to be to do
with the caching of files.

My ON files are on the server, but when I try to open them directly on the
server (from a wks) I get the old problem with it asking for a password,
even though there is none (indicative of cache/offline files problems).

If I copy them onto the wks, I can open them fine, however.

I've cleared the cache on the wks. What the h5ll else is there to do? This
thing drives me nuts!

Cheers,

Ferg.

 

[Ilya Koulchin]

My ON files are on the server, but when I try to open them directly on the
server (from a wks) I get the old problem with it asking for a password,
even though there is none (indicative of cache/offline files problems).

Do you by any chance have a web server running on the same server? If
so, go to windows update and install the latest updates for
Office/OneNote. There was a bug that was recently fixed that was causing
OneNote to fail opening notebooks on servers that also have a web server
running.

Ilya

 

[Fergus]

Aaaah?? Tell me it's not true! They actually managed to fix that problem,
finally?? ;-)
Yes, it's an Exchange server also, so suffers from that problem.

However, ON is totally up to date. I'm trying to find mention of such an
update for ON, but I'm finding only forum discussions where you say "one is
coming soon".

I try this 'workaround' where you open the URL instead (I've published the
My Notebook folder in IIS now) but it tells me "The folder 'http://server/my
notebook' isn't accessible. The folder may be located in an unavailable
location, protected with a password, or the filename contains a \ or /."

Thanks for your help Ilya.

Ferg.

 

[Rainald Taesler]

Do you by any chance have a web server running on the same server?
If so, go to windows update and install the latest updates for
Office/OneNote. There was a bug that was recently fixed that was
causing OneNote to fail opening notebooks on servers that also have
a web server running.

Most interesting!
Is there an update which fixes things in OneNote?
When did it appear?

Any further information on this in any blog or so?

TIA
Rainald

 

[Ilya Koulchin]

Is there an update which fixes things in OneNote?
When did it appear?

The update was released this past Tuesday. It has a security fix in it,
so it is listed as a security update, but it also includes a number of
SharePoint performance updates and some bug fixes.

Any further information on this in any blog or so?

I don't think there is a blog entry, but you should be able to find the
information if you search for the KB number (sorry, don't have it handy)
on Microsoft's support site.

Ilya

 

[Rainald Taesler]

The update was released this past Tuesday. It has a security fix in
it, so it is listed as a security update, but it also includes a
number of SharePoint performance updates and some bug fixes.

Thanks a lot for the info, Ilya.
I meanwhile had checked the list of updates and the thing in question is
already installed.
A double click on the list of installed update brought up a msgbox with
the info.
For the lurkers:
It's KB950130.

I don't think there is a blog entry, but you should be able to find
the information if you search for the KB number (sorry, don't have
it handy) on Microsoft's support site.

IMO it would be nice if such things for ON might be announced in
here -the more as the ON-related are not shown on the Office homepage
:-(

Thanks again for your support
Rainald

 

[Rainald Taesler]

The update was released this past Tuesday. It has a security fix in
it, so it is listed as a security update, but it also includes a
number of SharePoint performance updates and some bug fixes.

Thanks a lot for the info, Ilya!
Good to hear that possibly some of the oddities with storage of
ON-notebooks on devices connected over the internet might be a thing of
the past.
Let's watch the postings complaining about problems ;-)

Any further information on this in any blog or so?

I don't think there is a blog entry, but you should be able to find
the information if you search for the KB number (sorry, don't have
it handy) on Microsoft's support site. *]

I had meanwhile checked the updates.
The update history on my main machine shows 13 updates installed
yesterday and the day before yesterday.

Among them - besides some "Office" updates and several things for
Vista - there was a "Security Update for Microsoft OneNote (KB950130)".
I guess that's it.
Double-clicking on it opens a MsgBox referring to a security issue and
pointing to
"Security Update for Microsoft Office OneNote 2007 (KB950130)"
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...6C-7873-4AC6-8BBC-033F6A7BB395&displaylang=de

The KB-article says hardly anything.
Still I'd hope that the storage problems (files read-only etc., etc.)
might be fixed with that.

Thanks again, dear Ilya, for telling us.

Rainald
*] Easy enough to see the KB number: As said above, just double-clicking
on the entry in the list of installed updates reveals the info <g>
P.S. It would be very nice if the ON-community in the future might be
given information about patches and/or other updates by an announcement
*in*here* (this NG) - the more as
(a) announcements on such updates are not to be found on the MS Office
homepage,
(b) important changes might have happened (so in the case of storage on
web-devices) and
(c) quite some folks are afraid of installing updates due to
SendToOneNote-printer problems and the general impression that updates
might be the cause of the problems.

 

[Fergus]

Yesh, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950130 clearly states the issue on
David Rasmussen's blog about it.
I'll check whether I have that update on the laptop......
Thanks Ilya.

The update was released this past Tuesday. It has a security fix in
it, so it is listed as a security update, but it also includes a
number of SharePoint performance updates and some bug fixes.

Thanks a lot for the info, Ilya!
Good to hear that possibly some of the oddities with storage of
ON-notebooks on devices connected over the internet might be a thing of
the past.
Let's watch the postings complaining about problems ;-)

Any further information on this in any blog or so?

I don't think there is a blog entry, but you should be able to find
the information if you search for the KB number (sorry, don't have
it handy) on Microsoft's support site. *]

I had meanwhile checked the updates.
The update history on my main machine shows 13 updates installed
yesterday and the day before yesterday.

Among them - besides some "Office" updates and several things for
Vista - there was a "Security Update for Microsoft OneNote (KB950130)".
I guess that's it.
Double-clicking on it opens a MsgBox referring to a security issue and
pointing to
"Security Update for Microsoft Office OneNote 2007 (KB950130)"
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...6C-7873-4AC6-8BBC-033F6A7BB395&displaylang=de

The KB-article says hardly anything.
Still I'd hope that the storage problems (files read-only etc., etc.)
might be fixed with that.

Thanks again, dear Ilya, for telling us.

Rainald
*] Easy enough to see the KB number: As said above, just double-clicking
on the entry in the list of installed updates reveals the info <g>
P.S. It would be very nice if the ON-community in the future might be
given information about patches and/or other updates by an announcement
*in*here* (this NG) - the more as
(a) announcements on such updates are not to be found on the MS Office
homepage,
(b) important changes might have happened (so in the case of storage on
web-devices) and
(c) quite some folks are afraid of installing updates due to
SendToOneNote-printer problems and the general impression that updates
might be the cause of the problems.

 

[Fergus]

Okay, this is getting ridiculous.
Even when MS say they've fixed something, they fkn haven't.
Have tried on both my Vista SP1 laptop and XP workstation (both with the
patch mentioned below) and they both still cannot create a new notebook on
my server (which is a file- and Exchange 2007 server).

When I try to create the notebook, it says "OneNote cannot create a new
notebook at: http://server/share/blahblah" which seems to be the exact
problem this fix is to address (among others).

Has anyone else got it working?

Fergus.

Yesh, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950130 clearly states the issue on
David Rasmussen's blog about it.
I'll check whether I have that update on the laptop......
Thanks Ilya.

Rainald Taesler wrote:
Is there an update which fixes things in OneNote?
When did it appear?

The update was released this past Tuesday. It has a security fix in
it, so it is listed as a security update, but it also includes a
number of SharePoint performance updates and some bug fixes.

Thanks a lot for the info, Ilya!
Good to hear that possibly some of the oddities with storage of
ON-notebooks on devices connected over the internet might be a thing of
the past.
Let's watch the postings complaining about problems ;-)

Any further information on this in any blog or so?

I don't think there is a blog entry, but you should be able to find
the information if you search for the KB number (sorry, don't have
it handy) on Microsoft's support site. *]

I had meanwhile checked the updates.
The update history on my main machine shows 13 updates installed
yesterday and the day before yesterday.

Among them - besides some "Office" updates and several things for
Vista - there was a "Security Update for Microsoft OneNote (KB950130)".
I guess that's it.
Double-clicking on it opens a MsgBox referring to a security issue and
pointing to
"Security Update for Microsoft Office OneNote 2007 (KB950130)"
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...6C-7873-4AC6-8BBC-033F6A7BB395&displaylang=de

The KB-article says hardly anything.
Still I'd hope that the storage problems (files read-only etc., etc.)
might be fixed with that.

Thanks again, dear Ilya, for telling us.

Rainald
*] Easy enough to see the KB number: As said above, just double-clicking
on the entry in the list of installed updates reveals the info <g>
P.S. It would be very nice if the ON-community in the future might be
given information about patches and/or other updates by an announcement
*in*here* (this NG) - the more as
(a) announcements on such updates are not to be found on the MS Office
homepage,
(b) important changes might have happened (so in the case of storage on
web-devices) and
(c) quite some folks are afraid of installing updates due to
SendToOneNote-printer problems and the general impression that updates
might be the cause of the problems.

 

[Fergus]

Well this thread seems to have been abandoned by everyone except me, so I'll
talk to myself and anyone else reading this with a similar problem.

I have put these ON files into a folder on a mapped drive on which I also
make offline copies of some of the folders (obviously not the ON folders or
any containing these folders). It doesn't let me open them if I do that.
However, if I put them onto a completely different folder that it accessed
through the e$ share, it works happily and has that little green tick in the
corner.

So it seems if you enable offline folders of any sort through the same
mapped drive on whcih your ON files are, it won't work.

I'm probably saying something you all already know, but at least I've just
realised it. Woohoo!

Ferg.

Okay, this is getting ridiculous.
Even when MS say they've fixed something, they fkn haven't.
Have tried on both my Vista SP1 laptop and XP workstation (both with the
patch mentioned below) and they both still cannot create a new notebook on
my server (which is a file- and Exchange 2007 server).

When I try to create the notebook, it says "OneNote cannot create a new
notebook at: http://server/share/blahblah" which seems to be the exact
problem this fix is to address (among others).

Has anyone else got it working?

Fergus.

Yesh, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950130 clearly states the issue on
David Rasmussen's blog about it.
I'll check whether I have that update on the laptop......
Thanks Ilya.

Ilya Koulchin wrote:

Rainald Taesler wrote:
Is there an update which fixes things in OneNote?
When did it appear?

The update was released this past Tuesday. It has a security fix in
it, so it is listed as a security update, but it also includes a
number of SharePoint performance updates and some bug fixes.

Thanks a lot for the info, Ilya!
Good to hear that possibly some of the oddities with storage of
ON-notebooks on devices connected over the internet might be a thing of
the past.
Let's watch the postings complaining about problems ;-)

Any further information on this in any blog or so?

I don't think there is a blog entry, but you should be able to find
the information if you search for the KB number (sorry, don't have
it handy) on Microsoft's support site. *]

I had meanwhile checked the updates.
The update history on my main machine shows 13 updates installed
yesterday and the day before yesterday.

Among them - besides some "Office" updates and several things for
Vista - there was a "Security Update for Microsoft OneNote (KB950130)".
I guess that's it.
Double-clicking on it opens a MsgBox referring to a security issue and
pointing to
"Security Update for Microsoft Office OneNote 2007 (KB950130)"
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...6C-7873-4AC6-8BBC-033F6A7BB395&displaylang=de

The KB-article says hardly anything.
Still I'd hope that the storage problems (files read-only etc., etc.)
might be fixed with that.

Thanks again, dear Ilya, for telling us.

Rainald
*] Easy enough to see the KB number: As said above, just double-clicking
on the entry in the list of installed updates reveals the info <g>
P.S. It would be very nice if the ON-community in the future might be
given information about patches and/or other updates by an announcement
*in*here* (this NG) - the more as
(a) announcements on such updates are not to be found on the MS Office
homepage,
(b) important changes might have happened (so in the case of storage on
web-devices) and
(c) quite some folks are afraid of installing updates due to
SendToOneNote-printer problems and the general impression that updates
might be the cause of the problems.

 

[Ben M. Schorr - MVP (OneNote)]

For what it's worth, I've found that we get much better performance when
we open the files by addressing the server directly instead of using
mapped shares.

Instead of:

O:\notebook.one

We use:

\\192.168.1.2\share\notebook.one

And it seems both more reliable and noticeably faster; even though the
notebook.one file is in the exact same place on the server.

--
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
http://www.officeforlawyers.com
Author - The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Outlook 2007:
http://tinyurl.com/5m3f5q

Well this thread seems to have been abandoned by everyone except me, so I'll
talk to myself and anyone else reading this with a similar problem.

I have put these ON files into a folder on a mapped drive on which I also
make offline copies of some of the folders (obviously not the ON folders or
any containing these folders). It doesn't let me open them if I do that.
However, if I put them onto a completely different folder that it accessed
through the e$ share, it works happily and has that little green tick in the
corner.

So it seems if you enable offline folders of any sort through the same
mapped drive on whcih your ON files are, it won't work.

I'm probably saying something you all already know, but at least I've just
realised it. Woohoo!

Ferg.

Okay, this is getting ridiculous.
Even when MS say they've fixed something, they fkn haven't.
Have tried on both my Vista SP1 laptop and XP workstation (both with the
patch mentioned below) and they both still cannot create a new notebook on
my server (which is a file- and Exchange 2007 server).

When I try to create the notebook, it says "OneNote cannot create a new
notebook at: http://server/share/blahblah" which seems to be the exact
problem this fix is to address (among others).

Has anyone else got it working?

Fergus.

Yesh, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950130 clearly states the issue on
David Rasmussen's blog about it.
I'll check whether I have that update on the laptop......
Thanks Ilya.


Ilya Koulchin wrote:

Rainald Taesler wrote:
Is there an update which fixes things in OneNote?
When did it appear?

The update was released this past Tuesday. It has a security fix in
it, so it is listed as a security update, but it also includes a
number of SharePoint performance updates and some bug fixes.

Thanks a lot for the info, Ilya!
Good to hear that possibly some of the oddities with storage of
ON-notebooks on devices connected over the internet might be a thing of
the past.
Let's watch the postings complaining about problems ;-)

Any further information on this in any blog or so?

I don't think there is a blog entry, but you should be able to find
the information if you search for the KB number (sorry, don't have
it handy) on Microsoft's support site. *]

I had meanwhile checked the updates.
The update history on my main machine shows 13 updates installed
yesterday and the day before yesterday.

Among them - besides some "Office" updates and several things for
Vista - there was a "Security Update for Microsoft OneNote (KB950130)".
I guess that's it.
Double-clicking on it opens a MsgBox referring to a security issue and
pointing to
"Security Update for Microsoft Office OneNote 2007 (KB950130)"
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...6C-7873-4AC6-8BBC-033F6A7BB395&displaylang=de

The KB-article says hardly anything.
Still I'd hope that the storage problems (files read-only etc., etc.)
might be fixed with that.

Thanks again, dear Ilya, for telling us.

Rainald
*] Easy enough to see the KB number: As said above, just double-clicking
on the entry in the list of installed updates reveals the info <g>
P.S. It would be very nice if the ON-community in the future might be
given information about patches and/or other updates by an announcement
*in*here* (this NG) - the more as
(a) announcements on such updates are not to be found on the MS Office
homepage,
(b) important changes might have happened (so in the case of storage on
web-devices) and
(c) quite some folks are afraid of installing updates due to
SendToOneNote-printer problems and the general impression that updates
might be the cause of the problems.