OneNote 14

[moqpr]

Hi,

Anybody know when OneNote 14 will be out please?

Will there be a beta version that we can get beforehand?

Please let me know.

Thanks

Mo

 

[minimus]

Through the end of 2009.

 

[moqpr]

Brilliant, Thanks Minimus, I can't wait for that!

 

[Steve Silverwood]

Hi,

Anybody know when OneNote 14 will be out please?

Will there be a beta version that we can get beforehand?

Please let me know.

Microsoft's been saying "second half of 2009" but no bets. They're
working more and more on getting it right the first time, rather than
living by the old adage, "There's never enough time to do it right,
but there's always enough time to do it over."

Ashton-Tate tried to do it the old way with dBASE IV -- when was the
last time you heard of Ashton-Tate?

//Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Email: (e-mail address removed)
Web: http://kb6ojs.com

 

[minimus]

"There's never enough time to do it right, but there's always enough time

to do it over."

Alhtough this is a fact for many of the jobs is varying industries, at
microsoft this is a major problem I think.
There is no ms operating system which has been completed fully before a new
version arrived.

xp became reliable, but old.
vista becomes reliable but vista 7 comes...

 

[John Waller]

There is no ms operating system which has been completed fully before aversion arrived.

You can apply the same argument to Linux and OSX.

 

[minimus]

You can apply the same argument to Linux and OSX.

Can I?
Do linux users also complain about the os as the ms users do?

 

[Steve Thackery]

Do linux users also complain about the os as the ms users do?

No, of course not, but that's because they are in a tiny minority and prone
to being very defensive about their favourite OS. They like to pretend that
it's virtually perfect - admitting any weakness is a no-no.

Same story with Mac users. One thing you can be sure of: if Apple had the
dominant position in the market that Microsoft has, Mac OSX would be roundly
criticised exactly as Vista is criticised now.

SteveT

 

[Ilya Koulchin]

This whole argument about various OS's "being complete" or favorites or
whatever is completely off-topic for this newsgroup. If you wish to
continue it, please do so in an appropriate newsgroup or via email.

Ilya

 

[minimus]

to being very defensive about their favourite OS. They like to pretend

that it's virtually perfect - admitting any weakness is a no-no.

Thats also true.

Same story with Mac users. One thing you can be sure of: if Apple had the
dominant position in the market that Microsoft has, Mac OSX would be
roundly criticised exactly as Vista is criticised now.

Maybe you are right. But it is hard to justify eother case.

 

[Rainald Taesler]

Microsoft's been saying "second half of 2009" but no bets. They're
working more and more on getting it right the first time, rather
than living by the old adage, "There's never enough time to do it
right, but there's always enough time to do it over."

Only too true!
Let's hope MS might not follow the old device to again deliver
"banana-soft"
(picked to early,
delivered green,
let it ripe at the clients')

Ashton-Tate tried to do it the old way with dBASE IV -- when was the
last time you heard of Ashton-Tate?

If we are dBASE: Not only Ashton-Tate. Borland followed their footsteps.
It was really bad with "dBASE for Windows 5.0" and even far worse than
that with VdB 7.0 where a new CEO pushed a product out of the house
which was anything but ready for usage :-( :-(

Rainald

 

[Steve Thackery]

This whole argument about various OS's "being complete" or favorites or

whatever is completely off-topic for this newsgroup. If you wish to
continue it, please do so in an appropriate newsgroup or via email.

So you're a moderator now, are you?

SteveT

 

[Erik Sojka (MVP)]

The group is self moderated. Ilya is correct that an OS flamewar is off
topic.

 

[Steve Thackery]

The group is self moderated. Ilya is correct that an OS flamewar is off

topic.

Actually, I quite agree.

SteveT

 

[Rainald Taesler]

Actually, I quite agree.

Mee too.

Rainald

 

[alternative]

Yes, but unfortunatly for all Microsoft people, every Microsoft product comes
with around 15 years of OS and in my case some years less Office experience.
You cannot shake this. All the Vista lets say stir up doesn't help OneNote.
And it comes down to money or time. Linux software doesn't cost money, but
time. Microsoft wants money, I am relucant to give time. And a real
difference is, in Linux, if I don't find news of a software in blogs for
about a year I take it that it is dying, but I do not find a lot of recent
stuff in the OneNote blogs, which actually makes the Linux user in me squirm,
and I ask myself why ? I happily use everything that gets the job done, but
I see the difference in culture and sometimes a little more Linux (small
incremental steps, but never loose momentum) in MS wouldn't be a bad thing.
Linux could use some changes too, but that would be off-topic.
By the way, why is information on the net about the OneNote API so scarce
and mostly over a year old? Also a thing that the Linux user in me doesn't
understand.
To go to the topic again, good to know that no blogpostings doesn't mean
that, if I buy OneNote now (I am on trial), it will be obsolete in the next
month. And MS will not drop the software, hurray ! Hopefully they will keep
the API too.

 

[Ben M. Schorr - MVP (OneNote)]

By the way, why is information on the net about the OneNote API so
scarce

and mostly over a year old? Also a thing that the Linux user in me doesn't
understand.

Probably because the API itself is not really that extensive (especially
compared to its Office Suite cousins) so there isn't an awful lot to
talk about.

To go to the topic again, good to know that no blogpostings doesn't mean
that, if I buy OneNote now (I am on trial), it will be obsolete in the next
month. And MS will not drop the software, hurray ! Hopefully they will keep
the API too.

Not to worry, the application (and the API) will be carrying on.


-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
http://www.officeforlawyers.com
Author - The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Outlook 2007:
http://tinyurl.com/5m3f5q

 

[scoobie]

Probably because the API itself is not really that extensive (especially
compared to its Office Suite cousins) so there isn't an awful lot to
talk about.


Not to worry, the application (and the API) will be carrying on.

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP
Roland Schorr & Towerhttp://www.rolandschorr.comhttp://www.officeforlawyers.com
Author - The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Outlook 2007:http://tinyurl.com/5m3f5q

I'm sure I've read that the new OfficeLive version of Onenote 2009
will be out in beta later this year

 

[Steve Silverwood]

Now THAT will be something interesting indeed to try out!!