OneNote needs to Support Embedded Objects (like all other Office Apps)

[EMRhelp.org]

http://home.cogeco.ca/~epiphany/onenote.windows.explorer.directory.view.jpg

This is an example of how MS should tie in the Windows directory
structure into OneNote.

 

[Ben M. Schorr - MVP]

Why would I want to do that when I can press Windows Key + E any time I want
to and get a full window with my Windows Directory structure in it?


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-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, OneNote-MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
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[John Waller]

How would you use it practically?

 

[EMRhelp.org]

Q;How would you use it practically?

A: I have 1500 clients and I want to put all the client's files in
their section.

 

[Ben M. Schorr - MVP]

I still don't see how it's any better to have that window in OneNote instead
of just using Windows Explorer (which is already designed for exactly that
purpose) to do it.


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-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, OneNote-MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
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[EMRhelp.org]

Ben are you really kidding me ?
You can't see a time benefit in linking files and folders from OneNote
to the File System ?
You think clicking around in Windows Explorer is fast enough ?

Here is another user looking for something similar:

Lindsay V
Nov 11
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.onenote

Although linking to pages in One Note would be helpful, at least for
me, a
more helpful linking feature would be for me to be able to link to
external
files (of any format) and/or be able to "drop" the file into the folder
and
have the file stored in the folder in the One Note directory with an
icon in
the One Note screen that would allow me to open the file with its
respective
program.
I use One Note for tracking my class notes and homework, and currently
am
forced to maintain two file structures; one in One Note with all my
class
notes and a connected one with teacher handouts, lecture notes, and
homework,
as well as scanned in tests. Sometimes it is confusing to figure out
what
files go with what notes, and so being able to directly link them would
make
a huge difference.

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Bottom Line: The lack of integration between the Windows File System
and OneNote is a HUGE gap. The bitter irony is that is seems geared to
easily setting it up. OneNote already uses Windows Folders for OneNote
"Folders". When you create a new folder in OneNote, a corresponding
Folder is created in Windows Explorer. The crudest integration of
OneNote<--> filesystem would be to be able to right click on the Folder
tab and have an option "Open Windows Explorer here" Chris et al. is
really missing the Information Workers needs if they can't see that
everyone wants these features.

 

[Ben M. Schorr - MVP]

Ben are you really kidding me ?

No, funny though it is.

You can't see a time benefit in linking files and folders from OneNote
to the File System ?

You can already link files from OneNote. More robust hyperlinking is coming
in the next version.

You think clicking around in Windows Explorer is fast enough ?
Yes.

Although linking to pages in One Note would be helpful, at least for
me, a more helpful linking feature would be for me to be able to link to
external files (of any format) and/or be able to "drop" the file into the
folder
and have the file stored in the folder in the One Note directory with an
icon in the One Note screen that would allow me to open the file with its
respective program.

They can already do that.

============================================================

Bottom Line: The lack of integration between the Windows File System
and OneNote is a HUGE gap.

I disagree.

The bitter irony is that is seems geared to
easily setting it up. OneNote already uses Windows Folders for OneNote
"Folders". When you create a new folder in OneNote, a corresponding
Folder is created in Windows Explorer. The crudest integration of
OneNote<--> filesystem would be to be able to right click on the Folder
tab and have an option "Open Windows Explorer here"

Maybe someday they'll do that. In the meantime a user can get to the My
Notebook folder with one combo keypress and two clicks.

Chris et al. is
really missing the Information Workers needs if they can't see that
everyone wants these features.

You claim to want those features. Lindsay seems to want something she can
already do.


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Aloha,

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, OneNote-MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm

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[EMRhelp.org]

For your sake Ben I hope OneNote 2.0 is just a stability release, with
no new features. This would affirm your belief that OneNote 1 is a
complete and killer app and that all the people that struggle to make
it useful are just idiots.

Tablet PCs can bring computers where they were unable to go before. In
essence, they can change how people learn and how society functions.
Imagine a student who's uses a computer for everything the do in
school. All the things they learn are there on their computer for
retrieval and re-learning. What if a program was developed to analyze
mistakes and guide the learner to a better understanding ? A laptop
would never fit the bill here. A TPC could.

The Tablet PC needs a killer app. OneNote, I assume, was supposed to
be that app. It isn't.

I eagerly await OneNote 2.0.

 

[Chris H.]

Not Ben, but no one has ever stated OneNote is "complete." What we have
said is OneNote is what it is at this point. You're the one who has
repeatedly posted it is a just "note-taking" program. That's exactly how it
was designed, and not anything else. Hence the product name, OneNote.

Some people are fully satisfied with Outlook Express for reading newsgroups,
and others use Agent, for instance. There's nothing wrong with either one,
but they are a personal preference. Agent, like OE, did not begin as they
are now, they evolved. I'm sure OneNote will do the same.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -

 

[Ben M. Schorr - MVP]

For your sake Ben I hope OneNote 2.0 is just a stability release, with
no new features.

I'm sure you do, but I'm afraid you're going to be disappointed in this
case.

This would affirm your belief that OneNote 1 is a
complete and killer app and that all the people that struggle to make
it useful are just idiots.

That's not my belief at all.

Tablet PCs can bring computers where they were unable to go before. In
essence, they can change how people learn and how society functions.
Imagine a student who's uses a computer for everything the do in
school.

I don't have to imagine it.

All the things they learn are there on their computer for
retrieval and re-learning. What if a program was developed to analyze
mistakes and guide the learner to a better understanding ?

That program would not be OneNote. OneNote is very good at what it was
intended to do, and it continues to get better at that. Analyzing mistakes
and organizing the Windows file system are two things it was not intended to
do.

A laptop
would never fit the bill here. A TPC could.

That depends upon the physical environment of the learner.

The Tablet PC needs a killer app. OneNote, I assume, was supposed to
be that app. It isn't.

In your opinion. In our company every one of our field personnel was issued
Tablet PCs and OneNote was a big part of the reason why. We find it
extremely useful as do a growing number of our clients. Even those without
Tablet PCs.

I eagerly await OneNote 2.0.

If you say so.


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Aloha,

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, OneNote-MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm

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[EMRhelp.org]

I hope Microsoft pays you well for all your PR.

 

[Erik Sojka (MVP)]

My gold-encrusted pony was a nice present.

/kidding. None of us here (those who aren't MS employees) get paid to
participate in this forum. Believe it or not, we like the program and want
otherstolearn how to use it better.

 

[Todd]

The Tablet PC needs a killer app. OneNote, I assume, was supposed to

be that app. It isn't.

Just wanted to add that this has been mentioned/discussed/ranted about
already... and addressed by Chris Pratley a while ago: OneNote was
never developed as a Tablet PC (specific) application.

I do agree that the Tablet PC needs a killer app. There has been
discussion on that on a few blogs already also. The problem with this,
of course, is that my killer app may not be yours.

 

[Steve Silverwood]

The Tablet PC needs a killer app. OneNote, I assume, was supposed to
be that app. It isn't.

Just for the record:

Although I'm not a Tablet PC user, in my opinion OneNote IS a "killer
app" in many ways. There is only one Office component on my system that
I use more often than OneNote, and that's Outlook. OneNote is great for
taking notes and organizing information, not only for recording current
info but for keeping reference information -- procedures, usage tips,
pretty much anything I use daily -- organized in a way that makes it
easy to find when needed.

That's not to say that there is no need for improvement. There are some
things which OneNote lacks, as has been discussed extensively here.
However, given that OneNote is a "1.0" application, I think the folks at
Microsoft have done a great job with this initial release based on the
scope of the initial product specification. That spec has of course
changed as the product has gotten into the hands of more and more people
who have found innovative ways to use it -- ways which the initial
product designers and developers didn't initially foreseee.

In short, I'm very happy with the version I have in my hands right now,
but I am also looking forward to some great new features (not just in
OneNote but in ALL of the Office suite of applications) coming down the
pipe next year with the Office 12 release.

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-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email: (e-mail address removed)

 

[EMRhelp.org]

Steve Silverwood wrote:
OneNote is great for taking notes and organizing information, not only for recording current
info but for keeping reference information -- procedures, usage tips,
pretty much anything I use daily -- organized in a way that makes it
easy to find when needed.

The vagueries of this statement preclude any meaning.
If you think OneNote is the pinnacle of reference information tools,
your standards are low. Or you haven't tried any other meaningful
competitors.