Opening '97 Binder Files in XP

[Nancy P.]

New computer with XP Media Center 2005. There is a trial version of student
version Office 2003 installed. I want to continue using my Office 97 Pro
software - especially a geat number of Binder files. I installed Office97 -
first in a separate folder \Office 97 directory. Then tried uninstalling the
trial Office version and installing Office 97 in its default directory.
Either way when I attempt to open my Binder files I get error saying "Office
Binder cannot locate the program that was used to create this section."
Previous posts seem to indicate that if I install Binder from my '97 Office
disk I should be able to access my files. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
Thanks.
Nancy

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

If you want to install and use more than one version of Office
on the same computer, you must install the earliest version first.
This means you'll need to uninstall both Office 2003 and Office 97,
then install Office 97, then install the Office 97 updates, beginning
with Office 97 SR-2b.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/828956

Office 97 Updates
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/downloads/CD010226191033.aspx

Frequently asked questions about Office Binder 97
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/843147

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Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

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| New computer with XP Media Center 2005. There is a trial version of student
| version Office 2003 installed. I want to continue using my Office 97 Pro
| software - especially a geat number of Binder files. I installed Office97 -
| first in a separate folder \Office 97 directory. Then tried uninstalling the
| trial Office version and installing Office 97 in its default directory.
| Either way when I attempt to open my Binder files I get error saying "Office
| Binder cannot locate the program that was used to create this section."
| Previous posts seem to indicate that if I install Binder from my '97 Office
| disk I should be able to access my files. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
| Thanks.
| Nancy
| --
| Nancy P.

 

[Nancy P.]

I only want to run Office 97 on my system. When I uninstall the trial version
of Office 2003, it leaves the subdirectories for Microsoft Office under
C:\Programs. Should I erase the Microsoft Office directory and subdirectories
before I install '97 ? Do I also need to uninstall Microsoft One Note?
Thanks for your help - this is driving me nuts!

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

Q. "Should I erase the Microsoft Office directory and subdirectories
before I install '97 ? Do I also need to uninstall Microsoft One Note?"

A. Yes.


--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

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| I only want to run Office 97 on my system. When I uninstall the trial version
| of Office 2003, it leaves the subdirectories for Microsoft Office under
| C:\Programs. Should I erase the Microsoft Office directory and subdirectories
| before I install '97 ? Do I also need to uninstall Microsoft One Note?
| Thanks for your help - this is driving me nuts!
| --
| Nancy P.

 

[Nancy P.]

When you say "then install Office 97 updates beginning with SR-2b", do I
ignore all the updates dated prior to SR-2b - there are 6 or 7 earlier fixes
- and only use updates SR-2b and later? Or do I download all of them? Don't
you just love us "novices?" Thanks for all your help. I'm never upgrading
again

 

[Nancy P.]

Frustrated! Did all suggested. Have only Office '97 on system. Downloaded
and installed updates. Binder opens but does not give you the option of
adding a file from scanner as it normally does. It lists all kinds of "audio
.... moniker class", "video ... moniker class" file types, but nothing for a
scanned image. And it still says it can't find the program that created my
old "binder.obd" files made with this very program. I understand this could
be a problem if I was running a newer version of Office also, but I'm not.
How do I get rid of those files. Microsoft Works is installed and has Word
in it. And there's the option to "reinstall Office 2003" still showing. Do
I need to erase the whole thing? Sorry for being a pest, but these are all
my tax returns and financial records! Any further help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Nancy,

Are you using Norton Security/Antivirus on your computer? If so, in the settings you may need to turn off the 'script blocking'
setting to use MS Office Binder 97. It's also possible that a security update for Windows or a setting for Internet Explorer may be
interfering. (Office 97 hasn't, due to its age, been run through formal testing on Windows XP Media Center Edition) and Binder,
discontinued after Office 2000 is 'use as is' at this point. It doesn't always behave well in newer Windows versions. MS ships
(and has available for download) an 'unbind' utility that pulls the various documents in a binder out back into files for their
original Office apps. As you noted there are a lot listings for 'new' sections of file types that Binder doesn't really handle as
well as ones that it does. The scanner choice is dependent on what your scanner software installs as well. Do you have, in Word
97, for example a choice to scan a document?

For MS Office 97 there were three separate releases of that product line, the original, then Office 97 SR1 and then Office 97 SR2.
A release would mean that MS actually changed the CD that would ship with new product after a certain date. A Service Release would
normally incorporate earlier fixes in the SR.

If the front of your CD for Office 97 says "SR1" on it, then you would start your updates with the SR2 download update. If it does
not say SR1 on it then you need to first, be sure that your Office 97 apps are running properly and that the Office 2003 listing is
no longer in Add/Remove Programs in the windows control panel.

Once you have Office 97 working correctly then you would apply the SR1 update, restart the PC, check that everything is working
correctly again, then apply SR2 (SR2b is the same thing), then apply the later updates for both Office97 and the individual apps
that are available through http://office.microsoft.com/downloads

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When you say "then install Office 97 updates beginning with SR-2b", do I
ignore all the updates dated prior to SR-2b - there are 6 or 7 earlier fixes
- and only use updates SR-2b and later? Or do I download all of them? Don't
you just love us "novices?" Thanks for all your help. I'm never upgrading
again
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Nancy P. >>
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Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

 

[Nancy P.]

I don't have Norton's, but McAfee was pre-installed. I have followed all the
steps uninstalling everything Office 2003 (although the task bar still has a
"Reinstall MS Office and MS Works" icon. I had the base Office '97,
downloaded and installed update SR1 and then SR2b. The programs all work
fine - I have the ability to insert a scanned picture into a Word doc on my
old (working) PC, but the option to direct scan isn't there under "Insert
Picture." However, I got the scanner long after I installed word. Binder
scans directly from my Epson on the old system by selecting the "Image Doc"
icon so apparently it added wen I installed the scanner.

My only problem seems to be that the option in Binder to add an "Image Doc"
does not appear ...
1. Should I remove my scanner and software?
2. Then uninstall Office '97, reinstall it and the service packs?
3. Should I reconnect and reinstall my scanner before or after I load
Office '97?
4. System is pre-loadedwith MS Works and Outlook. Should I uninstall all
the MS applications (any specifically?) that were preloaded on the system,
along with the Office 2003 stuff, before doing anything with '97??

The unbind feature doesn't work for image files from a scanner.

Thanks for any additional help you can give me. I would ABSOLUTEY DIE for
the good old DOS days ....

 

[Squeaky]

Hi Nancy,

The program needed to open the image file in the binder should be the Kodak
imager. If it is installed in your computer you will need to reassociate the
..tiff and .tif to it. If not, you can follow the link to an install program
that runs a batch file that will install it for you.
http://www.geocities.com/rubyraj123/scanner.zip
Just follow the instructions. You may need to edit the batch file to point
to your CD-rom as it defaults to the D drive. You also will need to own a
copy of Windows 2000. The other problem I have run into is while a computer
running Windows 2000 can open and input the image file into a binder, XP can
only read the image file already placed in a binder. I have not had any
success using an XP computer in putting an image file in a binder.